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jimmy3way 07-26-2002 10:09 PM

Why are Porn People Such Fucking Greasebags
 
Okay a while back a guy who frequents this board needed some programming and admin help with his program so I reccomended a buddy of mine.

Guess what, after countless hours of work and tons of patience, time comes to pay and this shitbag runs off with the money and refuses to pay.

People like this asre too common in porn.

PS You probably all know who I'm talking about.

Sly_RJ 07-26-2002 10:10 PM

No contract or down payment?

Exxxotica 07-26-2002 10:15 PM

Porn people are able to hide behind keyboards. It makes it easy for cheaters and ripoff guys to do their thing.

jimmy3way 07-26-2002 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
No contract or down payment?
A contract is as worthless as the paper it's written on.

Does it make this greasebag honorable if my bro has to hire a lawyer and go to court to get money he earned?

Fuck no.

UnseenWorld 07-26-2002 10:27 PM

A lot of people in porn make their money in ways which range from slightly to very dishonest. I remember a thread about billing companies, and one of the major criticisms of one company was that they (imagine this) notify subscribers when their subscription is about to run out as a way of controlling chargebacks. From the commotion that ensued, I can only guess a lot of webmasters are quite content to keep money that their customers didn't intend for them to have. And this is just a small-time example. How about tours that promise more than the site delivers? How about blind links? These are just the accepted dishonesties. Let's not even talk about hotlinking, pirated content, plagiarized designs and metatags, hijacked domains, and so on. I'm sure many of you can think of many more examples.

jimmy3way 07-26-2002 10:29 PM

I understand what you are saying, but truth is some of that stuff is grey area shit, this is a pure case of theft of service.

Keev 07-26-2002 10:37 PM

been there done that , been fucked over by designers, programmers... a persons name and ruptation is everything don't matter what business your in. A quick buck isnt worth it ...

jimmy3way 07-26-2002 11:03 PM

Okay check this out every day that the shit bag doesn't pay I'm going to post a letter of his handle here.

And then for other people he's ripped off I'm going to sell his current address and social security number on Ebay so people who want to sue him can see that he gets served.

All proceed go to my buddy.

Amputate Your Head 07-26-2002 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way
You probably all know who I'm talking about.
pimpdog?

jimmy3way 07-26-2002 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

pimpdog?

No, less recent.

vegasdude 07-26-2002 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

pimpdog?

pimpdog II

Amputate Your Head 07-26-2002 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way


No, less recent.

me?

vegasdude 07-26-2002 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

me?

:1orglaugh

LiveDose 07-26-2002 11:14 PM

Ok, how about the first letter....:thumbsup

vegasdude 07-26-2002 11:15 PM

mr. ace? Tennis Ace Junior :1orglaugh

TDF 07-26-2002 11:15 PM

lets play HANGMAN!!!

jimmy3way 07-26-2002 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
lets play HANGMAN!!!
Okay Hangman it is, wait...but it'd be like too easy.

Maybe hangman but only potheads can play.

Brad Mitchell 07-26-2002 11:37 PM

There's all kinds of shit-bags floating around. We should start a nice blacklist. I could add at least a half dozen names to it.

Brad

Scootermuze 07-27-2002 12:05 AM

If you wish to go the 'theft of services' route, you don't need a lawyer.. Just go to the courthouse and have a theft of services warrant taken out on the guy... They'll put him in jail and his bail will be set at the amount that he owes you... Of course you will need proof that there was indeed a theft of service..

CC 07-27-2002 12:19 AM

Want to hear something truly ridiculous? Some fucker literally copied every single piece of an amateur paysite of mine and put it on a site of his own....both the text and html were copied verbatim, the graphics were also stolen. THEN, this fucker had the NERVE to email me asking for a link trade!!!!! UM, HELLO ARE YOU A FUCKING MORON? I checked out his stats and saw his site was getting a pathetic 50 hits/day so I decided not to do anything about it with my lawyer...I just wrote a him a nasty email instead. Some of the stuff was changed, so I decided to let it go. Some people are stupid fuckers, plain and simple.

hyper 07-27-2002 12:49 AM

hmm maybe we should start a webmaster union
and only work within that union
names.. addresses..phone numbers
no deceptive bullshit


it seems people are fucking people over left and right.

i'll join where do i signup

Paul Markham 07-27-2002 01:15 AM

This is not a PORN problem, it's an internet problem.

I've been shooting for 20+ years and in all that time I've been cheated by two publishers. Both now out of the business.

A publisher cheats a photographer and we tell all our mates in the business, who tell all of their mates and soon the publisher gets no good pictures sets.

A publisher recently appointed a CEO with a bad reputation, the publisher stopped recieving sets and when they did they had been to 4-5 other mags and turned down. The editors knew sales would fall if they did not maintain style and quality. They MADE sure we got paid.

You mess with IDs or MRs or a models age. For a magazine, they email the other big players and your business is finished.

The problem with the Internet is, you do business with cheaters, they stay around. There are so many people who think "I can cheat this guy, cos it will not effect my business"

Too many webmasters are willing to deal with anyone, so long as the price is right.

You make the market, not visa versa.

vegasdude 07-27-2002 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
If you wish to go the 'theft of services' route, you don't need a lawyer.. Just go to the courthouse and have a theft of services warrant taken out on the guy... They'll put him in jail and his bail will be set at the amount that he owes you... Of course you will need proof that there was indeed a theft of service..

umm here you need proof and a visit to court before anyone goes to jail!

jimmy3way 07-27-2002 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
If you wish to go the 'theft of services' route, you don't need a lawyer.. Just go to the courthouse and have a theft of services warrant taken out on the guy... They'll put him in jail and his bail will be set at the amount that he owes you... Of course you will need proof that there was indeed a theft of service..
That would be true if we all lived in like...Mayberry.

