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polish_aristocrat 02-02-2007 03:37 PM

GOVERNMENT OF CANADA (!) message regarding .XXX
 
see message here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00558.html


basically they are anti-.xxx since it would require ICANN to play a more direct role in monitoring content and they say ICANN should just concentrate on the technical side of the Web

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

starpimps 02-02-2007 03:44 PM

the Canadian government isafraid that the .xxx will make people move out of our igloos and stop playing hockey

StuartD 02-02-2007 03:47 PM

It's true... they're not the police, and they certainly can't tell everyone in every country what they can and can't do.

Err... shouldn't be able to.

BlackCrayon 02-02-2007 03:47 PM

does anyone want this that doesn't stand to gain financially from it?

starpimps 02-02-2007 03:52 PM

i dont want the .xxx but i dont think the canadian government's opinion really matter a whole lot

germ 02-02-2007 04:03 PM

yeah i dont really see what the canadian government has to do with anything in regards to this issue.

nice of them to comment though.

jact 02-02-2007 04:07 PM

That makes me happy.

_Richard_ 02-02-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 11844063)
yeah i dont really see what the canadian government has to do with anything in regards to this issue.

nice of them to comment though.

just the desperate voice of reason. again. :helpme

R

bogo 02-02-2007 04:13 PM

Fuckin Eh

TheDoc 02-02-2007 04:16 PM

Just shows the Canadian Gov has porn sites! :)

davecummings 02-02-2007 04:22 PM

:-)))

Dave
www.davecummings.com

davecummings 02-02-2007 04:32 PM

Thanks!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11843905)
see message here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00558.html


basically they are anti-.xxx since it would require ICANN to play a more direct role in monitoring content and they say ICANN should just concentrate on the technical side of the Web

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

Thanks for alerting us to this--we appreciate you monitoring the ICANN Forum/Comments and giving us the word:-)).

Dave

free4porn 02-02-2007 04:35 PM

good to have their backing though :)

Martin 02-02-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Sexbankroll (Post 11844123)
just the desperate voice of reason. again. :helpme

R

Indeed.:helpme

tony286 02-02-2007 05:01 PM

More and more I like Canada ,a move and change in citizenship maybe on the horizon.

DamageX 02-02-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 11844291)
Is this the real Dave Cummings ? im a fan lol

It's the real Dave Cummings. :winkwink:

Mark_E4A 02-02-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 11844063)
yeah i dont really see what the canadian government has to do with anything in regards to this issue.

nice of them to comment though.

Well, this not fact, but, IMO our government LOVES our porn, we bring in money from other contries and pay tax. They love the tax money.

Why fuck with something that is paying for their holidays

SleazyDream 02-02-2007 06:15 PM

canada good :thumbsup

Dcat 02-02-2007 07:11 PM

Finally it feels like the Canadian government is on my side. Albeit for alterior motives.

If they want to use a few of my tax dollars to oppose the fleecing of adult webmasters by Stuart Lawley and his band of gready fucks at ICM Registry, so be it.

Fuck .xxx!! :321GFY

davecummings 02-02-2007 08:08 PM

Insurance Against ICANN et al Overlooking THis!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave C.
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: Canada's Government is Also Against .xxx, per http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm-agreement/




COMMENT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA



The Government of Canada thanks ICANN for providing an opportunity to comment on the revised proposed agreement with ICM providing for designation of a .XXX sTLD registry. Canada continues to participate in the ICANN Government Advisory Committee?s discussion of the creation of this new sTLD. However, Canada is concerned with the direction the ICANN process appears to be taking and the possible implication of that direction for the future of the organization and of the Internet itself. The following comments are intended to draw our concerns to the attention of the broader Internet community.



