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Rodent 02-01-2007 03:41 PM

65yr old kills attacking pit bull lol
 
That dog was weak or this old man had some nuts on him.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=4988044

Waveu6410 02-01-2007 03:47 PM

I would had my wife get me a knife and then I would have stabbed that fucker to death!

That old guy is lucky!

Chichio 02-01-2007 03:50 PM

I think if you really wanted to, you could kill a dog. I know their jaws are very strong but if you went for the neck to either choke or break it, most men could win that fight.

jacked 02-01-2007 03:51 PM

atleast he did the right thing if he didn't kick that pit in the stomach it probably wouldn't have let go and given him the chance to get his hand out of it's jaws.

he got lucky thats for sure

dig420 02-01-2007 03:51 PM

Neither one, in the Fark thread someone from the neighborhood told the true story. The old man was a prick who thought he ran the neighborhood, he grabbed up someone's dog (not a pit) which was running loose, and the dog bit him on the finger when he grabbed it's collar and he went apeshit.

Reporters will stretch the truth completely out of recognition if they can find a way to fit the words 'Pit Bull' in the headline.

dig420 02-01-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chichio (Post 11835991)
I think if you really wanted to, you could kill a dog. I know their jaws are very strong but if you went for the neck to either choke or break it, most men could win that fight.

Joe Hurley is a UFC fighter who got attacked and ripped up by a Pit. The dog went thru him like wet tissue paper. No man beats a Pit or any large dog in hand to hand combat, although I'm sure there will be at least ten rambos in this thread who will claim they have. The only chance you have is if it has a collar on and you can hold him down.

WarChild 02-01-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chichio (Post 11835991)
I think if you really wanted to, you could kill a dog. I know their jaws are very strong but if you went for the neck to either choke or break it, most men could win that fight.

A dogs skull is much thicker than a human. Punching a dog in the head would result in breaking your hand long before hurting the dog.

A dog can move much, much, much faster than you can. It's said for every one action you take, for instance kicking, a dog can bite you between 5 and 10 times.

A large dog like Sheppard, Rottweiler or Doberman has so much strength in it's jaw you would never be able to pry it off you.

A dog can turn it's head and neck 180 degrees to bite you.

Once in a blue man a man will come out on top against a large dog, but 99.9% of the time an unarmed man will be no match for a large dog attack.

I actually have a friend that trains Sheppards for the Police in the states. He'll let anyone take a shot at a dog anytime they want. To date nobody has ever tried without padding and nobody has ever come out on top.

WarChild 02-01-2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11836013)
Joe Hurley is a UFC fighter who got attacked and ripped up by a Pit. The dog went thru him like wet tissue paper. No man beats a Pit or any large dog in hand to hand combat, although I'm sure there will be at least ten rambos in this thread who will claim they have. The only chance you have is if it has a collar on and you can hold him down.

You actually CAN rear naked choke a dog, the problem of course is getting in position behind it. Impossible against a dog facing you. The only time it's really useful is to pull a dog off another person.

Phoenix 02-01-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11836013)
Joe Hurley is a UFC fighter who got attacked and ripped up by a Pit. The dog went thru him like wet tissue paper. No man beats a Pit or any large dog in hand to hand combat, although I'm sure there will be at least ten rambos in this thread who will claim they have. The only chance you have is if it has a collar on and you can hold him down.


actually beating a dog is fairly easy.
you just have to know how to do it.

most dogs are jumpers and will go for something high...your face neck etc...if it is really on..and when a dog launches at you it is....you give up your arm..and let them bite it.

as they sink their teeth in you make sure you get really close to them and bring up your knee...as you hit the ground you should be smashing your knee right through their chest....dogs are weak..any grown male can do this.

they dog will be dead on the spot and you will have some bite marks on your arm...but you will not be dead...and your arm will not be ripped to shreds

practice it in your mind a few times and you will be ready should it ever happen

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836050)
actually beating a dog is fairly easy.
you just have to know how to do it.

