Doubt that is the core issue s2kord - prob more to do with an agenda, which may not have much to do with the US as a country.
But sure, the media don't half troll it out and milk it, tho it can be the same elsewhere, - maybe not so blantant. It's hardly a surprise folks think they are under threat from some place or other and the world is their enemy when they watch that shit 24/7.
The "Only Problem?"
How about all the corrupt and arogant politians and the incredible tax system they have implemented on everyone? The arogance of forcing our democratic values on other countries? The IRS? They answer to no one! The criminal justice system has been fucked for decades. Paroling killers, rapists and child molesters from prison? Placing convicted felons and misdemenors on probation, time after time after time!
This is my second post of this type of subject tonight and my blood pressure is rising. Sorry.
I think more along with citizen apathy and piss poor education. Combined with extreme selfishness and unbelievable ego.
I don't believe any of that. The majority of americans are smart vs the rest of the world. I would say alot are materlistic but I would also say most people would give you the shirt of their back if you did not have one and was cold.
I don't believe any of that. The majority of americans are smart vs the rest of the world. I would say alot are materlistic but I would also say most people would give you the shirt of their back if you did not have one and was cold.
The "Only Problem?"
How about all the corrupt and arogant politians and the incredible tax system they have implemented on everyone? The arogance of forcing our democratic values on other countries? The IRS? They answer to no one! The criminal justice system has been fucked for decades. Paroling killers, rapists and child molesters from prison? Placing convicted felons and misdemenors on probation, time after time after time!
This is my second post of this type of subject tonight and my blood pressure is rising. Sorry.
See your a prime example. You just made is seem like all politians are corrupt and arogant not one or two but all. Do you really believe all politians are corrupt and if so why do you believe this?
Boot up the president of iraqs ass, saying we are leaving on this date. We will leave coaltion troops in place unless you can not get your shit in order. If that happens your on your own. Have a nice day.
Boot up the president of iraqs ass, saying we are leaving on this date. We will leave coaltion troops in place unless you can not get your shit in order. If that happens your on your own. Have a nice day.
Then do just that.
That's not a solution. Think how would the majoity of the USA feel about that?
What happens when you ignore your problems?
That's not a solution. Think how would the majoity of the USA feel about that?
What happens when you ignore your problems?
Leaders lead, leaders sometimes do not do what public opinions dictate and they loose their jobs because of it. The majority of the USA may have issue, they may also be glad to be out.
It has long gone past our problem, or at least one we can fix. It is a cival war, so let them figure the shit out.
Plus I think it would calm down some other saber rattlers around the world since our forces would not be "busy".
Keep your illusions young man. Just do not look at any reports or graphs ranking countries and basic education.
Illusions, Reports & Rankings it's kind of like PR you can rank PR6 and still have zero traffic. Rankings & Reports mean nothing! Unless they are done in a manner where you know all the facts.
Illusions, Reports & Rankings it's kind of like PR you can rank PR6 and still have zero traffic. Rankings & Reports mean nothing! Unless they are done in a manner where you know all the facts.
Leaders lead, leaders sometimes do not do what public opinions dictate and they loose their jobs because of it. The majority of the USA may have issue, they may also be glad to be out.
It has long gone past our problem, or at least one we can fix. It is a cival war, so let them figure the shit out.
Plus I think it would calm down some other saber rattlers around the world since our forces would not be "busy".
Ok well I can see we are not going to see eye to eye on this matter that is fine.
I just don't think we should cut and run from this situation we should stay the course it's the american way and I think the iraq people will be better off in the end.
All those people will have died for freedom. If we cut and run now how does that make the US look?
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LOL You can't determine somebody's education from a quiz or a test. I know alot of people would like to beleave you can but that's just not Fact. People learn differently you could say that the other country studied before they took the test and took the test more serious. You can not say that they are smarter then the USA that would not be fact.
Ok well I can see we are not going to see eye to eye on this matter that is fine.
I just don't think we should cut and run from this situation we should stay the course it's the american way and I think the iraq people will be better off in the end.
All those people will have died for freedom. If we cut and run now how does that make the US look?
You realize you just said "stay the course" and "cut and run" right?
Guess maybe the media does influence you too much.
