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Myst 01-29-2007 06:30 PM

Does AWE pay revshare only?
 
How do you guys tend to do with them?

StarkReality 01-29-2007 06:48 PM

They have PPS, but I don't use it for several reasons:

1. You are instantly hated by all other affiliates, since a user who once signed up via PPS is out for lifetime, noone will ever be able to earn a cent with that users, neither PPS, nor revshare. Revshare uses a 2 week cookie, after that time the user is back in the pool.

2. Only users that never signed up via revshare will be paid in the PPS, and since Livejasmin is around for a long time, ratios are better with revshare since people often already have an account and re-activate it.

3. You rarely catch a whale, but those few heavy users make up for those only spending a few bucks once, my average per signup is more than PPS payout.

Myst 01-29-2007 06:57 PM

two weeks seems like a really short time..
and what does it mean by 'pool'? if you get a signup.. isnt that signup yours? how (and why) would that revenue generated by that signup go to another affiliate?

Myst 01-29-2007 07:32 PM

two weeks seems like a really short time..
and what does it mean by 'pool'? if you get a signup.. isnt that signup yours? how (and why) would that revenue generated by that signup go to another affiliate?

Myst 01-29-2007 08:36 PM

two weeks seems like a really short time..
and what does it mean by 'pool'? if you get a signup.. isnt that signup yours? how (and why) would that revenue generated by that signup go to another affiliate?

TheSenator 01-29-2007 08:39 PM

AWE is a 14 day rev share.... Go with a program that has rev share for life.
Like MOOCASH with 35%

My sig don't lie.

Valoon 01-30-2007 04:02 PM

WildCamCash offer 40% revshare LIFETIME ! and upto 150 PPS

I NEED REFS !

Juilan 01-30-2007 04:05 PM

Go with the AWE revshare, after sending 5-10K from a known traffic source of yours, you'll know.

x_hammer_x 02-11-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valoon (Post 11821240)
WildCamCash offer 40% revshare LIFETIME ! and upto 150 PPS

I NEED REFS !

so have you tried them?

Jace 02-11-2007 08:37 AM

hold up, so with awe revshare, you ONLY get paid for 14 days from that user?

so, if they continue buying minutes for 8 months off your referral, you still on get 14 days of their money?

DutchTeenCash 02-11-2007 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11898076)
hold up, so with awe revshare, you ONLY get paid for 14 days from that user?

so, if they continue buying minutes for 8 months off your referral, you still on get 14 days of their money?

bump

cause id like to know that too - just switched some traffic to them

Jace 02-11-2007 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11898102)
bump

cause id like to know that too - just switched some traffic to them

i thought it was just 14 day cookie, which doesn't bother me a bit, but only 14 days of their referral money is so not cool

bobby666 02-11-2007 09:29 AM

they offer both, in my sig you see why cou should choose rev share

DaddyHalbucks 02-11-2007 09:39 AM

AW Empire converts very good.

So does MooCash.

The only way to know for sure is to try them with your traffic.

Yes, go with rev share.

fuzebox 02-11-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11898076)
hold up, so with awe revshare, you ONLY get paid for 14 days from that user?

so, if they continue buying minutes for 8 months off your referral, you still on get 14 days of their money?

Exactly.

And the worst part is, the reason why they call it the "14 day cookie" is that your affiliate info is not attached to that user in any way. Your affiliate ID is only kept on a browser cookie that lasts 14 days, so if day 1 the surfer clicks your link, and day 4 actually buys credits for the first time, you only have 10 days of revshare earnings left, provided that that member doesn't switch computers or clear cookies.

I really don't understand how anyone makes money with this program...

Jace 02-11-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898330)
Exactly.

And the worst part is, the reason why they call it the "14 day cookie" is that your affiliate info is not attached to that user in any way. Your affiliate ID is only kept on a browser cookie that lasts 14 days, so if day 1 the surfer clicks your link, and day 4 actually buys credits for the first time, you only have 10 days of revshare earnings left, provided that that member doesn't switch computers or clear cookies.

I really don't understand how anyone makes money with this program...

that can't be right....jeez!

like I said, I don't mind the 14 day cookie for sales, but once that user signs up I should at least get revshare on their spendings

DutchTeenCash 02-11-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898330)
Exactly.

