American traitor Lindh pleads guilty
 

I just saw in breaking news, that the Fuckstain Johnny Walker Lindh, the "American Taliban" plead guilty to 2 lesser crimes and will do about 20 years in prison.

What do you guys think? Justice or not? Personally I don't think it's enough. People get 20 years for stupid pissant stuff over here, he committed treason and conspired to and in fact probably did murder americans and gets 20. Oh well it is a pretty long time though. Hey Walker Lindh, heres to you :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

he can be out after 17...but that is still a long time...dont really see the point of locking up a person for his whole life.

I agree it is a long time. I think the point of it though, is to hopefully deter others from doing the same thing in the future.

Dude, there no deterrent for moving to Afghanistran and joining the taliban. If thats what you feel you need to do, then nothing will stop you. Afghanistan is far worse than prison or death.

Gotta watch Law & Order

they only give deals when they are unsure of a victory

what did he do?
He fought in a war.
But he didn't fought on the US side so he's gotta go to prison?
this country is getting weirder and weirder every day

Most countries frown upon their citizens fighting against them in a war.

are you for real?

Go back to sleep
In most countries if you are a citizen fighting against your own country, you'd be dead by now.

He's one lucky S.O.B

Yeah i agree with you, but he knew the US law and he could change citizenship (right?) and therefore not be able to get charged as a traitor.

someone should cut his balls off

what about the 4 guys that killed that jew reporter? 3 of them got life and 1 of them got death by hanging... that was a brutal crime...all those motherfuckers should be dead...

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what about the 4 guys that killed that jew reporter? 3 of them got life and 1 of them got death by hanging... that was a brutal crime...all those motherfuckers should be dead...
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Yeah, I saw that video, nastiest fucking thing I have ever seen.
They have 2 chances of appeal, so who knows..

Its pakistan I bet you those moron will get off it

I don't usually find myself in agreement with Gary, but I have got to admit - there isn't really much that a prison sentence is going to do to deter people that want to fight in this manner.

Gee 20 years, I am going - now if he had gotten life - well then I should not.

Fact is - this guy was a nobody. If it wasn't for the fact he was American - nobody would know or care who he was.

If you TRULY believe your god is supporting what you are doing - then why would anything deter you?

It is kind of like trying to disuade someone that really believes amway will help you to get rich. Just doesn't work.

LOL aint that the truth

yeah, but do think this guy's really going to live that long in prison?

I have a feeling he'll get bathroom cleanup duty and the guards will "look the other way" while he gets pummelled with a plunger a la Jeffery Dahmer............

Prison Justice...gotta love it ;)

He probably won't be released into the general population, as they are aware that "everyone" will be out to get him.

he should be locked in a room, with animal urine spilled all over him, and Gary in the room...
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he'd learn the hard way

Should have killed him.. A public hanging would have been much better... bunch of pussies

I have yet to see a shred of evidence indicating thats what he actually did or intended to do. I think his Lawyers were silly for copping a plea, because unless the gov't has some evidence its been withholding, they should have been able to get him off on the conspiracy stuff.

Bottom line: If the gov't had the evidence to support those charges they would not have accepted a plea offer.

Lindh's lawyers probably plead it down because they thought it would be almost impossible to find an unpredjudiced jury in light of the fact that champions of "justice" like Assooooo covicted him in the press before he even arrived in the US. And again, I think they did it intentionally because they knew even then that they did not have evidence to convict him of the most serious charges before an unbiased jury.

Maybe you should move to Afghanistan and live with the Taliban too, it sounds like you share some of their beliefs about how to run a country. :)

So he was in Afghanistan on vacation?

I've heard it's lovely, take your whole family.
There's goats, sand and bearded men. Family fun.

There is no question he went to Afghanistan and joined the Taliban, but there aren't much in the way of laws to punish misguided teenagers who run off to fight with fundamentalist Islamic regimes. The most serious charge is conspiracy to kill americans, and it is that which I don't think they have any real evidence for.

