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aico 01-30-2007 07:11 PM

U.S. Gov't "Filters" Global Warming information
 
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...At the House hearing, two private advocacy groups produced a survey of 279 government climate scientists showing that many of them say they have been subjected to political pressure aimed at downplaying the climate threat. Their complaints ranged from a challenge to using the phrase "global warming" to raising uncertainty on issues on which most scientists basically agree, to keeping scientists from talking to the media...

...Prior to the change, interview requests of climate scientists frequently were "routed through the White House" and then turned away or delayed, said Shindell. He described how a news release on his study forecasting a significant warming in Antarctica was "repeatedly delayed, altered and watered down" at the insistence of the White House...

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 07:15 PM

I wish they would fix this shit. Its 14F in Nashville tonight. DAMN YOU GLOBAL WAR... Climate chan... err Green hous..... err Coming Ice ag.... :disgust

aico 01-30-2007 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822423)
I wish they would fix this shit. Its 14F in Nashville tonight. DAMN YOU GLOBAL WAR... Climate chan... err Green hous..... err Coming Ice ag.... :disgust

Says the idiot who doesn't know 5th grade science & geography.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822440)
Says the idiot who doesn't know 5th grade science & geography.

How could I know? I never bought a Mac... :Oh crap

aico 01-30-2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822464)
How could I know? I never bought a Mac... :Oh crap

ya, well with intelligence comes the ability to make enough money to afford one.

I am sure once you get a real job making real videos, you'll get a Mac.

madawgz 01-30-2007 07:32 PM

why am i not surprised....

Narfle 01-30-2007 07:33 PM

Ofcource they filter the information, look at the bulk of USAs population.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822505)
ya, well with intelligence comes the ability to make enough money to afford one.

I am sure once you get a real job making real videos, you'll get a Mac.

lol you kill me. As Im sitting looking at my dual monitor 22" widescreen monitors and 9 e6600 intel duo core machines each with 4GB of ram, my laptop, dvd duplicators, and nearly 8TB of storage, I wonder if I could scrape up some money to buy a macbook so I could be all 133t an shit. :uhoh

Fap 01-30-2007 07:39 PM

I actually just watched Al gore's inconvienent truth. Anyone else see it?

Webby 01-30-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822398)
Link to Article

...At the House hearing, two private advocacy groups produced a survey of 279 government climate scientists showing that many of them say they have been subjected to political pressure aimed at downplaying the climate threat. Their complaints ranged from a challenge to using the phrase "global warming" to raising uncertainty on issues on which most scientists basically agree, to keeping scientists from talking to the media...

...Prior to the change, interview requests of climate scientists frequently were "routed through the White House" and then turned away or delayed, said Shindell. He described how a news release on his study forecasting a significant warming in Antarctica was "repeatedly delayed, altered and watered down" at the insistence of the White House...

Can't say anything about "filtering" aico, but it is clear the US admin have adopted the "it's impossible - it doesn't exist - it's a left wing conspiracy - any excuse of the day" type bullshit while the rest of the world are well-aware and on initial stages of doing something about it.

That same "policy" has been spread by the admin spokesman - that alleged news channel, Fox (where each "newscaster" is a "personality" and an unqualified opinion on every subject under the sun) - the bullshit they spew on "global warming" is laughable, but chances are many actually believe it - as you can see from this thread.

The reasons are obvious - possible threats to the economy etc if any attempts to cut down emissions were enforced. But.. the cost will be enforced in the end out of necessity and little surprise there is more attention - the sooner that starts and is sustained, the cost will probably be less in the end.

aico 01-30-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822535)
lol you kill me. As Im sitting looking at my dual monitor 22" widescreen monitors and 9 e6600 intel duo core machines each with 4GB of ram, my laptop, dvd duplicators, and nearly 8TB of storage, I wonder if I could scrape up some money to buy a macbook so I could be all 133t an shit. :uhoh

Ask your mommy & daddy for more money, maybe you can get one then.

All that equpiment and you still suck at what you do, must be frustrating.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822563)
Ask your mommy & daddy for more money, maybe you can get one then.

All that equpiment and you still suck at what you do, must be frustrating.

haha boy you are really hurting.... Im hurt...... :( :1orglaugh alotofego.com available? Let me know if you need more thai content by the way I can hook you up with that.

Splum 01-30-2007 08:09 PM

http://hybridd.richjerk.hop.clickbank.net/ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Brad Mitchell 01-30-2007 08:27 PM

Haven't you all seen the cult movie "They Live"

CONSUME!

