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Peaches 12-08-2006 03:35 PM

Dog folks, I need help
 
My 10 year old male started eating poop about 6 months ago. Not sure why, nothing's changed dietwise.

Now the new puppy is doing the same. He actually followed my 13 year old female outside and ATE IT AS IT CAME OUT! :throwup :throwup :throwup

I tried the Deter tablets when older dog started it and it didn't work. The vet suggested meat tenderizer. They didn't like it on their food so I bought the unseasoned kind and they still didn't like it.

I've mixed some up with water and I'm going to make it like a gravy tomorrow and see if they'll eat it then - AND if it works.

I have a decently sized fenced yard and with 4 dogs, it's impossible to cover all of it up with something. When I DO find some, I either toss it over the fence or douse it with cayenne pepper - the pepper I THINK is helping. But again, finding all the poop in the yard is near impossible.

Any suggestions?!!? (no, I'm not getting rid of the dogs....if I was going to do that it would have been when the puppy destroyed 4 chairs and a coffee table :disgust _

RRRED 12-08-2006 03:39 PM

This thread is useless without pics :upsidedow

5pm 12-08-2006 03:41 PM

It's a sign of sickness ..
Might be time for a vet trip

Other than that I can't offer much suggestion other than make sure the dog isn't given the chance by tidying up immediately ( while it's still warm YUCK! )

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED (Post 11489877)
This thread is useless without pics :upsidedow

Damn, I should video him eating it out of her butt - new niche! I'm out there screaming "Riley, stop eating poop out of Meg's butt!!!". Thank goodness I don't have close neighbors :)

Helix 12-08-2006 03:42 PM

Yucky
but here is a link to some reasons for the behaviour and possible solutions.
http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIP...PoopEating.php

Look on the bright side - at least your yard will be poop free ;)

notabook 12-08-2006 03:43 PM

One of my chihuahua’s started doing the same thing about four months ago, after about two months of doing it he just stopped. I tried similar approaches that you did by making the shit 'unappetizing' (though how the HELL you make SHIT less appetizing I'll never know) by putting hot juice on it but nothing really helped until he just decided not to eat shit anymore. Dogs are weird :|

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5pm (Post 11489893)
It's a sign of sickness ..
Might be time for a vet trip

Other than that I can't offer much suggestion other than make sure the dog isn't given the chance by tidying up immediately ( while it's still warm YUCK! )

Clean bill of health from the vet :(

And damn - the little bastard was eating it 50 feet away from me as it was coming out her ass - I'm not that quick, lol.

Trust me, I'm SO past the "YUCK" factor on this - I've picked up more poop in the last few months than I ever knew 4 dogs could produce.

Sarah_Jayne 12-08-2006 03:48 PM

My spaniel puppy has the same sort of problem. The vet told me she should grow out of it but that in some dogs (usually female) do it as instinct like a wild female dog would clean out the den to make sure there wasn't any scent that would attract enemies. She is doing it much less now but it has been my headache..especially as it isn't hers but Parker's she is going after and so I have to try to make sure I get to it before she does.

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 11489920)
Yucky
but here is a link to some reasons for the behaviour and possible solutions.
http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIP...PoopEating.php

Look on the bright side - at least your yard will be poop free ;)

Good link!

The main problem is that pugs will eat until they explode. They're on NutriMax which they've been on forever (the 10 year old since he was 1 and the puppy since I got him a few months ago).

What's funny is that for years, my older two would sniff each other's poop and walk away in disgust. Then they were BOTH eating poop, but like someone else said, the female just stopped out of the blue (or, since she's old, maybe she can't get to it in time!).

Then they come in and lick everything - including ME and their paws.

:helpme :helpme :helpme

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc (Post 11489943)
My spaniel puppy has the same sort of problem. The vet told me she should grow out of it but that in some dogs (usually female) do it as instinct like a wild female dog would clean out the den to make sure there wasn't any scent that would attract enemies.

Don't they realize no one's going to come all the way to the house and we're safe??!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

They've always loved cat and deer poop, but I have more control over that. Deer won't jump the fence (well, they will, but not often) and the cat has her own room.

Just Rob 12-08-2006 03:51 PM

no clue... My Dogs like to lick up the duck poop off my dock. i yell at them cuz you know thier coming over to lick my hands next! little fuckers! :1orglaugh

Mediachick 12-08-2006 03:52 PM

I had dogs doing that too; my dog dont do it anymore since I have changed the food I give him which a vet told me to do and to give him smaller portions 3 times a day instead of 2 big.... That vet said dogs sometimes do that when they have some nutriment 'lack' and it seems like its their way to compense. Im not sure if thats true.