And the worst part is, the reason why they call it the "14 day cookie" is that your affiliate info is not attached to that user in any way. Your affiliate ID is only kept on a browser cookie that lasts 14 days, so if day 1 the surfer clicks your link, and day 4 actually buys credits for the first time, you only have 10 days of revshare earnings left, provided that that member doesn't switch computers or clear cookies.

I really don't understand how anyone makes money with this program...

wow that sucks - I sure hope thats not true

cause we have recurring memberships from 2-3 yrs ago still paying revshare to affiliates, if AWE just send 14 days then thats missing out on a potential recurring payout for months.

Ill post AWE Bens reply.

tranza 02-11-2007 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 11815172)
They have PPS, but I don't use it for several reasons:

1. You are instantly hated by all other affiliates, since a user who once signed up via PPS is out for lifetime, noone will ever be able to earn a cent with that users, neither PPS, nor revshare. Revshare uses a 2 week cookie, after that time the user is back in the pool.

2. Only users that never signed up via revshare will be paid in the PPS, and since Livejasmin is around for a long time, ratios are better with revshare since people often already have an account and re-activate it.

3. You rarely catch a whale, but those few heavy users make up for those only spending a few bucks once, my average per signup is more than PPS payout.

You make some nice points there.

fuzebox 02-11-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11898346)
that can't be right....jeez!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11898422)
wow that sucks - I sure hope thats not true

Come on guys, I don't talk out of my ass.

Official statement from AWE about why they don't think webmasters deserve long-term recurring income: 9630655-post129.html

Full thread (how could you miss this 8 pager?): fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html

Matt 26z 02-11-2007 11:06 AM

I can't believe so many webmasters are still in the dark about AWE's scummy practices. AWE has publicly stated that affiliates do not deserve true lifetime revshare. So your referral income is cut off after 14 days. That's not to mention even more bullshit with their PPS option.

Jace 02-11-2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898589)
Come on guys, I don't talk out of my ass.

Official statement from AWE about why they don't think webmasters deserve long-term recurring income: 9630655-post129.html

Full thread (how could you miss this 8 pager?): fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html

ha, I posted in that thread

guess I just didn't follow up

bobby666 02-11-2007 11:43 AM

i know about that, but what shall i do???

i have earned using cams.com 78 dollars in my lifetime, promoting it as well as awe at the same time - and if you look at my stats (in my sig) you'll see i can live with the 14 day cookies of awe


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 11898619)
I can't believe so many webmasters are still in the dark about AWE's scummy practices. AWE has publicly stated that affiliates do not deserve true lifetime revshare. So your referral income is cut off after 14 days. That's not to mention even more bullshit with their PPS option.


Jace 02-11-2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666 (Post 11898723)
i know about that, but what shall i do???

i have earned using cams.com 78 dollars in my lifetime, promoting it as well as awe at the same time - and if you look at my stats (in my sig) you'll see i can live with the 14 day cookies of awe

LOL...cams.com and awe are the only cam sponors?

looks like you make horrible choices

bobby666 02-11-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11898732)
LOL...cams.com and awe are the only cam sponors?

looks like you make horrible choices

i have tried all webcam sponsors, but cams-com made at least 78 dollars :pimp

something totaly different Jace:
i love your new shop. although i still havent bought any content yet (no sitebuilding currently)
congrats on your prices and content

Jace 02-11-2007 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666 (Post 11898762)
i have tried all webcam sponsors, but cams-com made at least 78 dollars :pimp

something totaly different Jace:
i love your new shop. although i still havent bought any content yet (no sitebuilding currently)
congrats on your prices and content

not mine, just helping them get the word out

DutchTeenCash 02-12-2007 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898589)
Come on guys, I don't talk out of my ass.

Official statement from AWE about why they don't think webmasters deserve long-term recurring income: 9630655-post129.html

Full thread (how could you miss this 8 pager?): fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html

HOLY CRAPALONY

so I missed that - right well I guess Bens not gonna reply to my email now.

thanks for the heads up.

TheSenator 02-12-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898589)
Come on guys, I don't talk out of my ass.