:)
Brad

aico 01-30-2007 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822640)
haha boy you are really hurting.... Im hurt...... :( :1orglaugh alotofego.com available? Let me know if you need more thai content by the way I can hook you up with that.

No, I pretty much got the Thai content covered, thanks, I just log into Brad's server and take what I need. Wait??? Are you the guy who completely fucked up all his new videos??? LMAO is that you?

Brad Mitchell 01-30-2007 08:28 PM

Haven't you all seen the cult movie "They Live"

CONSUME!

:)
Brad

aico 01-30-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11822709)
http://hybridd.richjerk.hop.clickbank.net/ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'm glad you get the joke. :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822789)
No, I pretty much got the Thai content covered, thanks, I just log into Brad's server and take what I need. Wait??? Are you the guy who completely fucked up all his new videos??? LMAO is that you?

Ya I know who you are Jim.

http://www.asianxxxcontent.com/MacsSuckCock.txt

aico 01-30-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822952)

LOL, nice work. I am sure Brad will appreciate you using his server like that. Not that he'll ever notice in that cluster fuck of a server he has.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822963)
LOL, nice work. I am sure Brad will appreciate you using his server like that.

Want me to ask him? We are talking as we speak.

Splum 01-30-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822799)
I'm glad you get the joke. :thumbsup

You and people like you are the joke. :2 cents:

aico 01-30-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11822979)
You and people like you are the joke. :2 cents:

You obviously miscalculated the part about me carrying what the fuck you say or think.

aico 01-30-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11822970)
Want me to ask him? We are talking as we speak.

Ya, tell him to ICQ me.

Splum 01-30-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822988)
You obviously miscalculated the part about me carrying what the fuck you say or think.

Thanks for the reply.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11822994)
Ya, tell him to ICQ me.

Im sure you have his icq.

Webby 01-30-2007 09:14 PM

Dammit.. this thread has deteriorated into a swamp aico :winkwink:

As expected the usual mosquitos gather to expound their views on... well... nothing :1orglaugh

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823049)
Dammit.. this thread has deteriorated into a swamp aico :winkwink:

As expected the usual mosquitos gather to expound their views on... well... nothing :1orglaugh


You thought we were all going to come to some breakthrough about Global environmental greenhouse effected climate change modern day ice age theory?

Webby 01-30-2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11823073)
You thought we were all going to come to some breakthrough about Global environmental greenhouse effected climate change modern day ice age theory?

Not exactly - can't expect too much from mosquitos and that prediction was a sure bet :pimp

aico 01-30-2007 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823049)
Dammit.. this thread has deteriorated into a swamp aico :winkwink:

As expected the usual mosquitos gather to expound their views on... well... nothing :1orglaugh

Ya, Sticky likes to hijack my threads with Mac and Coffee hatred. Oh well.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11823124)
Ya, Sticky likes to hijack my threads with Mac and Coffee hatred. Oh well.

Mmmm coffee lol mmm mac

http://static.flickr.com/27/35938050_b0d82fe2d7.jpg

Nookster 01-30-2007 09:39 PM

Lol
The Sky Is Falling!!!

Webby 01-30-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11823124)
Ya, Sticky likes to hijack my threads with Mac and Coffee hatred. Oh well.

He obviously has a "need" or motivation :winkwink: Being an expert on "global warming" and all related subjects, he prob couldn't resist contributing :pimp



PS You had two motivating keywords/phrases in the thread title to attract skeeters - "global warming" and "US govt" - either one would do, but both are irresistable to em *LOL*

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823155)
He obviously has a "need" or motivation :winkwink: Being an expert on "global warming" and all related subjects, he prob couldn't resist contributing :pimp



PS You had two motivating keywords/phrases in the thread title to attract skeeters - "global warming" and "US govt" - either one would do, but both are irresistable to em *LOL*

again most of my motivation to get in these threads at the moment is to get to 10k quickly, then I can go back to a normal posting rate. :winkwink:

Webby 01-30-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11823174)
again most of my motivation to get in these threads at the moment is to get to 10k quickly, then I can go back to a normal posting rate. :winkwink:

I see.. so you admit to being a sig whore with nothing to offer and screwing up threads to achieve this?? Nice...

Sad what some folks need to do to earn a living eh?

Splum 01-30-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823155)
PS You had two motivating keywords/phrases in the thread title to attract skeeters - "global warming" and "US govt" - either one would do, but both are irresistable to em *LOL*

Why do you budy up with another liberal in every thread like some little gay fag boy?

