Two things I hate about Firefox
 

When you cut and paste it adds blank spaces.

When you delete a favorite it loses the drop down menu after deleting.

That's my rant, sorry

I have that problem with the copy and paste thing since the last upgrade. Very fucking annoying.

Start your select on the right

A lot of the time when I copy and try to paste it pastes absolutely nothing.

Sometimes when i load google and try to type the search right away it loads my query into "control f". i hate that.

When you delete a favorite it loses the drop down menu after deleting.:disgust

I don?t have that problem?

i have neither of those problems, hmmm

Autocopy is my friend.

Firefox seems to work well for me.

Firefox sucks because it makes its own standards of css.

Requires extensions to be decent.

Is slower to render than IE.

All its features are always stolen from Opera.

It's open source.

It has the worst default hotkeys.

It's ugly.

And I notice none of that.

I downloaded a few themes, I have a cool green one right now (aluminum Kai2) thats nice, I can barely stand to use exploder anymore.

Im looking forward to a new laptop with vista after the bugs are outa it.

[QUOTEFirefox sucks because it makes its own standards of css.[/quote]
wrong , firefox uses the right standards , IE uses its down

extensions just add extra features , out of the box firefox is bloat free , allowing you to customise it to your liking


omg , cars have 4 wheels and a steering wheel , they stole it from the model t ford ( can't remember any older cars)


making the bug tracking and development more robust


[quoteIt's ugly.[/QUOTE]
looks ok to me , but eye candy isn't my thing , plain and simple gui is what i like

With 5 tabs open it causes my system to hang.
I know this shouldn't be a problem with 1GB of ram.

Anyone else?

you're an idiot, FireFox uses W3 Standards for CSS


maybe upgrade from 64mb? i have 512mb of ram, and my demension 3000 runs fine with 15+ tabs open, photoshop, irc, dreamweaver, ftp, aim, icq, winamp, and utorrent all open at once

Firefox loads much much faster than IE. I know a lot of people who have noticed this.

Ive had as many as 18 tabs running at once and it keeps chugging, and it loads faster for me as well!

Actually IE makes it's own standards, not firefox.

I dislike firefox these days, but your arguments are just silly.

i LOVE ff2 :thumbsup

yeah the copy and paste thing is pissing me off

I hate has his big memory consumation.

IE rocks...

come on, that's the best you could come up with?

using ie to surf the net = having unprotected anal sex with a crackwhore.

on another note; the new IE seems to pretty good :upsidedow

I use Azerty III as my theme, because I'm minimalist like that.

FF loads way faster than IE for me, but yeah, it doesn't render every site perfectly because people don't always double check their designs in FF.

The previous version of FF was somewhat unstable for me, but this one has yet to hang due to memory leaks. I've had 40 tabs open with no crashes.

http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2

Check out the Acid2 test. Only Opera passes it.

Still think that FF is compatible with W3?

-moz-inline-box???

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#display-prop

Ohhh shit it doesn't work as W3 suggestions, probably because W3 is just a guide line, its not the be all end all.

However, it obviously didn't follow W3 for display property, it came up with its own -moz-inline-box.

Altho FF2 is a lot BETTER than FF1.5 or which ever was the last version before 2.0, it doesn't follow CSS as strickly as Opera.

I like the crash feature in firefox when it crashes you can restore the session. I enjoy the fact that anyone can add to firefox making extentions and the extra's that make browsing easier. I would never use opera as they used to have ads in their browser and I hated it because of that, I don't think they have them anymore though. I don't like IE because I just got so used to firefox and IE seems to be a spyware magnet (probably because it is the most popular browser) I also think Firefox is they best browser because of the number of people that use it, I think firefox would be more widely used that IE if both browsers were installed on new machines out of the factory. The new IE seems to me that its a rip-off of Firefox now that they have the searchbar and tabbed browsing and the look of it too, Microsoft would never copy something that was not better than what they already have. On the downside though Firefox still has the odd bug here and there but it is still a "newish" browser compared with IE

Hehe, crash restore feature - stolen from Opera.

IE looks like a rip off of Firefox to you?
Firefox looks like a rip off of Opera to me.

Firefox is based on Netscape and Netscape has been around longer than Opera, Maybe the crash featur was stolen from opera but the rest of that statement is entirely false.

Yes, that's true :)

That's what bothers me the most. It happens sometimes that it change a bit my site design and then I have to come up with other tricks to make it look right .

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You sire, fail at life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...elease_history

Opera, 1996
Netscape, 2000

Exactly.

THIS is the most annoying shit in the world.

:mad:

hahhah , exactly , opera is the best browser... when i code websites i always do it according to opera and then do all the adjustments or hacks for other browsers

opera walks hand in hand with W3

No Netscape Navigator was out in 1994 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator

I should know I used to use it in the 90's

Well i guess your right, i just thought that since it was never developed on and it pretty much died off pretty fast its not fair to count it. It's return brought some innovation.

I donno what the hell Netscape Communicator was tho.

still prefer it over IE7 :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This is a funny thread.

Being a coder at heart I use FF2. The extensions , which you can also write yourself, are very very useful.

IE belongs to Microsoft so I wouldn't touch it with yours cuz you don't know what standards they decide to impose on you or tie you into. Opera is based on IE code and I found Opera cluttered and clunky.

As to the mentioned problems at the begining of this thread I've never had them so it must be a User Error or an ID10T error. :winkwink:

I.

Being a coder at heart I use Opera. The browser makes development so much easier.

IE sucks, we all know that, but PHP sucks too, its a bloated open source language which has countless useless features added by lazy people who don't like using a function for a specific task, so they add a new function. It's cluttered and clunky.

That is some very very old bug in all Mozilla software. I remember I read about it in old Bugzilla posts and it still annoys the hell out of me in in FF1.5 and TB 1.5. Unbelievable they let this bug persist for years.

Anybody know if this "empty" copy & paste issue has been resolved in the 2.0 line of releases?

The good news is that the Firefox development builds now pass Acid2. :)
So 3.0 will too.

Leving IE as the only major browser not even trying to pass.

Opera! :thumbsup

i run 100+ tabs in FF2 and have NO problems at all...

yeah works good here as well

only issue i have is sometimes when i copy/paste, nothing happens.

ive never had the blank spaces issue.

Actually, both you guys have it backwards:P After Netscape 4 (I think), Netscape was based on Mozilla, not the other way around. Netscape actually employs quite a few of the Mozilla developers, or at least did at one time.

So yea, Opera was technically before Mozilla, and the versions of Netscape that were based on it.

Opera simply is a great browser, and does a ton of things well, while still leaving a tiny memory footprint, and remaining very very speedy. Has tons of features you would normally only get in FF with a ton of extensions, but that being said.. FF has some really damn good extensions for web devs, that make it hard to use anything else, even though I kind of want too.

I just really hate FireFox's bookmark management. Totally clunky. They need to take a look at how Safari does it. I cant even sort my bookmark list alphabetically without extensions:mad:

are you about retarded and a half?

-moz- infront of it means its being tested by not only W3 but also Mozilla for working properly, its BETA....