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Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:35 AM

Can someone explain to me?
 
Can someone explain to me why people think that they are different from other people..Are there actually people in this world that really think for whatever reason they are different than anyone else..please explain..

is it skin color?
is it because they live in a different place?
is it because they wear different hats?
WHY WHY WHY..

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 08:39 AM

We are ALL different. What makes you think we are the same?

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 08:39 AM

Oh shit. You're about to get all philosophical on us, aren't you?

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733810)
We are ALL different. What makes you think we are the same?


ahh DNA..i dont mean the same thoughts the same lifestyles..I mean different in a way that makes us hate so much..I believe its brainwashing..control of societies thoughts and actions..I mean why hate someone becasue they live somewhere else..or think differently???

drowsy 01-15-2007 08:43 AM

i think its because they wear different hats. lol

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733820)
ahh DNA..i dont mean the same thoughts the same lifestyles..I mean different in a way that makes us hate so much..I believe its brainwashing..control of societies thoughts and actions..I mean why hate someone becasue they live somewhere else..or think differently???

Why do we hate? It's simple conditioning in most cases. If nearly every time you see a person of a certain color and they hurt you, steal from you, are loud and obnoxious or stink like sweaty feet it's human nature to begin to dislike everyone of that color regardless of their character.

King Adam 01-15-2007 08:46 AM

Human nature. Just like pack animials, humans create groups and these groups don't like outsiders. Also, parents, TV and government leaders have been teaching hate for many years.

Brad 01-15-2007 08:47 AM

I think It's called a brain. Everyone thinks differently and because of that we perceive ourselves to be a certain way and project that image outwardly, and that makes us look different. I guess you could say that we are all the same with respect to species, but what sets humans apart form another animal is the fact that we are able to think and retain a large amount of knowledge. The fact that we can think and make decisions in the manner that we do, makes us all different, even identical twins.

I was reading yesterday that a guy too 40,000 Hits of Ecstasy over the course of 9 years. For obvious reasons that guy is paranoid and in general fucked up. Do you think you are the same as him? Or how about Nelson Mandela, or the Dalai Lama?
Did you even think before you asked that question?

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733833)
Why do we hate? It's simple conditioning in most cases. If nearly every time you see a person of a certain color and they hurt you, steal from you, are loud and obnoxious or stink like sweaty feet it's human nature to begin to dislike everyone of that color regardless of their character.

so closed minds make us diiferent..ok..

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 11733835)
Human nature. Just like pack animials, humans create groups and these groups don't like outsiders. Also, parents, TV and government leaders have been teaching hate for many years.

and where did we learn this so called human nature..school,books tv? and why do we believe that??

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 11733839)
I think It's called a brain. Everyone thinks differently and because of that we perceive ourselves to be a certain way and project that image outwardly, and that makes us look different. I guess you could say that we are all the same with respect to species, but what sets humans apart form another animal is the fact that we are able to think and retain a large amount of knowledge. The fact that we can think and make decisions in the manner that we do, makes us all different, even identical twins.

I was reading yesterday that a guy too 40,000 Hits of Ecstasy over the course of 9 years. For obvious reasons that guy is paranoid and in general fucked up. Do you think you are the same as him? Or how about Nelson Mandela, or the Dalai Lama?
Did you even think before you asked that question?

same DNA..yes..same thoughts and feelings of course not..

and did I even think of course i did..i just dont get it..why is there so much hate and chaos..I mean after all this time shouldnt things be getting getter..or are we not ready for that..??

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733843)
so closed minds make us diiferent..ok..

That's not being closed minded. I don't believe anyone is born a racist. It's taught in one way or another. Those that are taught to hate by a parent are ignorant. Those who hate because of conditioning are human.

Tom_PM 01-15-2007 08:52 AM

One word: Religion

heh, that should spark a debate.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733860)
That's not being closed minded. I don't believe anyone is born a racist. It's taught in one way or another. Those that are taught to hate by a parent are ignorant. Those who hate because of conditioning are human.

so its human nature to allow others to influence our thoughts..so we are that weak of mind we cant figure it out for ourselves..??

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 11733865)
One word: Religion

heh, that should spark a debate.

so fake made up beliefs makes us hate and kill others..ok..

darksoul 01-15-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733858)
.why is there so much hate and chaos.. ?

haven't you seen matrix ?
if everything would be nice and confy we would get bored pretty quick.

King Adam 01-15-2007 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733848)
and where did we learn this so called human nature..school,books tv? and why do we believe that??

Human Nature is Human Nature. If I could tell you why we are the way we are, I'd be a god.

The parents, TV, books, news, religion ... all that stuff is tought to us and it brings out the shitty part of our human nature. If these things weren't tought to us, we'd start to evolve and the hate would start to subside.

I don't hate and I wish others were the same.

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733870)
so its human nature to allow others to influence our thoughts..so we are that weak of mind we cant figure it out for ourselves..??

Huh?? Where did you get that? Those who are conditioned are "weak of mind"? You can't be serious.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 11733877)
haven't you seen matrix ?
if everything would be nice and confy we would get bored pretty quick.

is that what you truly believe??

peace and harmony would be boring..I would love to know what you base that on..ive been on this planet for over 40 years and i have not known a peaceful time yet..

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 11733884)
Human Nature is Human Nature. If I could tell you why we are the way we are, I'd be a god.

The parents, TV, books, news, religion ... all that stuff is tought to us and it brings out the shitty part of our human nature. If these things weren't tought to us, we'd start to evolve and the hate would start to subside.

I don't hate and I wish others were the same.

but isnt what human nature is up to us humans..or are we forced to think otherwise..???

