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Sly 10-26-2006 10:55 AM

Are handguns legal in France?
 
I always thought handguns would be illegal in France.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/...urban_violence
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About 10 attackers ? five of them with handguns ? stormed a bus in Montreuil east of Paris early Thursday and forced the passengers off, the RATP transport authority said. They then drove off and set the bus on fire.
Anybody know?

rvincent 10-26-2006 11:10 AM

They aren't. Most firearms require a specific reasons to be legally owned (like a hunting licence to own a hunting gun, etc...)

Sly 10-26-2006 11:12 AM

Ah. So as I expected, these attackers illegally had weapons. Of course.

polish_aristocrat 10-26-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11160656)
Ah. So as I expected, these attackers illegally had weapons. Of course.

in trolling mood today? :)

Sly 10-26-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11160668)
in trolling mood today? :)

Only to those that understand. :-)

ryuken 10-26-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 11160515)
I always thought handguns would be illegal in France.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/...urban_violence


Anybody know?

They are illegal, an honest law abiding citizen cannot protect himself and his family.

Only the criminals are armed.

Great placed to live.

Gunni 10-27-2006 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuken (Post 11160730)
They are illegal, an honest law abiding citizen cannot protect himself and his family.

Only the criminals are armed.

Great placed to live.

Both in France and Spain, actually in most European countries you can legally buy firearms if you go through the right channels. If you are afraid of someone braking into your house and shooting you and your family (most Europeans aren't since it happens very rarely) you could buy a gun. We don't get them free for opening bank accounts or anything like that.
The easiest weapon to get in Europe is a shotgun as it is the weapon mostly used for hunting birds and rabbits, incidentally it is also probably the most effective weapon to defend your home. Someone with a hand gun is much more likely to miss his target than someone with a shotun.

baddog 10-27-2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuken (Post 11160730)
Only the criminals are armed.

Funny how that works

Webby 10-27-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 11165230)
Both in France and Spain, actually in most European countries you can legally buy firearms if you go through the right channels. If you are afraid of someone braking into your house and shooting you and your family (most Europeans aren't since it happens very rarely) you could buy a gun. We don't get them free for opening bank accounts or anything like that.
The easiest weapon to get in Europe is a shotgun as it is the weapon mostly used for hunting birds and rabbits, incidentally it is also probably the most effective weapon to defend your home. Someone with a hand gun is much more likely to miss his target than someone with a shotun.

Correct Gunni - also results in very low deaths by firearms. The exception is Switzerland where guns are in almost every household - tho deaths by firearms could be counted on one hand.

TheJimmy 10-27-2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuken (Post 11160730)
They are illegal, an honest law abiding citizen cannot protect himself and his family.

Only the criminals are armed.

Great placed to live.

totally ...

Antonio 10-27-2006 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11165267)
The exception is Switzerland where guns are in almost every household ....


that's because they don't have an army per se, they have about 20 or so people (+- few thousand) that get 5 and a half minutes training and then they have to take their machine guns home and defend the country in case of an invasion

I find the whole thing a bit pointless because even the tiniest African country will defeat them in a day max, not to mention that there are probably more guns in the average South African school than in the whole of Switzerland :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Gunni 10-27-2006 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11165267)
Correct Gunni - also results in very low deaths by firearms. The exception is Switzerland where guns are in almost every household - tho deaths by firearms could be counted on one hand.

Yes, and what the Swiss have gained from that is the highest ratio in the world of men killing their families and then blowing their own brains out
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A study by the Swiss National Science Foundation (SNSF), which examined murders in cantons Vaud, Fribourg, Valais and Neuchâtel since 1980, shows that this phenomenon is particularly acute in Switzerland.

It found that family killings account for 58 per cent of all murders ? a figure substantially higher than in the Netherlands (29 per cent) and the United States (20 per cent).
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/top_new...=1146687704000

Webby 10-27-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 11165743)
that's because they don't have an army per se, they have about 20 or so people (+- few thousand) that get 5 and a half minutes training and then they have to take their machine guns home and defend the country in case of an invasion

I find the whole thing a bit pointless because even the tiniest African country will defeat them in a day max, not to mention that there are probably more guns in the average South African school than in the whole of Switzerland :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sure.. military service is almost part of tradition in Switzerland. Who knows, estimates vary - there are well over 1 mill to possibly 3 million assault weapons in homes - plus hell knows how many small arms. Odd that a high per capita gun country has a very low gun death problem.

Pointless? Maybe :winkwink: Little chance of Switzerland being invaded now, tho they have had centuries of defending themselves. The difference in S.A. appears to be they keep shooting each other :)

BTW.. Every noticed the countries who don't have an army or "defense", rarely get invaded or aggression? (Not referring to Switzerland) Can think of one such country where a neighbor did threaten (tho bullshit) - within 30 mins the main airport had requests to land fighter jets from other nations to defend it and international threats against the aggressor. Noticeable, and still raises a smile in the population even now, was the telegram of support from the US :pimp

Webby 10-27-2006 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 11165817)
Yes, and what the Swiss have gained from that is the highest ratio in the world of men killing their families and then blowing their own brains out

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/top_new...=1146687704000

In fact... I'll take that stuff about firearms deaths back - it's not that good. The number of intentional gun deaths is 6.2 per 100,000 - and definately the worst in the main Euro countries - followed by France at 5.4, Austria 4.4, Norway 4.2, Belgium 3.3, Denmark 2.4, Sweden 2.2, Germany 1.4, Spain 0.7, England/Wales 0.4 blah. The comparative for the US is 13.4.

Freaky stat on family killings, but not unusual for suicides by shooting - it's a major element in the US stats.

baddog 10-27-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 11165743)
that's because they don't have an army per se, they have about 20 or so people (+- few thousand) that get 5 and a half minutes training and then they have to take their machine guns home and defend the country in case of an invasion

I find the whole thing a bit pointless because even the tiniest African country will defeat them in a day max, not to mention that there are probably more guns in the average South African school than in the whole of Switzerland :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

hmmm, my Swiss buddy would probably disagree with you since service in the army is mandatory.

free4porn 10-27-2006 01:50 PM

not in france


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