I wonder if cayenne pepper wont hurt their digestive system though?

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Rob (Post 11489957)
no clue... My Dogs like to lick up the duck poop off my dock. i yell at them cuz you know thier coming over to lick my hands next! little fuckers! :1orglaugh

Oh damn, I'm sure if mine had access to duck poop they'd be all over that too, lol. We only have ducks in our lake twice a year and then only for a few days. THANK GOODNESS.

Adorable dogs :)

Peaches 12-08-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediachick (Post 11489969)
I wonder if cayenne pepper wont hurt their digestive system though?

They seem to avoid it when I cover it with cayenne pepper. I think.........It's more of a race to see if I can cover up or toss 4 dogs worth of poop before another one gets to it!

Just Rob 12-08-2006 03:56 PM

no clue... My Dogs like to lick up the duck poop off my dock. i yell at them cuz you know thier coming over to lick my hands next! little fuckers! :1orglaugh

here's another good link... http://www.cvm.uiuc.edu/petcolumns/s...cle.cfm?id=166

E$_manager 12-08-2006 03:57 PM

I heard that doing this is a signal that a dog has lack in some vitamin. But i forgot which one.

Just Rob 12-08-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11489973)
Oh damn, I'm sure if mine had access to duck poop they'd be all over that too, lol. We only have ducks in our lake twice a year and then only for a few days. THANK GOODNESS.

Adorable dogs :)


Thanks, they are such good dogs! Unless they see a small animal then they take off! lol little jerks

Sarah_Jayne 12-08-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11489955)
Don't they realize no one's going to come all the way to the house and we're safe??!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

They've always loved cat and deer poop, but I have more control over that. Deer won't jump the fence (well, they will, but not often) and the cat has her own room.

No kidding. Maybe pug poop is particularly tasty because Maggie has done the straight out of the ass thing too. What really bugs me is that she is such a picky eater with real dog food and I often have to feed her off my fingers but she turns Parker into a fudge factory.

Dvae 12-08-2006 04:09 PM

Time to call in Ceasar Milan

..
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...home_cesar.jpg

Your dog clearly has issues...

BV 12-08-2006 04:18 PM

Get a cat and they will eat it's shit instead.

Peaches 12-08-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Rob (Post 11489984)

Ah, that gives credence to my vet recommending the meat tenderizer:

Feeding the dog MSG, garlic, or pumpkin is believed to give feces a bad taste, making it less attractive to the dog.

If that doesn't work, I'll try the garlic or pumpkin. My yard is going to be an interesting laboratory for a while......

wyldblyss 12-08-2006 04:22 PM

Peaches, try buying "Apple Bitter" it is an all natural product sold at pet stores. Spray it on any poop you find. Most dogs will foam at the mouth after eating, or even licking something with apple bitter. They will avoid anything that has that taste at all costs.

They recommend it for things like electrical cords etc. We had a chewer once, chewed everything...sprayed some on our cords...dog never chewed them again, even ones that did not have apple bitter.

Peaches 12-08-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 11490149)
Get a cat and they will eat it's shit instead.

Oh, the cat has her own room thanks to their cat shit eating. That was from day 1 when I got them - almost 10 years ago.

They'd look at me with their flat faces covered in cat litter like "Who? Us??!!".

Peaches 12-08-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 11490181)
Peaches, try buying "Apple Bitter" it is an all natural product sold at pet stores. Spray it on any poop you find. Most dogs will foam at the mouth after eating, or even licking something with apple bitter. They will avoid anything that has that taste at all costs.

They recommend it for things like electrical cords etc. We had a chewer once, chewed everything...sprayed some on our cords...dog never chewed them again, even ones that did not have apple bitter.

I tried that and Tobasco when they were eating the cat poop. They LOVE Apple Bitter (and Tobasco), lol. It was like they were thanking me for the condiments!

But I will get some for Riley the puppy - he doesn't chew on the cords, but he likes to pull them out of their sockets and then pull whatever's attached to them across the room.

Never boring here......

Sarah_Jayne 12-08-2006 04:27 PM

I don't even want to imagine my dog's butt after hot sauce and garlic.

BitAudioVideo 12-08-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11490160)
Ah, that gives credence to my vet recommending the meat tenderizer:

Feeding the dog MSG, garlic, or pumpkin is believed to give feces a bad taste, making it less attractive to the dog.

If that doesn't work, I'll try the garlic or pumpkin. My yard is going to be an interesting laboratory for a while......


the garlic will also prevent fleas... not that this is a big flea time of year...

