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Oracle Porn 11-01-2006 03:40 AM

Almost 5 years in this fucking business and I can't understand....
 
HOW THE FUCK can the same traffic 1 day convert 1:700 and the other day conver 1:2500...how is this possible?

MrMaxwell 11-01-2006 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 11207337)
HOW THE FUCK can the same traffic 1 day convert 1:700 and the other day conver 1:2500...how is this possible?


Well,
Are you an affiliate?
Shaving... possible?

Also, the idiots there today ain't the same idiots who were there yesterday.. well, most of them..

bobby666 11-01-2006 03:45 AM

maybe it has something to do with the increase of sunspots

mrthumbs 11-01-2006 03:46 AM

i thought so to.. tech errors.. shaving etc.. but for the last years since im running my own stuff 100% i still have days like that. Just a cominbation of many factors that SOME days end up in a statistical nightmare.

mrthumbs 11-01-2006 03:54 AM

here, ive made a little simulation based on a random generator:

This example assumes 50.000 hits are sent DAILY to a program converting 1:500.

You see how results vary some days..

www.mcredits.com/rand.php

DWB 11-01-2006 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 11207337)
HOW THE FUCK can the same traffic 1 day convert 1:700 and the other day conver 1:2500...how is this possible?

No shit. I get twisted thinking about that exact thing. One day I will kick total ass and think "shit, if it stays like this all week I'm gonna clean house" and then the next day it's as if all my pages were 404s.

When you figure it out, hit me up please.

Theo 11-01-2006 04:00 AM

nice script man

mrthumbs 11-01-2006 04:03 AM

See what happens when you send smaller amounts of traffic.
For example:

25000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=25000

10000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=10000

5000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=5000

With 5000 per day youll go from 1:200 to 1:1500 or so..

Secret to low conversions: LOTSA TRAFFIC ;)

Internet Guy 11-01-2006 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs (Post 11207416)
here, ive made a little simulation based on a random generator:

exactly, nice work.

Violetta 11-01-2006 05:35 AM

It's just like that from time to time! Yesterday was GREAT! Some days before that SUCKED!

en21 11-01-2006 05:37 AM

try to get more SE traffic... It converts better

andrej_NDC 11-01-2006 05:41 AM

Do you think regular shops have make the same $$$ every day? They may have the same amount of people going in every day, but profit varies a lot. The less traffic you have, the more it varies.

andrej_NDC 11-01-2006 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs (Post 11207441)
See what happens when you send smaller amounts of traffic.
For example:

25000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=25000

10000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=10000

5000 hits per day:
http://www.mcredits.com/rand.php?hits=5000

With 5000 per day youll go from 1:200 to 1:1500 or so..

Secret to low conversions: LOTSA TRAFFIC ;)


Thats a great tool. :thumbsup

LB-69 11-01-2006 05:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 11207337)
HOW THE FUCK can the same traffic 1 day convert 1:700 and the other day conver 1:2500...how is this possible?

In our case the convertions never go up and down much, however ammount of sales can vary from day to day. Sometimes it double itself from the previous day, one of my affiliates told me that hundreds of reasons out there for such a divercity. Weather, politics, sports, hollidays etc etc. Still it makes this unable to calculate and predict exactly your future earnings.

pigman 11-01-2006 07:27 AM

Cause it varies.

Tom_PM 11-01-2006 07:33 AM

Yes. Simple as that. Because it varies. Show me a retail store that has the same number and dollar amount of sales per day. It's not possible :)

Have you been spreadsheeting your sales and traffic by day? week? month? hour? The more data you compile as you go, the easier it is to predict somewhat sales trends. Plus it'll give you somewhat of a general range and you'll know better when there is a statistically significant rise or fall.

I think we often forget that we're dealing with people, and people are fickle as hell. Impulsive, emotional, quick to judge etc etc. Sometimes sales are great and it's hard to explain. Some days they just suck and it's hard to explain. But it's rare to actually have a statistically significant deviation from established norms.

Matt 26z 11-01-2006 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 11207337)
HOW THE FUCK can the same traffic 1 day convert 1:700 and the other day conver 1:2500...how is this possible?

If 1:700 is the best you are doing, then I'd change sponsors anyway. That ratio is really bad.

fukt 11-01-2006 08:26 AM

Theres a load of variables. Its just the way it goes.

OG LennyT 11-01-2006 08:29 AM

Heres your answer, go back to business school.

vvq 11-01-2006 11:18 AM

increase your data range. day to day of course there are going to be swings. examine month to month, year to year for accurate conversion ratios.

squishypimp 11-01-2006 11:20 AM

your dealing with free minded people, market trends, etc.

MandyBlake 11-01-2006 11:21 AM

different people...also just because someone has looked at your site before and not joined, doesn't mean they won't look at it again and join.

andrej_NDC 11-01-2006 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB-69 (Post 11208015)
In our case the convertions never go up and down much, however ammount of sales can vary from day to day.

One thing contradicts the other. :)

Kimmykim 11-01-2006 11:35 AM

The law of averages is constant only when there is enough data to actually calculate a real ratio.

Manowar 11-01-2006 02:38 PM

They will always vary day to day, i think its a rule in this industry now LOL

LB-69 11-01-2006 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 11210226)
One thing contradicts the other. :)

Nothing is conradict...lets say the ratios yesterday and today is around 1:300 with, but yesterday was 70 joins and today only 35...

Dollarmansteve 11-01-2006 02:50 PM

#1. cuz its not the 'same' traffic.

#2. Volatility over time.

Case 1

[img]http://www.contingencyanalysis.com/glossary/images/ex1_volatility.gif[img]

Case 2

http://www.contingencyanalysis.com/g...volatility.gif

t (case 1) < t (case 2)

sickkittens 11-01-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigman (Post 11208540)
Cause it varies.

Way to explain that one.

chaze 11-01-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 11211734)
#1. cuz its not the 'same' traffic.

#2. Volatility over time.

Case 1

[img]http://www.contingencyanalysis.com/glossary/images/ex1_volatility.gif[img]

Case 2

http://www.contingencyanalysis.com/g...volatility.gif

t (case 1) < t (case 2)

WTF :1orglaugh


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