US Plans on Invading Iraq...
 

Not only that but with land, air and sea forces..

And from the North, South and West..

They're not fucking around.

... now that´s news ... where were you hiding for the past 2 years ??

Sadam wouldn't let weapons inspectors inspect, bush says he isn't going to wait to see what Iraq has.

Umm...it actually is news..

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/05/ira...eut/index.html

Posted 11:41 am today..

So go fuck yourself

whatever happened to capturing Osama?
Shouldn't that be the #1 priority?

Gave up looking for him?

WW3 is upon us... Sadam won't go out like a pussy

He is hanging with Sadam they will get them both at ounce:1orglaugh

why invade. we should nuke.

who will miss them?

They are idiots.
if they cant capture osama what makes you think they can capture saddam.

they are just gonna make him run and hide somewhere.

All this media attention is fucking stupid.
just go in there wipe them out, then let CNN have the story

Sadam is a pussy! Just like his "armed forces"!

LOL!

:ak47: Iraq

Even if Iraq does have nukes they don't have the means to deliever them, with their PS2 technology

I personally know a sniper who had Sadam in the crosshairs during the gulf war and couldn't get the order to fire -- it too bad.

We want him gone -- he's gone... no doubt about it!

These poor families that lost people in 911, it's bad enough that their loved ones died horrible painful deaths but nothing was fucking done about it. We freed a bunch of Afgan people.

um..yay

what about the people who did this to us? No fucking retribution, just "he's in hiding somewhere. Oh and watch your back because there are thousands of cells waiting to stike when you least expect it. And since theres nothing we can do about it we're going to go after another Sadam. Have a nice day"

LOL,,, did you say the samething in Desert Storm?

or maybe after 10 years Iraq's armed forces got better soldiers,,

you must of forget their superior scud missiles
not to mention their great Air Force
(if they can get them off the ground):1orglaugh


i'd just be worried more with terrorist attacks here in the states

Since Xbox came out, Iraq's forces are more advanced

Yeah true but shit seems a hell of a lot different now...People are getting desperate for their "cause"... As soon as 1 country goes nuclear,and it will happen eventually,be prepared...
With all the technology now you don't think an event can take place 5x's more devastating than any other war?... it will happen and most likely will happen to the U.S. if anybody...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in233586.shtml

... so where have you been hiding, smartfuck ?

so you mean it will take MORE than four days to waste this jack-off?

That says nothing about attacking by land, air and sea, yes it is old news about invading Iraq. But the report about attacking by land air and sea and from the North, South, and West is new.

That is just contingency plans. Hell we even got those made in case we ever need to invade Canada.

I fear it is Shrub's re-election plans. Before Sept. 11th Shrub was a 1 term president with no mandate, questions about the legitimacy of his administration, and an approval rating in the low 50's. Afterwards he became Shrub the Magnificent, protector and defender of the free world. The only political talent he has shown is the ability to use the patriotism arising from Sept. 11th to stifle dissent and debate over his administrations failings in pretty much every other area of domestic and international policy.

Unfortunately that Sept. 11th political capital is running out. His approval ratings are again falling, and people are beginning to speak openly about the large number of non-combatant Afghan civillians that have been mistakenly killed in this "war." This wouldn't be so bad if there were tangible positive results. So far the progress consists of the Taliban being replaced with an only slightly less repressive group of Islamic fundamentalists.

We all should remember what happened to Bush Sr. 10 years ago. His ratings soared after the Gulf War for a year, then died, and he lost the election over policy issues 2 years later. Shrub apparently learned from that. When his ability to flog this "war" for votes and ratings points fails, he'll just start another one.

But maybe I'm just cynical! :winkwink:

Thats the truth.

So I take it none of you were listening when everyone and their mother who was in a position to know said this had the potential to be an operation that went on for years, right?

Maybe the rest of the world is right...Americans are stupid people with no ability to last in a long conflict. They want everything tidied up and done in 2 months, and if it's not they'll start whining about how nothing is being done.

God damn it why can't we just hurry the fuck up and take over the world:feels-hot









J/K :winkwink:

and a couple days back they say they caught his stepson entering the us illegally to go to flight school. gee.

Welll.. its arguable they said that because they knew in advance this operation was going to turn into the giant clusterfuck that it has. But, the people demanded something be blown up, so something had to be blown up, dammit! And after blowing up mounds of dirt, afghan civillians, and making some noise, they find out what everyone knew all along - the only way to catch a guy who lives in caves and has tens of thousands of square miles of the harshest, most remote wilderness on earth in which to hide is to wait for him to fuck up or die.

The death toll to Afghan civillians is going to be the death knell for this one, not the length of time. There is *alot* of that sort of stuff that has yet to be widely publicized.

It's also arguable that they said it because...well..they knew it would be a long operation and they didn't want the country looking for a 2 month war. :winkwink:

Plenty of things *had* to be blown up. Al Qaeda and the Taliban did have a number of military targets that required destruction. They were destroyed.

What people are failing to remember is the magnitude of this entire operation. It's a lot more than flying to Afghanistan and dropping a bomb on Bin Laden's head after he puts his big, bad guy, black hat on so we can see him easily.

Al Qaeda was spread throughout the world. It involved squeezing them in every way possible, from killing their funding, to seizing their assets, to removing their asylums, to destroying what little military they had, to all kinds of crap. It was a large, complex operation.