*Webby imitation*
Oh my dear "liberal name here" dont you understand when the neo-cons are attracted to a thread? I guess they dont know our secret handshake do they "liberal name here". *rub rub nudge nudge wink wink*


Blech you make me puke.

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823190)
I see.. so you admit to being a sig whore with nothing to offer and screwing up threads to achieve this?? Nice...

Sad what some folks need to do to earn a living eh?

Hmm since I own all the companies in my sig...... :uhoh lol I just want my 10k. Then I can change my user title to Webby go fuck a goat... Thats really my only goal in life... Im joking around with you btw you ex UK monkey chasing costa rica living lefty... :winkwink:

Splum 01-30-2007 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11823190)
Sad what some folks need to do to earn a living eh?

Yeah like clean your hut for $10 a month, that is what you pay your Costa Rican maid isnt it?

stickyfingerz 01-30-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11823202)
Why do you budy up with another liberal in every thread like some little gay fag boy?

*Webby imitation*
Oh my dear "liberal name here" dont you understand when the neo-cons are attracted to a thread? I guess they dont know our secret handshake do they "liberal name here". *rub rub nudge nudge wink wink*


Blech you make me puke.

You could probably write up a little automated script and nail that using that formula. :winkwink:

Webby 01-30-2007 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11823202)
Why do you budy up with another liberal in every thread like some little gay fag boy?

*Webby imitation*
Oh my dear "liberal name here" dont you understand when the neo-cons are attracted to a thread? I guess they dont know our secret handshake do they "liberal name here". *rub rub nudge nudge wink wink*


Blech you make me puke.

Liberals? Gays? Neo-Cons? Are you confused Splum and have some conspiracy theory going?? Puke more and let the hatred spew out my man - it's healthy :1orglaugh

Webby 01-30-2007 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11823206)
Hmm since I own all the companies in my sig...... :uhoh lol I just want my 10k. Then I can change my user title to Webby go fuck a goat... Thats really my only goal in life... Im joking around with you btw you ex UK monkey chasing costa rica living lefty... :winkwink:

So.. OK.. same thing, basically multiple-posting to attract business - we all have to do something I suppose :winkwink:

Na.. I'm on a mission to care for depressed monkey's in Costa Rica. Found the most successful cure is showing em foxnews for an hour a day - it keeps them rolling around laughing for the next 24 hours :pimp

Webby 01-30-2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11823207)
Yeah like clean your hut for $10 a month, that is what you pay your Costa Rican maid isnt it?

Mmmm... let's see. No. Why would you assume so much?? But I'll let the maid know a sicko gringo is concerned about her welfare - that should keep her laughing for a few hours :1orglaugh

WhiplashDug 01-30-2007 10:11 PM

Global Warming? I seem to recall these same people said the ice age was coming about 15 years ago. First it was a global ice age - cause the CO2 was blocking out the sun and cooling the earth - but when that fell apart.. mysteriously Global Warming popped up... hmmm

It's obviouos that the earth is warming! YEAH! a revelation! But, it seems to do that on its own at regular intervals. And - while the current average temperature is HIGHER than the overall average, its still lower than its peak.

And yes while parts of the polar caps are shrinking (something one would think normal in between ice ages as we are near the middle) other parts of those same caps are increasing.

As for the FED not wanting infomation about Global warming/cooling being fed to the populous.. well what would you expect? They don't want you to know either way. THEY ALL LOOSE either way... A) big business (as you say) looses cause of tightened restrictions - profits decrease with expenses.. ok i get that. B) what about the special interest groups and thousands of environental study groups raking in billions of dollars a year? what happens to that lobby (every bit as powerful as big business by the way) if a so called solution is reached on global warming?

As for CO2 emmissions.. one thing is certain. They are increasing. But, overall the CO2 levels on earth have been decreasing for quitre some time. Thus - the cooling periods the earth has passed threw. Anyone know the COs levels during the dinosaur period?

But, is CO2 a bad thing? From everything I've read, seen, heard during the time of the dinosaur - the earth was covered in vegitation, animal life was abundant and food for all beings was pleantiful. Perhaps the decrrease in global vegitation is do to TOO much OXYGEN?

Perhaps the next theory - will be that the earth isn't making enough CO2 - so we need to invent ways to man make more CO2. That will get the money flowing into the science community wont it?

Thing is - no one - not the GLOBAL WARMING community nor the NOT GLOBAL WARMING communtiy really knows anything for ceertain. ALL their theories are will - just theories. No one has proven anything yet. So, since I, like (probably all of) you am not a climatologist, I will hold off judgement on which side is right, untuil one side or the other provides indisputable evidence.