In 2006, in our response to the United States Department of Commerce Notice of Inquiry (NOI), Canada made the following point: ?? it is essential to underscore and to reiterate the narrow technical nature of ICANN?s mandate, as a body responsible for the administration of Internet names and Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. We recognize that these technical issues occasionally give rise to policy considerations. This has led to confusion about ICANN's role and sometimes distracted the organization from its core mandate. Canada is of the view that, going forward, ICANN and its stakeholders should be scrupulous in taking a very narrow view of ICANN's policy functions, ensuring that any policy issues considered arise directly from and/or are inextricably linked to the organization?s core technical functions. Any other policy issues should be referred to other more appropriate bodies.? Our response went on to say: ?In considering the policy-making aspect of ICANN?s role, it is of fundamental importance to make a distinction between broad Internet-related public policy issues such as spam, fraud, child pornography, etc., which are clearly outside ICANN?s mandate, and the more focused policy issues directly related to the technical functioning of the Internet, which are within its mandate.?



We have reviewed the content of the revised proposed agreement with ICM and other materials provided by the company and we are concerned that many terms of the agreement appear to require, permit or encourage ICANN to venture far beyond its core technical functions.[i] Specifically, the proposed agreement appears to give ICANN the right to monitor the fulfilment of ICM?s obligations and policy implementation in areas beyond what might reasonably be considered a technically-focused mandate. Some examples:

· ICANN is given an opportunity to review and negotiate policies[ii] proposed by the Registry Operator or the International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR), many having nothing to do with ICANN?s technical mandate (e.g., promoting child safety and preventing child pornography[iii])



· ICANN is also called upon to approve/disapprove of ICM?s choice of a monitoring agency[iv]



· ICANN (and the GAC) will be called upon to identify names of ?cultural and/or religious significance?[v] as well as ?names of territories, distinct economies, and other geographic and geopolitical names?[vi] to be reserved from use in the .xxx domain.



If ICANN accepts these and other similar conditions in the proposed agreement, it is moving in a very significant way toward taking on an ongoing policy-making and oversight role governing Internet content. There is little doubt that significant public policy issues arise in taking decisions on new gTLDs. The GAC is now in the process of developing ?Principles and Guidelines on Public Policy Issues Regarding the Implementation of New gTLDs? to provide guidance to ICANN on a range of those issues. The Government of Canada considers it inappropriate for ICANN to take on an ongoing role such as the one outlined in the revised proposed agreement with ICM.



Internet content is subject to generally applicable laws in countries where it is available. There have been various instances where national governments have successfully imposed limits on the domestic distribution over the Internet of content found to be in breach of domestic laws. Such content control is controversial in many states and poses many technical and legal challenges. Canada remains of the view that it is not and should not be ICANN?s mandate to set policy related to content or intended to censor, control or interfere with content on the Internet by way of its contracts with TLD operators.



In its discussion of various Internet related policy issues, the GAC and its members have frequently expressed concern about ICANN assuming policy functions which may infringe upon the policy responsibilities of sovereign states. The regulation of Internet content raises precisely this concern. Engaging ICANN in setting policy and supervisory functions related to content is a slippery slope. Once undertaken, the role will surely grow case by case.



ICANN was not conceived to be the global Internet content regulator. It has had some difficulty establishing legitimacy and full acceptance in carrying out its primary function related to managing the domain name system. ICANN?s becoming engaged in content regulation through its contracts with TLDs risks undermining its legitimacy and purpose at a time when these need to be reinforced and strengthened.



The Government of Canada therefore recommends that ICANN should not take upon itself these inappropriate functions. Instead, ICANN should look to alternative measures more appropriate to ICANN?s technical mandate. For example, ICANN could oblige the TLD to require registered sites to apply and maintain current control rating systems that enable filtering by end users who may wish to do so. Other technical solutions are now becoming available that could be required to provide governments or individuals the means to prevent access to sites deemed to be illegal or offensive. Such approaches would empower governments and individual Internet users to determine appropriate content policy as they see fit, without involving ICANN in determining such policy.



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[i] The Government of Canada has not conducted a legal review of the proposed agreement. Comments regarding the proposed agreement are made without prejudice to the intent or effect of the agreement.



The following notes refer to page numbers in the ICANN revised proposed agreement with ICM providing for designation of a .XXX sTLD registry:

[ii] see ?Delegation of Authority,? point 4, page 88.

[iii] see ?Registry Operator?s Commitments,? page 86.

[iv] see ?Engagement and Fostering of Monitoring Agencies,? page 87.