Tom_PM 01-15-2007 09:00 AM

People are lazy just like water. It's easier to believe what you're told than it is to make up your own mind on a complicated subject.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733893)
Huh?? Where did you get that? Those who are conditioned are "weak of mind"? You can't be serious.

im not sure if its serious or not..but to be conditioned would mean you are allowing others thoughts to influence yours..like you cant make up your own mind or take the time to figure it out..yes i would say thats very weak indeed..

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 11733902)
People are lazy just like water. It's easier to believe what you're told than it is to make up your own mind on a complicated subject.

aaah hhaaaa..so we are lazy enough to allow ourselves to be munipulated into believeing and living as we are told..would that make us SHEEP..??

Tom_PM 01-15-2007 09:03 AM

Yes, hence the phrase: sheeple

King Adam 01-15-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733914)
aaah hhaaaa..so we are lazy enough to allow ourselves to be munipulated into believeing and living as we are told..would that make us SHEEP..??

The majority of people .... YES.

darksoul 01-15-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733914)
aaah hhaaaa..so we are lazy enough to allow ourselves to be munipulated into believeing and living as we are told..would that make us SHEEP..??

I think its safe to assume a big percentage is just sheep
like it or not.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 11733924)
The majority of people .... YES.

so they have given up there right to think for themselves..wonder why..?? and damn thats sad..

King Adam 01-15-2007 09:06 AM

You must understand the first part. Most people are stupid. And I'm not making a joke. Most people are just not smart. They don't have the ability to figure things out. They just follow others because they think they are smart and because those other people have better answers then they do to lifes big questions.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 11733927)
I think its safe to assume a big percentage is just sheep
like it or not.

i dont like or dislike it..i just think that the more control of our own thoughts and feelings we give up the more control others have to munipulate and control us..

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733907)
im not sure if its serious or not..but to be conditioned would mean you are allowing others thoughts to influence yours..like you cant make up your own mind or take the time to figure it out..yes i would say thats very weak indeed..

If every time you see me I walk up and punch you in the nose you will learn to hate me and avoid me. That is conditioning. If you don't learn from trends and life experiences you are ignorant.

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 09:07 AM

You know who I hate? Ignorant flower children. :1orglaugh

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 11733932)
You must understand the first part. Most people are stupid. And I'm not making a joke. Most people are just not smart. They don't have the ability to figure things out. They just follow others because they think they are smart and because those other people have better answers then they do to lifes big questions.

ok good point..i disagree but that is a good point..it would also then release all responsibility from ones self would it not..i mean you hear people all the time referring to 'them' as if they have no responsibility for what goes on..

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733935)
If every time you see me I walk up and punch you in the nose you will learn to hate me and avoid me. That is conditioning. If you don't learn from trends and life experiences you are ignorant.

really..ok..so i have no way to avoid being conditioned..like for instance i couldnt just punch you back..or try and work it out so you dont do that anymore..wow..again sad..

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733954)
really..ok..so i have no way to avoid being conditioned..like for instance i couldnt just punch you back..or try and work it out so you dont do that anymore..wow..again sad..

I'm black. If you hit me back that would be a hate crime.

King Adam 01-15-2007 09:14 AM

It doesn't release any responsibility. These stupid individuals would like to think it does but in the end, each person is still responsible for their own actions. They may be sheep and follow others but there is a difference in listening to others and believing them and actually listening to them and doing something about it.

Most people listen, believe and continue on with their simple lives. Others listen, believe and take action. Sometimes this is good and sometimes its very bad.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11733963)
I'm black. If you hit me back that would be a hate crime.


in your mind maybe..not in mine..i would have to believe that color somehow made us different to allow a made up term like hate crime to mean anything..

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam (Post 11733965)
It doesn't release any responsibility. These stupid individuals would like to think it does but in the end, each person is still responsible for their own actions. They may be sheep and follow others but there is a difference in listening to others and believing them and actually listening to them and doing something about it.

Most people listen, believe and continue on with their simple lives. Others listen, believe and take action. Sometimes this is good and sometimes its very bad.

actions yes what about thoughts???

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:22 AM

I was at a bar yesterday and everyone was watching the NFL playoffs..and they are so serious about it..like it makes a shit bit of difference in what is really important..and then i realized thats what they have been conditioned to think is important..the world is getting worse by the day..war,starvation,death chaos..its not what everyday Joe wants..so why is it still this way..my thought is the few who run the world want it that way..cuz wouldnt it be different otherwise..so we have given up so much control to the few the masses can suffer..I think that pitiful..

Babaganoosh 01-15-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Historic Erotica (Post 11733992)
I was at a bar yesterday and everyone was watching the NFL playoffs..and they are so serious about it..like it makes a shit bit of difference in what is really important..and then i realized thats what they have been conditioned to think is important..the world is getting worse by the day..war,starvation,death chaos..its not what everyday Joe wants..so why is it still this way..my thought is the few who run the world want it that way..cuz wouldnt it be different otherwise..so we have given up so much control to the few the masses can suffer..I think that pitiful..

Wait, you mean while there is war, starvation, death and chaos occurring you are at a bar watching football? YOU have been conditioned to think hanging out at a bar is important. If you really cared, you'd be in the peace corps or at least serving the homeless hot meals down at your Salvation Army. We see where your priorities really are.

BlackCrayon 01-15-2007 09:33 AM

some people want to think they are special.

Historic Erotica 01-15-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 11734011)
Wait, you mean while there is war, starvation, death and chaos occurring you are at a bar watching football? YOU have been conditioned to think hanging out at a bar is important. If you really cared, you'd be in the peace corps or at least serving the homeless hot meals down at your Salvation Army. We see where your priorities really are.

your right...100%


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