Webby 01-30-2007 10:12 PM

Enough skeeter crap - I'm out of this stupid thread ;-)

aico 01-30-2007 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11823202)
Why do you budy up with another liberal in every thread like some little gay fag boy?

Why do you care so much what other people think? Are you incapable of thinking for yourself? Does it bother you when someone has a different view then you? Do you feel threatened because you are so weak minded?

You're like a scared little doggy, bark bark bark... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

aico 01-30-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 11823293)
Global Warming? I seem to recall these same people said the ice age was coming about 15 years ago. First it was a global ice age - cause the CO2 was blocking out the sun and cooling the earth - but when that fell apart.. mysteriously Global Warming popped up... hmmm

It's obviouos that the earth is warming! YEAH! a revelation! But, it seems to do that on its own at regular intervals. And - while the current average temperature is HIGHER than the average, its still lower than its peak.

And yes while parts of the polar caps are shrinking (something one would think normal in between ice ages as we are near the middle) other parts of those same caps are increasing.

As for the FED not wanting infomation about Global warming/cooling being fed to the populous.. well what would you expect? They don't want you to know either way. THEY ALL LOOSE either way... A) big business (as you say) looses cause of tightened restrictions - profits decrease with expenses.. ok i get that. B) what about the special interest groups and thousands of environental study groups raking in billions of dollars a year? what happens to that lobby (every bit as powerful as big business by the way) if a so called solution is reached on global warming?

As for CO2 emmissions.. one thing is certain. They are increasing. But, overall the CO2 levels on earth have been decreasing for quitre some time. Thus - the cooling periods the earth has passed threw. Anyone know the COs levels during the dinosaur period?

But, is CO2 a bad thing? From everything I've read, seen, heard during the time of the dinosaur - the earth was covered in vegitation, animal life was abundant and food for all beings was pleantiful. Perhaps the decrrease in global vegitation is do to TOO much CO2?

Perhaps the next theory - will be that the earth isn't making enough CO2 - so we need to invent ways to man make more CO2. That will get the money flowing into the science community wont it?

Thing is - no one - not the GLOBAL WARMING community nor the NOT GLOBAL WARMING communtiy really knows anything for ceertain. ALL their theories are will - just theories. No one has proven anything yet. So, since I, like (probably all of) you am not a climatologist, I will hold off judgement on which side is right, untuil one side or the other provides indisputable evidence.

Ok, for those who are obviously incapable of reading, this thread is not about whether Global Warming exists or not, it's about how the Gov't is putting pressure on scientists to change their findings.

Well the first part of it anyway, then it kind gets into Mac & Coffee vs. 9 PCs & 8TB of storage, while migrating into Thai content and server access.

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE 01-30-2007 10:17 PM

In all fairness, it is only logical that it is filtered. Bad news is bad for the economy. Hell, if the US Gov't thought they could have gotten away with denying the 9/11/2001 attacks on the WTC, I'm sure they would have.

Webby 01-30-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11823313)
Ok, for those who are obviously incapable of reading .........

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sheesh.. GFY can be funny *lol*

WhiplashDug 01-30-2007 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11823313)
Ok, for those who are obviously incapable of reading, this thread is not about whether Global Warming exists or not, it's about how the Gov't is putting pressure on scientists to change their findings.

Well the first part of it anyway, then it kind gets into Mac & Coffee vs. 9 PCs & 8TB of storage, while migrating into Thai content and server access.



Understood. However - my point was - that both sides are of the same goal. Neither wants a solution. The governement (depending on what committee) is surpressing findings on ALL SIDES. The rest of my ramblings, dealt with the whole concept of global climate change.. and that NEITHER SIDE has a clue!

Splum 01-30-2007 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico (Post 11823300)
Why do you care so much what other people think? Are you incapable of thinking for yourself? Does it bother you when someone has a different view then you? Do you feel threatened because you are so weak minded?

The only thing I care about is my country, and people like you are ruining it, so anytime I get a chance to stomp all over people like you I take it. You want to hate America? Ill give you something to hate.

aico 01-30-2007 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11823346)
The only thing I care about is my country, and people like you are ruining it, so anytime I get a chance to stomp all over people like you I take it. You want to hate America? Ill give you something to hate.

The day you can stomp on me is the day my dead body has rotted and the dirt I became has been spread in your pretty flower garden.

BTW it's not YOUR country.


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