[v] see ?Names with Cultural and/or Religious Significance,? page 73.

[vi] see Geographic and Geopolitical Names,? page 57.

polish_aristocrat 02-03-2007 04:48 AM

Quote:

Insurance Against ICANN et al Overlooking THis!
loool

would be funny if they overlooked it, but I cant imagine that

Kimo 02-03-2007 05:22 AM

canadian ehhhh

polish_aristocrat 02-03-2007 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by germ (Post 11844063)
yeah i dont really see what the canadian government has to do with anything in regards to this issue.

they have

ICANN cares about the governments opinions, they have their GAC -Governmental Advisory Committee and well.... Canada is one of the Governments....

The doubts that GAC expressed last year regarding .xxx were one of the reasons why it was not approved.

Nysus 02-03-2007 08:39 AM

"For example, ICANN could oblige the TLD to require registered sites to apply and maintain current control rating systems that enable filtering by end users who may wish to do so."

That's an example of what the GAC suggests they do.. it's what I said and many others have proposed. That is the best way, the only way really.

polish_aristocrat 02-05-2007 04:01 PM

:winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by davecummings (Post 11844242)
Thanks for alerting us to this--we appreciate you monitoring the ICANN Forum/Comments and giving us the word:-)).

Dave

no problem

DaddyHalbucks 02-05-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11843905)
see message here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00558.html


basically they are anti-.xxx since it would require ICANN to play a more direct role in monitoring content and they say ICANN should just concentrate on the technical side of the Web

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

A very good argument.

Webby 02-05-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11843905)
see message here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-icm.../msg00558.html


basically they are anti-.xxx since it would require ICANN to play a more direct role in monitoring content and they say ICANN should just concentrate on the technical side of the Web

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

Gotta rush and not got time to pull up the URL's, but there are a few Euro countries with the same opinions :thumbsup

Huggles 02-05-2007 04:26 PM

The internet is still so, so primative

Hazlewood 02-05-2007 04:29 PM

Steven Harper Is A Fuck Head And So Who The Whole Conservative Party...he Is On His Hands And Knees With George W.'s Cock In His Mouth

_Richard_ 02-05-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazlewood (Post 11865973)
Steven Harper Is A Fuck Head And So Who The Whole Conservative Party...he Is On His Hands And Knees With George W.'s Cock In His Mouth

a constructive, clear and legitimate opinion. Thanks!

R

spider_x 02-05-2007 04:41 PM

"basically they are anti-.xxx since it would require ICANN to play a more direct role in monitoring content and they say ICANN should just concentrate on the technical side of the Web"

Mad props to the Canucks for exhibiting one grain of common sense!

spider_x 02-05-2007 04:42 PM

Looks like ICANN is being influenced by some underground fuckers just like the UN. Hopefully the corruption can be exposed to the public.

spider_x 02-05-2007 04:44 PM

There's going to be tons more of retarded crap like this in the US, as politicians scramble to divert attention away from the war in middle east

s9ann0 02-05-2007 04:46 PM

well done canadians

great 05-02-2007 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_E4A (Post 11844763)
Well, this not fact, but, IMO our government LOVES our porn, we bring in money from other contries and pay tax. They love the tax money.

Why fuck with something that is paying for their holidays

I think that any government loves tax money why don't they? So....in my opinion.....all governments will love porn as long as they will bring them money. :thumbsup

Massage Parlor 06-18-2007 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by great (Post 12350156)
I think that any government loves tax money why don't they? So....in my opinion.....all governments will love porn as long as they will bring them money. :thumbsup

All the governments love porn. They make a lot of money out of it, but mostly they like escorts agencies because they are discrete and they keep a very good silence on it. Porn pays not only their holidays, but their cars and their children and wives' cars. They get a good deal of living out of it. :pimp

Michaelious 06-18-2007 08:52 AM

As long as they get money or taxes they won't care lol

latin gay porn 06-18-2007 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michaelious (Post 12617578)
As long as they get money or taxes they won't care lol

Good point! They are neither priests nor saints. The only religion they have is the money religion!

tranza 06-18-2007 01:07 PM

That's good news I guess....


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