Official statement from AWE about why they don't think webmasters deserve long-term recurring income: 9630655-post129.html

Full thread (how could you miss this 8 pager?): fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html


A webmaster should fully be aware that they only have a 14 day rev share. Some webmaster feel comfortable about that, I would be comfortable if they told that to everybody in their TOS.

lazycash 02-12-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666 (Post 11898762)
i have tried all webcam sponsors, but cams-com made at least 78 dollars :pimp

something totaly different Jace:
i love your new shop. although i still havent bought any content yet (no sitebuilding currently)
congrats on your prices and content

Lol, you haven't tried them all and you keep referring to your sig. Your sig shows .15/unique, not bad, but I haven't earned that low from a cam sponsor in over five years. I checked some of the cam sponsors I've been sending to and I've earned over $11k each with mtree and HSN on my last 28k uniques sent to each program just as your sig. Hell I even earned $7200 on my last 28k uniques with Camazon. Get out and try some other cam sponsors and stop sig whoring a sponsor that has blatantly deceived webmasters. Also, please stop comparing anything to cams.com, they are the worst cam sponsor out there.

lazycash 02-12-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 11902989)
HOLY CRAPALONY

so I missed that - right well I guess Bens not gonna reply to my email now.

thanks for the heads up.

Yep, I can't believe how many people promote them and are unaware of this. The reason most people don't know is because AWE makes it a point not to disclose this and only did so when their affiliates called them out in their own support forum and on this board. They don't disclose it at all anywhere in their program details and don't inform the webmaster upon signing up.

They take advantage of the fact that anyone who has ever promoted webcams thinks of "revshare" to mean for as long as that visitor returns and makes purchases for life. Then to top it off, the program owner insults his webmasters by saying he doesn't think they deserve anything longer than 14 days of revshare and then turns around and dumps a million bucks into promoting the useless "Live Sex Awards".

RobertD 02-12-2007 05:49 PM

HOLY SHIT! ok, AWE links are coming down right now :mad:

TheJimmy 02-12-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11898076)
hold up, so with awe revshare, you ONLY get paid for 14 days from that user?

so, if they continue buying minutes for 8 months off your referral, you still on get 14 days of their money?

that's how I understand it, also heard rumor that one of the owners or managers said that webmasters barely deserve that...

would make for a great sig if true LOL
:pimp


But in reality I do hear they convert and payout some nice money... from a few reliable sources...

Maxxx9000 02-13-2007 01:36 AM

I ran with Cams.com and AWE side by side for a while. AWE didn't do shit for me. But cams.com Converted crazy good. And they pay more.

Kevsh 02-13-2007 01:53 AM

While I'm sure every affiliate would prefer a lifetime revshare, this method does put the customers back out for others to earn money off of. It helps reduce saturation that you'll find with promoting other big sites.

Of course, a significant % of customers will not come back through another webmaster's link, some do (intentionally or not) and it's easy money for the secondary webmaster. And you figure, if a big fish kind of guy is on the site buying for months/years, a few times at least he'll get cookied again. So what you lose in referring new customers you can make back a healthy amount in these cases.

Bottom line: There's a reason why so many still promote them despite the cookie issue. The money is still there to be made.

And yes, I'm flying their link in my sig so my vote/opinion may not count. That's up to you. :)

DamageX 02-13-2007 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 11898330)
I really don't understand how anyone makes money with this program...

What are you talking about? AWE does! :Graucho

teomaxxx 02-13-2007 04:04 AM

I remeber we were promised by AWE year ago, that they would setup lifetime revshare with 20% for webmasters.
I am sure the reason why we didnt see it yet, they are doing more money with 14 day cookies for 30% to webmaster then they would be with 20% lifetime.

teomaxxx 02-13-2007 04:04 AM

I remeber we were promised by AWE year ago, that they would setup lifetime revshare with 20% for webmasters.
I am sure the reason why we didnt see it yet, they are doing more money with 14 day cookies for 30% to webmaster then they would be with 20% lifetime.

fuzebox 02-13-2007 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 11908220)
this method does put the customers back out for others to earn money off of. It helps reduce saturation that you'll find with promoting other big sites.

So you're saying it's nice because you can steal members from other affiliates who already referred them?

TubeSubmitters 02-13-2007 10:59 AM

I remeber we were promised by AWE year ago, that they would setup lifetime revshare with 20% for webmasters.
I am sure the reason why we didnt see it yet, they are doing more money with 14 day cookies for 30% to webmaster then they would be with 20% lifetime.

WildOrchidz 02-13-2007 03:56 PM

Have you seen this www.wildcamcash.com ?
It's about real LIFETIME revshare for webmasters .
Check this up.
Don't be so conservative with AWE :)


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