BitAudioVideo 12-08-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss (Post 11490181)
Peaches, try buying "Apple Bitter" it is an all natural product sold at pet stores. Spray it on any poop you find. Most dogs will foam at the mouth after eating, or even licking something with apple bitter. They will avoid anything that has that taste at all costs.

They recommend it for things like electrical cords etc. We had a chewer once, chewed everything...sprayed some on our cords...dog never chewed them again, even ones that did not have apple bitter.

i bought a big tube of bitter apple after my dog chewed up my phone. the dog chewed up everything i put the bitter apple on and then ate the tube which was still 1/2 full.

Peaches 12-08-2006 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo (Post 11490241)
the garlic will also prevent fleas... not that this is a big flea time of year...

True! Before they came out with Frontline I used to put brewer's yeast and garlic on my dog's (before these) food. Worked great :)

xecutech 12-08-2006 04:42 PM

Get a remote shock collar and zap him when you catch him doing it! He'll prolly stop after a few volts.... :)

HomeFry 12-08-2006 04:42 PM

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/spy.jpg

madawgz 12-08-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 11490075)
Time to call in Ceasar Milan

..
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...home_cesar.jpg

Your dog clearly has issues...

is that the dog whisperererer? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 12-08-2006 04:50 PM

My dog would actually have this craving for cat poop, I kid you not. Apparently there is something in it that they like.

I actually had to put my dog down last night. :( :(

Sarah_Jayne 12-08-2006 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11490336)
My dog would actually have this craving for cat poop, I kid you not. Apparently there is something in it that they like.

I actually had to put my dog down last night. :( :(

very sorry to hear that.

D-Money 12-08-2006 05:03 PM

My dogs get into the cat poop.

Pretty gross to see your dogs with kitty litter around their mouths.

I can't imagine what I would do to stop the fresh shit eating.

I think that dog trainer would say you need to keep catching them in the act of trying to eat the poop and yell no, pull them away with a dog choker at the same time. So you would actually put them into a scenerio where one poops and the other tries to eat it, then pull the choker and yell no. Maybe eventually that will work.

Good luck!

shekinah 12-08-2006 06:52 PM

Now I know, thanks for the head up now I know why:)

pornguy 12-08-2006 06:54 PM

vitamins get pet tabs.

zEn84 12-08-2006 06:59 PM

whats wrong with eating your own shit?

tranza 12-08-2006 07:07 PM

Lol, this thread is kind of funny...

Fluid 12-08-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11489857)
My 10 year old male started eating poop about 6 months ago. Not sure why, nothing's changed dietwise.

Now the new puppy is doing the same. He actually followed my 13 year old female outside and ATE IT AS IT CAME OUT! :throwup :throwup :throwup

I tried the Deter tablets when older dog started it and it didn't work. The vet suggested meat tenderizer. They didn't like it on their food so I bought the unseasoned kind and they still didn't like it.

I've mixed some up with water and I'm going to make it like a gravy tomorrow and see if they'll eat it then - AND if it works.

I have a decently sized fenced yard and with 4 dogs, it's impossible to cover all of it up with something. When I DO find some, I either toss it over the fence or douse it with cayenne pepper - the pepper I THINK is helping. But again, finding all the poop in the yard is near impossible.

Any suggestions?!!? (no, I'm not getting rid of the dogs....if I was going to do that it would have been when the puppy destroyed 4 chairs and a coffee table :disgust _

I trained a rottie to jump through fire, not wince from gunfire, bite and stop biting on command. Never could get the fucker not to graze on shit in the backyard. Never got a straight answer about it either other than it might be something missing from their diet (he was on Iams, prolly ate better than I do).

There is packets of stuff you can get to feed the female that makes her shit taste bad (this I can't understand..it could taste worse???) and if that doesn't work...muzzle him in the yard and see if it's something habitual.

I'm willing to bet it's hormonal. My male was fixed late (after he mated once), and the female never fixed, and he used to be worse with it in the fall and winter for some reason. Evertime I've heard of it, it's been a male dog doing the grazing and an intact bitch around.

Sarah_Jayne 12-09-2006 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluid (Post 11491143)
I trained a rottie to jump through fire, not wince from gunfire, bite and stop biting on command. Never could get the fucker not to graze on shit in the backyard. Never got a straight answer about it either other than it might be something missing from their diet (he was on Iams, prolly ate better than I do).

There is packets of stuff you can get to feed the female that makes her shit taste bad (this I can't understand..it could taste worse???) and if that doesn't work...muzzle him in the yard and see if it's something habitual.