This is the real world and cops and courts certianly don't give a shit.

Man I wish I lived in a world as simplistic as yours seems to be...

quiet 07-27-2002 02:54 PM

you could always just post his name. i'm sure he's still doing business with other people right now.

Krome 07-27-2002 03:01 PM

I think it is rude if you do not post his name. Fuck it if we all tell the wanker to fuck off then what does he have left?

Pay Pal me $500 plus email me his address and I will kick the fuck out of him and get the money back plus my air flight payment.

hahmike 07-27-2002 03:08 PM

Krome likes to pretend he's 'ard. :D :thumbsup

actually there are a few people that i'd like the shit kicked out of.
is there anyone that would be willing to break arms/legs/necks?

(not mine... lol) :mad: :mad: :mad:

flashfreak 07-27-2002 03:19 PM

shit like happens often.

I started 2 days ago a thread asking for beta testers for my games.
I had nice chats with few people, they helped me a lot to improve my work and then a fucking bastard appears and tells me:
"are you interested in selling source? i'd prefer on doing over-time payment..."
:ak47: asshole

hahmike 07-27-2002 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
I had nice chats with few people, they helped me a lot to improve my work and then a fucking bastard appears and tells me:
"are you interested in selling source? i'd prefer on doing over-time payment..."
:ak47: asshole

who was it?
and what is so bad about that?

as long as it is a reputable person... selling a game for maybe $500 paid over 3 months isn't a bad idea.

Sly_RJ 07-27-2002 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way


A contract is as worthless as the paper it's written on.

Does it make this greasebag honorable if my bro has to hire a lawyer and go to court to get money he earned?

Fuck no.

True, but a contract is written proof of an agreement. Much easier to show the judge.

And a down payment is cash in the bag.

flashfreak 07-27-2002 03:33 PM

a reputable person doesn't make such a proposal on the first contact.

he wanted the SOURCE of the games... I spent to many days and white nights working on the games. If you were me you would accept this "proposal"?
and trust me it's worth more than 500$...

Gary 07-27-2002 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
a reputable person doesn't make such a proposal on the first contact.

he wanted the SOURCE of the games... I spent to many days and white nights working on the games to accept this "proposal"...
and trust me it's worth more than 500$...

A reputable person can make any offer they want. If you dont like the offer, dont take it. You didn't loose anything.

Jakke PNG 07-27-2002 03:40 PM

Was it me?
If it was, sorry, I won't do that again. Promise.

Sly_RJ 07-27-2002 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
a reputable person doesn't make such a proposal on the first contact.

he wanted the SOURCE of the games... I spent to many days and white nights working on the games. If you were me you would accept this "proposal"?
and trust me it's worth more than 500$...

I wouldn't accept the proposal, but I wouldn't think he was an asshole either. Whenever someone makes an offer to buy something from you, do you think they're an asshole? You should have just raised the price or politely said you're not interested.

Pretty simple really...

And reputable business people make business offers all the time. Your story is no different.

Cheshire 07-27-2002 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way
That would be true if we all lived in like...Mayberry.
Ahaha
That like... made me laugh.

TheFLY 07-27-2002 04:21 PM

That's why you should always code backdoors into your code and other anti-theft devices ;)

If you don't pay me for my code -- your machine will begin to meltdown in...

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pr0 07-27-2002 04:41 PM

If i could add up all the money people owe me...it would probably buy a brand new house. And i've only been in this biz for 3 years.

jimmy3way 07-27-2002 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
you could always just post his name. i'm sure he's still doing business with other people right now.
Well after I posted this he ICQ'd my bro and said he'd pay, so if my buddy doesn't get a check in a few days I'll post some gory details.

gothweb 07-27-2002 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
If i could add up all the money people owe me...it would probably buy a brand new house. And i've only been in this biz for 3 years.
Yeah, me too...

Oh, by the way: You just posted my phrase of the day... "up all the money people". By the rules of my game, you owe me $50. I take PayPal.

Honeyslut 07-27-2002 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way


Okay Hangman it is, wait...but it'd be like too easy.

Maybe hangman but only potheads can play.

Strip poker :Graucho

jimmy3way 08-01-2002 03:52 PM

Okay deadbeat hangman starts to day, why the hell not.

The winner gets a bottle of Hennesey or a box of Romeo y Julietas from my personal stash.

In the event of a tie, I'll have to think something up.

The guy who ripped off a very cool buddy of mine who did a lot of admin and programing work for his crappy affiliate programme goes by the handle:

_ _ _ _

TDF 08-01-2002 04:05 PM

p?

Moose 08-01-2002 04:08 PM

_ _ O _


?


i want those cigars:glugglug

jimmy3way 08-01-2002 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
_ _ O _


?


i want those cigars:glugglug

Okay that's correct.

_ _ O _

[Labret] 08-01-2002 04:12 PM

Spit out.

Thieves are shit. Out them god damnit. Quick fucking around.

Lightning 08-01-2002 04:12 PM

A ?

Moose 08-01-2002 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moose
_ _ O _


?


i want those cigars:glugglug


I was hoping it wasnt :(

but just putting 2 and 2 together with the hints you gave


_ N O _

TDF 08-01-2002 04:13 PM

s?

quiet 08-01-2002 04:13 PM

H?

jimmy3way 08-01-2002 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
s?
Okay so far we have S N O _

Quiet you are incorrect.


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