most dogs are jumpers and will go for something high...your face neck etc...if it is really on..and when a dog launches at you it is....you give up your arm..and let them bite it.

as they sink their teeth in you make sure you get really close to them and bring up your knee...as you hit the ground you should be smashing your knee right through their chest....dogs are weak..any grown male can do this.

they dog will be dead on the spot and you will have some bite marks on your arm...but you will not be dead...and your arm will not be ripped to shreds

practice it in your mind a few times and you will be ready should it ever happen

I always thought you were a fucking idiot and this just absolutely confirms it. Great laugh.

dig420 02-01-2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836050)
actually beating a dog is fairly easy.
you just have to know how to do it.

most dogs are jumpers and will go for something high...your face neck etc...if it is really on..and when a dog launches at you it is....you give up your arm..and let them bite it.

as they sink their teeth in you make sure you get really close to them and bring up your knee...as you hit the ground you should be smashing your knee right through their chest....dogs are weak..any grown male can do this.

they dog will be dead on the spot and you will have some bite marks on your arm...but you will not be dead...and your arm will not be ripped to shreds

practice it in your mind a few times and you will be ready should it ever happen

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHEHEHEHE HEHEHEHEH!!!!!!!

whoo**

thanks

dig420 02-01-2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836050)
actually beating a dog is fairly easy.
you just have to know how to do it.

most dogs are jumpers and will go for something high...your face neck etc...if it is really on..and when a dog launches at you it is....you give up your arm..and let them bite it.

as they sink their teeth in you make sure you get really close to them and bring up your knee...as you hit the ground you should be smashing your knee right through their chest....dogs are weak..any grown male can do this.

they dog will be dead on the spot and you will have some bite marks on your arm...but you will not be dead...and your arm will not be ripped to shreds

practice it in your mind a few times and you will be ready should it ever happen

would you agree with me that Bruce Lee is the toughest ninja who ever lived?

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11836079)
would you agree with me that Bruce Lee is the toughest ninja who ever lived?

in the movies fo sho

Furious_Male 02-01-2007 04:07 PM

I have to disagree with those that say a man has no chance against a dog. The only reason that would be is if the dog hit a major artery (or got you by the throat) right away. Fear is what kicks mans ass in those situations.

A full grown man that keeps his head can take on any dog. Poke its eyes out, crush its wind pipe etc.

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11836079)
would you agree with me that Bruce Lee is the toughest ninja who ever lived?

i grew up around very large german shepherds....we bred them

most went to police schols or army schools.

this is something i heard long ago from one of those people.

the dog is coming you have little choice...you cant talk your way out of it.

if you ever find yourself in the position...i hope you remember this thread:)

SomeCreep 02-01-2007 04:10 PM

People panic when getting bitten, but all you have to do is rip the dogs eyes out, while it is biting you. It will quickly let go, cry, and run away.

RyuLion 02-01-2007 04:10 PM

Good thing for the old man..using a door is a good idea..
and a knee is a good idea too..

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 11836094)
I have to disagree with those that say a man has no chance against a dog. The only reason that would be is if the dog hit a major artery (or got you by the throat) right away. Fear is what kicks mans ass in those situations.

A full grown man that keeps his head can take on any dog. Poke its eyes out, crush its wind pipe etc.

Really, no you can't. I don't think you have any idea how fast an actual attacking dog is and how high a tolerance for pain they have. Proffesional dog trainers would disagree with you.

Kard63 02-01-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodent (Post 11835942)
That dog was weak or this old man had some nuts on him.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=4988044


65lbs is a pretty small one. It wouldnt be easy but it could be done.