I'm willing to bet it's hormonal. My male was fixed late (after he mated once), and the female never fixed, and he used to be worse with it in the fall and winter for some reason. Evertime I've heard of it, it's been a male dog doing the grazing and an intact bitch around.



Mine are two females but after her first heat the spaniel does try to hump the pug now and then

Peaches 12-09-2006 09:48 AM

All my dogs are neutered or spayed. The strangest thing was the two older ones starting to eat it a while back. After YEARS of acting like it was the grossest thing in the world. And they don't eat their own, lol. And then the female just quit. And my other female isn't eating it.

At first I thought maybe it was new treats I was giving them, so I started giving them the same dog food as treats. Still eating shit.

And genius here makes up a bowl of meat tenderizer to put on the food, and in the massive confusion that is 4 hungry pugs first thing in the AM, forgets to put it on the food.

DOH!

Thanks for the help. Just if you come over to visit, don't ask for doggie kisses!!!

Peaches 12-09-2006 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc (Post 11492679)
Mine are two females but after her first heat the spaniel does try to hump the pug now and then

You know, Ariel was fixed right after I got her (she was about 1.5 years old then). That was a year ago and now with the puppy, she humps him. Too funny.

I don't think I could ever live w/o a pet - they're just too much entertainment :)

L-Pink 12-09-2006 09:53 AM

Show him a photo of tub-girl while smacking him with a rolled-up newspaper.

Sarah_Jayne 12-09-2006 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11494282)
You know, Ariel was fixed right after I got her (she was about 1.5 years old then). That was a year ago and now with the puppy, she humps him. Too funny.

I don't think I could ever live w/o a pet - they're just too much entertainment :)


Mine are getting fixed in the new year when they are old enough for my vet to do them but my lord it was embarrassing the first time Maggie mounted Parker and started humping. Not only because we have a guest but also because she mounted the wrong end!

Peaches 12-09-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc (Post 11494299)
Mine are getting fixed in the new year when they are old enough for my vet to do them but my lord it was embarrassing the first time Maggie mounted Parker and started humping. Not only because we have a guest but also because she mounted the wrong end!

Well, don't be so sure....

When I just had Meg and Ferd and Meg decided the playing was over, she'd bite the hell out his pecker.

When I got Ariel, she wasn't fixed and Ferd just LOVED that and spent the next month lavishing her hind end with lovin'. After she was spayed, she wasn't getting the attention she was used to and still constantly sticks her nunu in his face trying to get a reaction.

Ariel also nips at Riley's pecker when she's had enough.

I think they know where everything's located, lol.

Will they not fix them early there? I've seen them do it as young as 4 months here. I waited 6 months for Riley since he had so many health problems as a puppy. Ferd was about a year when I got him and had already developed some bad habits. It's kinda funny - with his bad back legs and Riley not knowing any better, all my dogs squat to pee :winkwink:

The ******* picture might excite them!! :helpme

gfyworldnews 12-09-2006 12:00 PM

Listen hick, nobody gives a shit about your ugly, skanky ass pugs. Pour some leftover deck sealer down their throats and put them out of their misery.

tony286 12-09-2006 12:02 PM

man, I have no right to be bothered when my dogs eat grass. lol

Sarah_Jayne 12-09-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11494703)
Will they not fix them early there? I've seen them do it as young as 4 months here. I waited 6 months for Riley since he had so many health problems as a puppy. Ferd was about a year when I got him and had already developed some bad habits. It's kinda funny - with his bad back legs and Riley not knowing any better, all my dogs squat to pee :winkwink:

The ******* picture might excite them!! :helpme

Our vet says he likes to wait until 10 months. Parker is just 11 months now and Maggie has just turned 10 months. Parker was just about 10 months when hers stopped but the vet wanted to make sure it was over (said during heat was more of a risk) and Maggie wasn't even 9 months. So, we have to decided to wait until after the holidays and have them both done on the same day. That way when I have to starve one before hand I can do it with them both and not feed one and feel cruel.

Peaches 12-09-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gfyworldnews (Post 11494862)
Listen hick, nobody gives a shit about your ugly, skanky ass pugs. Pour some leftover deck sealer down their throats and put them out of their misery.

Well, they were WEARING deck sealer for awhile, does that count? :)

And misery? People have said when they die they want to come back as one of my pugs, lol.

If you're upset you don't have one of your own, check your local pug rescue group. Let us know if it eats shit :thumbsup

E$_manager 12-09-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zEn84 (Post 11490977)
whats wrong with eating your own shit?

Nothing. It's a normal shit! :1orglaugh


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