China shoots down satellite
 

Some scary stuff
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/0...rss_topstories

? Chinese use a missile to ram and destroy an old, orbiting satellite
? Experts: China now may have ability to knock out U.S. GPS and spy satellites
? Washington issues formal diplomatic protest

They could knock out XM radio too, noooooooo!

I'm sure more intelligence staffers have been reassigned to watch China just based on this development alone.

I am fairly certain we could do the very damn same thing to satalites. Guess we are also guilty eh?

the chinese are harmless
all they want to do is pirate our XM satellite feeds

bingo.

I wonder how long the americans have had the capability to do so?

R

Nothing like trying to stir shit up eh ?? :1orglaugh

Launch a missle less than 600 miles up that just rams an object? Um decades at least.

ever heard of the TANSTAHP principle?

There Ain't No Such Thing As Harmless People

Don't worry about the Chinese. It doesn't matter that they like to massacre Tibetans, torture people, imprison all the adult webmasters they can get their hands on, etc. The US is obviously far more evil.

so let me get this right usa can fly shit that deters everyones national interest but others can't?

us can shoot down anything that deters national interest but others can't?

YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING.

the days are counted US supremassy will no longer be. shit they can not fucking win a war from a to z.

but the so called third world countries are getting technology.

wonder who will be next world power.

Omg Omg Fear Fear Consume Consume

We can have WMDs but others can't because we're more civilized and smarterer than them...

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God I hate US media.

I KNOW YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING RIGHT@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHA

Who gives a flying fuck. What countries can do and what they do do are different things.

As long as my favorite chinese restaurant is not affected I'm cool.

hey it's a two way street

Thread title is very misleading.

China didn't "shoot down" anything. They sent a payload into space, and part of that payload was a device which tracked and attached itself to a weather sat, and then forced the sat into a decaying orbit. It isn't entirely clear that it exploded, but may have just been a significant push or a minor detonation to damage the sat's own stability gear, example, or to damage the communication gear in such a way that ground stations could no longer keep it in orbit.

It does, however, bring the whole arms race to space, which is not good.

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I want to see Bush wearing an African animal skin loincloth before he leaves office...although I'll settle for him just leaving office...

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1956 probably

thats what im thinking.. basically CNN just told the world China has now taken their first steps out of the stone age. :2 cents:

and the point of this story is? china decided to get rid of one of THEIR satellites in space (which does not belong to anyone) and the american government says this is wrong? The us government need to fucking shut up they have an opinion on everything and most the shit they do have one on has nothing to do with them

thats like me complaining the guy down the street can strow stones into my garden what the fuck?

Jealousy is a bitch

undisclosed sources say the chinks are trying to take Howard Stern off the air.
appears they don't like him.

Amen Bro.

:(

Overheard in Beijing:

"Human rights? We don't need no stinking human rights."

:mad: :mad: :mad:

lol its because of their eyes?
no im joking but when you get bored people tend to blow shit up for fun
hey we've all done it right?

I prefer setting fires but I see your point.

What do you think all those Shuttle Missions are doing?
They go up for 8-9 days, and all we get is a 30 second clip of them waxing the out side of the hull or bringing in that slow assed robotic arm.

Or if we are really lucky, we will get to hear thier wake up alarm of some Aerosmith.
C'Mon! Just "relaxing is orbit...nothing to see here".
You think they really spend all that money just to float a few test tubes aroud?

as long as they dont take out sat tv ;)

:thumbsup

I love Charlie and Bev ....

I am pretty sure that they shot down one of our spy satellites about a month ago. Recall that being in the news.

Yep. And not to sound like the Chskt guy but the U.S. has a giant laser now that can hit near earth orbit objects. Saw it on a History channel show.

FTA ftw

playboy is down tho

Dont' forget all those shuttle missions where the activity is "classified".

You know they weren't up there changing batteries in HAL.

Very stupid of the Chinese to do this. It seems more like something North Korea would do if it could... "look what we can do!"