We also have not always played the "stay the course" thing now have we? Wasnt that long ago we had to pull out of another war.
I have zero issue with the troops in play now and to those that have fallen. I respect that they did the job called upon them to do. I also am concerned with the ones that are still alive. No matter the views on the reasoning of the war, nor does it matter now both American and Iraqi lives are being lost. We removed Saddam for better or worse. We set up a Government for better or worse. We have given the Iraqi's freedom if they want it, they just happen to also want a civil war. That is their own war and issue, it is not ours.
Not sure how it would make us look, only the future could say. I do however think that the longer we stay the more worldwide hate that grows towards us. That does not make me feel to safe.
LOL You can't determine somebody's education from a quiz or a test. I know alot of people would like to beleave you can but that's just not Fact. People learn differently you could say that the other country studied before they took the test and took the test more serious. You can not say that they are smarter then the USA that would not be fact.
Umm lets ignore most of what you said, it is just math, geography, and so forth. If others took the test more seriously and studied, umm wouldn't it of been smarter for us to have our students study as well? I mean we do like to compete and all, notice how we still go crazy with the Olympics.
Now if more kids in even piss poor countries can place Montana on a map correctly more often than kids in the US, that is a problem. Hell a huge chunk of adults also believe in angels, and doubt evolution.
You realize you just said "stay the course" and "cut and run" right?
Guess maybe the media does influence you too much.
We also have not always played the "stay the course" thing now have we? Wasnt that long ago we had to pull out of another war.
I have zero issue with the troops in play now and to those that have fallen. I respect that they did the job called upon them to do. I also am concerned with the ones that are still alive. No matter the views on the reasoning of the war, nor does it matter now both American and Iraqi lives are being lost. We removed Saddam for better or worse. We set up a Government for better or worse. We have given the Iraqi's freedom if they want it, they just happen to also want a civil war. That is their own war and issue, it is not ours.
Not sure how it would make us look, only the future could say. I do however think that the longer we stay the more worldwide hate that grows towards us. That does not make me feel to safe.
Your living in fear? Well I understand what you are saying all the best to you I got to get on a plane in about 30 mins.
Umm lets ignore most of what you said, it is just math, geography, and so forth. If others took the test more seriously and studied, umm wouldn't it of been smarter for us to have our students study as well? I mean we do like to compete and all, notice how we still go crazy with the Olympics.
Now if more kids in even piss poor countries can place Montana on a map correctly more often than kids in the US, that is a problem. Hell a huge chunk of adults also believe in angels, and doubt evolution.
Education means nothing if you dont use it. Mabe they are smarter but america is the land of dreams.
Education means nothing if you dont use it. Mabe they are smarter but america is the land of dreams.
See my first post in this thread, then re read each and every comment you have made. Anytime at your leisure. By the way not calling you stupid either.
Face it. The world is just a fucked up place. Accept it, don't get your blood pressure to rise and find peace. Don't give a fuck about things you can't change anyway.
"Everyone worries about the weather, but nobody does anything against it." ;)
I don't believe any of that. The majority of americans are smart vs the rest of the world. I would say alot are materlistic but I would also say most people would give you the shirt of their back if you did not have one and was cold.
That statement is one painfully arrogant and ignorant comment to make. There is a HUGE difference between being smart and being informed/educated.
I don't believe any of that. The majority of americans are smart vs the rest of the world. I would say alot are materlistic but I would also say most people would give you the shirt of their back if you did not have one and was cold.
This country(USA) never had, and will never have a single problem. There are problems that are visible straight from our homes, School, religious, institutions, politics, economy, etc--a complex problem that requires a long-term and integrated solution.
the media is one problem, and in addition to blowing shit out of proportion the media is causing the retard level to rise in the country...I'm sorry to say, but america has the highest level of retards compared to anywhere in the world, except for maybe the middle east...
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I don't believe any of that. The majority of americans are smart vs the rest of the world. I would say alot are materlistic but I would also say most people would give you the shirt of their back if you did not have one and was cold.
Ok well I can see we are not going to see eye to eye on this matter that is fine.
I just don't think we should cut and run from this situation we should stay the course it's the american way and I think the iraq people will be better off in the end.
All those people will have died for freedom. If we cut and run now how does that make the US look?
... is that you, George ?????
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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