Do you have the balls to ban AFF/Cams from your sites?
 

I can understand if you've invested a lot of time into building up lots of advertising material or sites that promote them.. I'd have a hard time as well..

However, I'm sure there are a shit load of WMs that don't have a lot of time and effort invested in it. And those that have a lot of stuff invested in them, could just stop expanding the promotion of them and use alternatives. So are you going to ban/drop them from your sites?

a good majority of GFY will publicly say they did, but in reality didnt.

i stopped promoting AFF along time ago

Nope, AFF will be staying on my pages.
I've tried numerous other dating sites and AFF always came ahead.
Wish "One & Only" was still around they kicked ass until match.com bought them out... and kicked me out of the program due to adult sites.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1...nnedaffni1.jpg

thats a screenshot of my CPX Interactive Inventory, and arrows pointing to the Passions.com (Friend Finder, Inc.) banners, and the check boxes associating with being Banned from showing in my rotation.

to answer your question, yes i have the balls...

This be zango related?

what happened? I missed all the drama I guess :(

for me its the fact that they openly admit to buying target words on zango, and they don't care if their sales come from sites that promote pirated material and stole members area....

Don't forget guys, you're all sheep!

Haha.

i am going to take it one step further. i aint gonna send a fuckin click to any adult sponsor anymore i will just do my own shit. All my domains have cams in them so evertime they just click my domain a fuckin zango ad appears.

sly while you are in this thread who do i contact about closeing my hosting account out. Nothin agaisnt you guys service has been nothing but great for last 2 years. Just no need for the account no more.

And a big FUCKYOU to Aff, cams.com and sexseach :action-sm

Just show them who to use instead.. if it converts anywhere near the same then I doubt it really matters whether they're using AFF or DatingGold for example.

Why don't we have a nice stock chat instead??

Just email me and I'll take care of it.

There's some good alternatives :) How about IWantU or Pussycash? :)

My dating sites are doing very well, I pay $40 per $1 trial join. Just redesigned the Cheating Housewife Dating site, it is doing very well, check it out. Try me out for a week, and you will never go back to the others. :)

I stopped promoting AFF.

who is AFF ?

i never promoted AFF. does that count !?

why not try an alternative source of revenue? see my sig!

If another program could convert as well then maybe, but atm even with the "Zango tax" I'm sure AFF would come out way ahead.

I kicked cams.com cos it stoped converting for me not because of zango

AFF is by far the best dating sponsor, i must think about it...

a bump for more info

I am working on removing them from my network of sites.

Them having used Zango in the past was bad enough, but Lars comming forward saying that it will continue and telling us to go fuck ourself, is too much for me - their links are comming down, slowly but surely.

Cams.com is a great cam site. Lots of hot girls. Quality cams. Well designed. Fast loading. They have really good promo tools and content.

I don?t see a better cam site for surfers.

I don?t want to promote them because I think they are gaining huge exposure at the webmasters expense. Free non paid no cc sign ups.

I?m using streamate right now, who is the best alternative for webmasters to promote?

AFF pays us good money for advertising so probably not :winkwink:

Cams.com is by far my worst converting cam site.

Indeed, if they trained their models to lure in new customers instead of just chatting with the guys that have credits, it would fucking rock.

Hehe.

Victim: Officer, that man just stole my car and ran over my child!

Officer: Don't be such a sheep!

I realize that. Why don?t you read it again.

I said it is great for surfers. Not so great for webmasters. Cams.com would convert if the site wasn?t a huge live video gallery post.

I can tell you that VideoSecrets does awesome for us, they say their average members spends about $2000-2200 in a year and thus far that's pretty close from our stats :thumbsup

AFF can burn in hell as far as I'm concerned.

Bought some KSWS 2 days ago. up 16% today. :thumbsup

You really should check out ImLive.. Hot girls.. cool promos for the surfers etc... If they fix some of their technical issues I see, I feel that they can become number 1. Especially if you promote niches. When it comes to niches, ImLive is almost to the point of exceeding even clickcash in terms of quality and number of web hosts.

I stopped promoting them after they came public and all but stated they support illegal content sites, the zango issue was just a nail in the coffin

videosecrets and imlive do great for me these days

Lars seems like a really great guy though, I hate to see someone that nice being FORCED to use a service like ZANGO...FREE LEGENDARY LARS!

cams and especially dating stopped converting for me past few months.

AFF is one of my best sponsors... I would have to think about it...

Wonder if it's related to Zango.

The smart affiliate leaves AFF when they don't make money with AFF not when Will or someone else tells them they aren't making money.

Or when they find you hijacking their traffic and taking advantage of their marketing efforts via your Zango ads.

I send all my dating traffic to dating gold :thumbsup

No the smart affiliate looks at the industry 12 months down the line and thinks about the effect of what he does today and it's effects in a years time or even further.

Is adware bad for the affiliate? I think thats a big yes.

Is it bad for the industry? Not heard any debate on that.

Are you guys using VideoSecrets with member area traffic? With free site traffic I have made sales with every cam sponsor I've tried, except for Flirt4Free, I never made a fucking cent with them. :(

no i dont have nearly enough traffic to be affected by that. I like to keep my traffic small and quality.

We have tried btoh, and yes we do wayyyy better on member area traffic. Free converts a lot less, but when they do, they still retain and spend like crazy :)

That's the biggest load of self-serving crap I have read today. So you are actually going to control the amount of traffic you divert from affiliates, so it doesn't hurt too much? And what, let's pretend affiliates don't sell for other sponsors and that they aren't also losing some of that traffic to you and the others who support scumware?

The only reason ANY affiliate would work with you right now, big or small I don't care, is if he has no more long-term business sense than your boss is showing and as little self-respect.

I've mostly dropped AFF for IwantU... still some changes to be had.