Watching CNN doesn't give anyone a true glimpse of everything that is going on, and anyone who thinks they know the whole situation from that little stream of info is nuts.

Our military is trained well and provided with top notch equipment...it doesn't mean everything gets done in a day. I'm more than willing to let the people who are trained to do this shit, do it, and have a little patience in the meantime.

kill em all, let god sort em out.

Did you *read* the article? It's all hearsay. There's no way they're going to tip their hand like that.

"Citing a person familiar with the document, the newspaper said the highly classified plan calls for air, land and sea-based forces to attack from three directions in a campaign to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein......."

I realize the White House leaks what they want to be published, but to give this information about the hows and wheres is a bit much I'd think..

All possibly true. What bothers me most is that the Bush administration and its allies have aggressively exploited patriotism and nationalistic sentiment to completely stifle the democratic process of discussion and debate on this issue. No elected official can say a thing for fear of the administration and its right wing nutso allies screaming about any discussion giving "aid and comfort to our enemies", as DeLay put it after Tom Daschle voiced some very mild concern a couple of months ago. That is the root of every sort of tyranny.

Hermann Goering said it best:

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hush, you unpatriotic commie. :winkwink:

Actually, I agree with most of that. I don't like a lot of things Bush said during this whole period. But I'm also not about to second guess the military.

Rag on the way politicians do things? I'm there. I love bashing politicians. They all say stupid shit, and most of them are dumb opportunists with the collective backbone of a jellyfish.

Rag on the military blowing up some people in Afghanistan or not having killed Bin Laden already? I'm not there. It happens during military conflicts, I couldn't do any better if I was there, and I'm happy as hell someone else is off fighting so I don't have to. I will always support the military, and except in cases of EXTREME negligence (bombing London by mistake for example), I'm not really too quick to jump on people who are out there risking their lives while I sit on my ass behind a computer.

They ran out of places to look for him. Last I heard, they were looking up GWBs asshole to see if he crawled up there (for security reasons, they said they were "looking for cancer". http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/...sts/index.html)
Fair enuff too, since GWB wouldn't know if his ass was on fire - let alone if Osama's hiding there...

One of the most intelligent pieces about America I've read in a long time...

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/issue_j...llerstein.html

It is a clever article, but provides misinformation and wrong headed conclusions, which makes the article not useful.

Osama will not develop nukes in next couple of years

You never know when a technique to extract weapons grade Uranium from camel dung will be perfected!

How else are the americans going to attack? This doesn't reveal anything, it just says "we may attack you, so be prepared". Wow that's not news to Saddam, he obviously knew he was goign to be attacked some day or the other.

I agree. Not because I really do agree, but because anyone willing to wade through that lifeforce draining suckhole of an article gets a credibility bump from me.

:thumbsup

For everyone else, here is the "For Idiots" version:

US power is waning, and has been for some time. Only hawk strategy lunatics disagree. The japanese built a really, really powerful computer. See! I told you so!

Therefore, the US will continue to decline, so descend gracefully, dammit!

btw, that's a fairly common thing to do.

Make the enemy spread his defense out to try and cover every conceivable point of attack. It spreads the defense out, weakening every point(s) of attack you actually intend on using.

Now instead of just stocking up on air defense (for example), he has to try and use his limited resources to cover everything, which makes attacking certain things easier.

You are correct. It is a common tactic to make the enemy think you are going to do one thing when in fact you are going to do something different.

If you recall in the Gulf War, Marines were kept off of the coast, and a lot of press covered this, making Sadam's forces think that they would make a landing when the ground war started. This tied down alot of Sadam's forces, while the "Hail Mary" end run was made.

White House Downplays Iraaq Invasion Report

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/05/wh.iraq/index.html

Expected.

Did you bother to check the date???? It's two years old! Catch Up!
Iraq has in the last six months accepted Kuait. For good reason!

While I think we can do better. It's not like we aren't catching these assholes around the world. And cutting off their funding where ever possible. We are making progress, and will continue to.

LOL.....

Keep hoping we know better!

Iraq is a complete joke that relys on outdated Russian hardware, why do you think that Russia keeps supporting them? Because they don't want their Migs, and Scuds (LMAO) tested against a real military force.

Let's not forget that the "NATIONAL GUARD" is a joke, and the Iraqi Army surrendered to CNN... LMAO.... LOL....

This isn't a rouge group that can RUN, and HIDE whilst they send there children into suicide missions, this is a nation that will have a new leader soon :)

Plus for you non-Americans.... they have almost the same amount of oil as the Saudis do.... So we want it :D

> WW3 is upon us... Sadam won't go out like a pussy

Finally someone with a brain cell.

There's no question that Sadam or allies will hit back in one way or another and if september 11 is anything to go by, it will be very well put together and ultimately probably catastrophic for the world.

Don't underestimate the vengeance, there would be huge support behind it.

yea, we will have a real tough chicken shoot this time.

This time i say they surrender to FOX news, not CNN. This will completely upset the natural balance of the Iraqi surrender, and could possibley cause a shift in the natural Iraqi surrender policy:)

If you don't feed your troops, they will not fight for you. just a note that I thought the Iraqi Government needs to know!!