Lindh joined the Taliban as a foot soldier long before the United States came into conflict with them, and it is far from clear that he was willing to conspire with them to commit murder against US military personell after the conflict began.

Conspiracy to commit murder is extrordinarily difficult to prove unless someone is caught in the act or a person credible enough to convince a Jury flips and becomes a Gov't witness. They don't either in this case.

In my opinion any member of al-qaeda is guilty just for living.

Maybe you shouldnt speak untill spoken too.. it seems that would save everyone the time of listening to your dribble.

Support for public exectutions, a hatred of free speech, what next, all women should have to wear veils? :)

Funny, thats precisely what Al Qaeda believes about US citizens.

20 years of being ass fucked multiple times a day in jail is a small price to pay for what he did.

Glad I was able to start a nice little squabble on here, Makes me feel all warm and tender! :Graucho

Seriously though, the argumant that it prison won't deter is weak in my opinion. Maybe there should be no punishments for any crimes at all. Obviously it isn't working since people are still going to prison, right?

I don't see the difference. Maybe it won't deter MOST terrorist assholes, but that doesn't mean it still shouldn't be illegal. If laws against murder never deter a single murder, it should STILL be illegal.

In my not so humble opinion :winkwink:

By the way, on top of the 20 years, I think the nutcase should have to do his time with a pig in his jail cell. A nice live pig. :Graucho

The US government is guilty of far worse than this Walker-Lindh character. He's just a fall guy who will be punished to appease the bloodlust of the US public. What a joke.

You like twisting shit dont you little man..

A traitor is a traitor is a traitor, no more no less. If the soldiers who picked him up had there way he would be dead, and i just happen to agree with it. Take your veil and put it on, it wont benefit me but maybe it will help you get laid more.

It's obvious that some of you have done exactly what the govt wanted Americans to do... Try, convict, and sentence a guy that wanted to help wipe out drug dealers..
Gotta love the media.. Tell the folks what the govt wants you to hear and gain a following...

Before you go throwing the rope over the tree limb, do a little reading on your own and don't depend strictly on what the media and ashc......... says..

I'm amazed at how everyone slams Ash... when it comes to the porn industry with, "He doesn't know what he's talking about!", but with this situation, he's all of a sudden right on target..

This guy was branded a traitor before anyone knew anything, simply because of his associations, which were NOT America's enemies when he joined them. He had NO plans to kill Americans.. The 9/11 deal changed things over there and he was caught up in it.
Did he conspire to kill Americans? NO PROOF.. His association proves nothing because he was there before there was an enemy.. He was there fighting AGAINST our enemy, the Northern Alliance.
All of a sudden the U.S. changes enemies and now he's a traitor.. simply for that reason and no other.. If you or anyone else can prove otherwise, which hasn't been done by anyone, then bring on the proof.. Otherwise you have no qualifications for slamming people who don't agree with this 'traitor' stuff.
Don't be so convinced that cnn is a knower of all truth.. Afterall.. they, among most other big news networks said "GORE WINS" because, again, they jumped the gun before they really knew...

So.. go ahead and say I should hang with him so you can "feel like an American" ... I too am a citizen of this country and unlike most of you, joined the service long ago to do my part. How many of you young guys are up to doing that? I'm thinking NONE.. "Let others do it so I can sit on my ass and bitch because my xbox is broken."

Non of the original counts against him were that of being charged as a traitor. The two counts that he entered a guilty plea are not those of being a traitor.

Question: Where do you get the charge of being a traitor?

He heard that word mentioned on the news, so that made it so.

I read in the CNN health section today that over 110 million Americans are obese or overweight.

I say instead of a war on terrorism we need a war on FAT FUCKS. KILL 'EM ALL!

Its a glandular problem :1orglaugh

Nah dude... they're just big-boned! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You brought up a great example of how someone can become something out of nowhere...

In 1998 the govt adopted a new definition of 'obese', and because the govt changed the guidelines, millions more people are all of a sudden obese.

Just as the govt changed enemies and now there's a traitor.

go figger!

I can beat if he was arab or arab looking he would of not been given that deal