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11836123)
Really, no you can't. I don't think you have any idea how fast an actual attacking dog is and how high a tolerance for pain they have. Proffesional dog trainers would disagree with you.

there is only one reason we domesticated the dog..we are better

it is just a scary concept...that is a fight to the death right away :(

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836099)
i grew up around very large german shepherds....we bred them

most went to police schols or army schools.

this is something i heard long ago from one of those people.

the dog is coming you have little choice...you cant talk your way out of it.

if you ever find yourself in the position...i hope you remember this thread:)

I have a 140 pound Rottweiler who is as tall as me when he stands on his back feet. If he pounced on you, there's next to no way you'd be able to brace yourself against that weight, you would be going down.

As for offering your arm up, there's no guarantee a dog will take that bait. Police dogs, for isntance, are trained not to. Police dogs actually are taught more to fight than just attack. If you for instance start punching them with one hand, they will release their grip on whatever they have and attack the hand you are trying to hit them with.

Further more, a large domestic dog can have some 320+ pounds of biting force. That's enough to crush most people's fore arms.

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11836058)
I always thought you were a fucking idiot and this just absolutely confirms it. Great laugh.

you must live in fear of your dog


that is sad...wait i bet you have a pit bull right?

tell me im wrong..lol

typical

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836099)
i grew up around very large german shepherds....we bred them

most went to police schols or army schools.

this is something i heard long ago from one of those people.

the dog is coming you have little choice...you cant talk your way out of it.

if you ever find yourself in the position...i hope you remember this thread:)

I have a 140 pound Rottweiler who is as tall as me when he stands on his back feet. If he pounced on you, there's next to no way you'd be able to brace yourself against that weight, you would be going down.

As for offering your arm up, there's no guarantee a dog will take that bait. Police dogs, for isntance, are trained not to. Police dogs actually are taught more to fight than just attack. If you for instance start punching them with one hand, they will release their grip on whatever they have and attack the hand you are trying to hit them with.

Further more, a large domestic dog can have some 320+ pounds of biting force. That's enough to crush most people's fore arms.

Furious_Male 02-01-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11836123)
Really, no you can't. I don't think you have any idea how fast an actual attacking dog is and how high a tolerance for pain they have. Proffesional dog trainers would disagree with you.

I raise rotts I am familiar with powerful dogs. No problem with the difference of opinion.

Regardless if I am attacked by a dog it won't kill me. I can assure you of that.

Furious_Male 02-01-2007 04:16 PM

And a foot note. Paper shredders are a great weapon ;)

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836146)
you must live in fear of your dog


that is sad...wait i bet you have a pit bull right?

tell me im wrong..lol

typical

No, I have 3 Rottweilers and I've worked with many German and Belgium Sheppards that have been trained for police duty.

I don't live in fear of my dogs at all. My dogs are well adjusted, nice animals that are not going to just attack somebody randomly.

I do have a healthy respect for what they can do, having tried to break up a fight between two smaller female rottweilers and ending up with my hand burried in one of their jaws.

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 11836151)
I raise rotts I am familiar with powerful dogs. No problem with the difference of opinion.

Regardless if I am attacked by a dog it won't kill me. I can assure you of that.

Oh, I'm not saying dogs are perfect predators that men must fear. There's plenty of ways to diffuse or avoid a dog attack in the first place. On top of that, if you can get ahold of a weapon of some sort, then you have a much better chance.

I'm just saying in a straight up one on one fight with a large dog, your odds are very, very poor.

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11836147)
I have a 140 pound Rottweiler who is as tall as me when he stands on his back feet. If he pounced on you, there's next to no way you'd be able to brace yourself against that weight, you would be going down.

As for offering your arm up, there's no guarantee a dog will take that bait. Police dogs, for isntance, are trained not to. Police dogs actually are taught more to fight than just attack. If you for instance start punching them with one hand, they will release their grip on whatever they have and attack the hand you are trying to hit them with.