It was pure provocation. You don't get rid of your old satellites by blowing them up. You put them in a graveyard orbit or let them decay in one piece and burn up in the atmosphere

Now there are thousands more pieces of space junk up there to potentially hit other satellites (ours and theirs) the ISS etc.

It does give Bush a great reason to allocate more funds openly to the arms race in Space even though he says it doesn't exist.

Those guys are dangerous:)

Talk about the goevrnment's priority.

This is a tool to protect Chinese Military assets if they have a confrontation with the U.S. over something (like taiwan).

The basic strategy of China in a war would be massive amounts of troops to overwhelm their adversary. While they have created/bought/stolen some very advanced weapon systems, they have not allocated the resourses to mass produce them and train their personel on them. So in a conflict with the U.S. it would be a classic manpower vs. technology conflict.

Problem for them is those are our ABSOULTE FAVORITE types of wars to fight. In a conventional war, which a war with China would be, our overwhelming technical superiority would at the minimum massively damage their military, and could defeat it all together. Remember desert storm? Saddam had the 4th largest military in the world and we crushed it like it was the second string of a pee-wee football team. Bosina? One of the things that shocked our NATO allies was that we could continuously and accurately bomb targets all day and night in ANY weather. They did not have this capability, and this is Europe, not some little third world country. Same with Afghanistan and the begining of the Iraq war.

A big part of that technological superiority comes from our gps satellites and spy satellites. If they could significantly destroy the gps and spy satellites it might significantly degrade our ability to crush their army from far distances. We may be forced to rely on more ground troops and our pilots may have to risk flying lower and closer to their targets to hit them. All of this will result in the increased likelyhood of American casualties. Thus the U.S. would be more likely to negotiate (i.e. give taiwan over to the chicoms) than we would have before.

So, if I'm America, I would be a little worried. If I was taiwan I would be shitting bricks right now:Oh crap

Joehoya

reading impaired I presume ....

They didn't BLOW IT UP ....

Fuck...this is not good.


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from the article
he United States has been able to bring down satellites with missiles since the mid-1980s, according to a history of ASAT programs posted on the Union of Concerned Scientists Web site. In its own test, the U.S. military knocked a satellite out of orbit in 1985.

So, once again, why is China now lambasted for something that has already been done by the US?

I don't know where you and RawAlex are getting your info from. :helpme

Everything I've read says the satellite was struck by a missile traveling at hundreds or thousands of miles an hour.

It wasn't a gentle docking where they hit the "off" button. You are giving the Chinese way too much credit. Go to Heaven's Above or Spacetrack and look at the pieces they are tracking..and that's just the biggest chunks..even 1mm pieces can likely damage other satellites.

But if you guys don't want to call it an "explosion" or "shooting it down" or "blowing it up", what shall we call it? How about a very nasty booboo? :thumbsup

The US did it in the eighties but I doubt very much they would do it now when there are hundreds more satellites in orbit that could possibly be affected by the debris.

let's all build bomb shelters and buy provisions. the end of the world is coming. lol. china's not going to screw with the US, they need each other too much. China will be the next world power based on their numbers and economic power, but they need the US and basically everyone else for a number of things including raw materials and such. Look at what Mao did when he was in power and you will realize that China isn't in a position to go it alone they have a lot of work to do to repair the country before they can make significant moves forward. Not to mention they don't have access to the ammount of oil that they need to make it all come together.

I don't like what they did to Jack Bauer. The bastards.

man your posts are really funniieee lately hahah

Wow, this looks promising.

Oh dear :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Welcome to reality... nothing has more guarantees to get the US spluttering than another nation testing their systems....

Any nation can do what the hell they like in space - that includes destroying one of their old satellites. The Chinese or anyone else, never did need permission from the US to do this.

Of course Washington will launch a formal diplomatic protest - along with threats, sanctions and warnings - that's all they do on any subject.

The main concern here is XM radio.... :winkwink:

I'm not saying a word.

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Britain, Japan and Australia joined the United States on Friday in voicing concern about the rising militarization of space after China successfully carried out a test of an anti-satellite weapon.