Further more, a large domestic dog can have some 320+ pounds of biting force. That's enough to crush most people's fore arms.


the lie down and die....it will save the world from your cynicism

notice i said as you are going to the ground?

you need to be prepared for it...and make it happen...as you go down you knee goes into their gut, preferably upper rib cage...you land on top of the dog and it should be ok.

im not claiming this is easy...but seems better then your advice so far..i mean arent you some kind of ninja...you and dig420 are superstar fighters, you claim it a million times a day on the board...but you have no advice for how to stop an attacking dog?

Phoenix 02-01-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11836172)
I'm just saying in a straight up one on one fight with a large dog, your odds are very, very poor.

agreed..that was never up in the air..dogs are dangerous

for some odd reason when people call me an idiot..i take offence to it

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836190)
the lie down and die....it will save the world from your cynicism

notice i said as you are going to the ground?

you need to be prepared for it...and make it happen...as you go down you knee goes into their gut, preferably upper rib cage...you land on top of the dog and it should be ok.

im not claiming this is easy...but seems better then your advice so far..i mean arent you some kind of ninja...you and dig420 are superstar fighters, you claim it a million times a day on the board...but you have no advice for how to stop an attacking dog?

I think I've made maybe less than a dozen posts about fight training. I'm no ninja, but I do train pretty much 6 days a week with weights, cardio and varius martial arts.

I'm not saying it's impossible to do what you're saying, I'm just saying it's very unlikely you're be able to do it. That's the reality of it.

I never used to think a dog would be that tough, having rough housed with large dogs an awful lot. That is until I actually worked with some dogs being trained for the police. Even a Belgium Sheppard, no more than 70 pounds is a fearsome opponent and a large German Sheppard or Rottweiler is just a nightmare. The speed a dog moves at when it's actualy attacking is so more more freightening than when a dog plays. You really have to experience it to appreciate the different.

If you're involved in a large dog attack, there are some things you can do. Try to stay upright and use your height as an advantage. If you have or can get a stick, briefcase, or anything of that nature position it between yourself and the dog, If at all possible, retreat into, behind, on top of or under something. If the dog gets a hold of you, gouging for the eyes and punching or kicking behind the rib cage, between the back legs may be able to produce some damage but in reality you're in a tough situation.

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 11836230)
agreed..that was never up in the air..dogs are dangerous

for some odd reason when people call me an idiot..i take offence to it

Okay, I'm sorry cupcake. All better? :upsidedow

L-Pink 02-01-2007 04:34 PM

Your average guy (everyone here) is pretty much fucked against a large well trained or abused until it's crazy dog.

WarChild 02-01-2007 04:45 PM

Here's a cool video showing a bite force test done with a Rottweiler, German Sheppard and a Pittbull. The Rottweiler comes out as the strongest, by far. Bear in mind these dogs are trained to bite and hold on to protective gear on the arm and not try to kill you.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=R7jhrxy0HKs

uvort 02-01-2007 04:46 PM

Old man - 1
Dog - 0

dig420 02-01-2007 05:14 PM

Did no one pay attention when I told you Joe Hurley got fucked up like he was NOTHING by a Pit?

Phoenix I hate to disabuse you of your Kung Fu fantasies. If a large fighting dog attacks you with the intent to kill you and you have no weapons and nowhere to hide, you're going to DIE. Period.

Even Ninjas.

Paraskass 02-01-2007 05:14 PM

I heard that if a dog is attacking you and has a grip on you, the best thing to do is stick your finger in it's ass. He will then release you.

FelixFlow 02-01-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraskass (Post 11836483)
I heard that if a dog is attacking you and has a grip on you, the best thing to do is stick your finger in it's ass. He will then release you.


hahahhahaha


:1orglaugh

wyldblyss 02-01-2007 06:27 PM

Hey, when your adrenaline is flowing you are capable of a hell of a lot of things you normally wouldn't be able to do

WarChild 02-01-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 11836959)
Hey, when your adrenaline is flowing you are capable of a hell of a lot of things you normally wouldn't be able to do

Yes but the laws of Physics still hold.


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