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Storm_Tracker 10-21-2006 08:41 PM

China Checkmates US with North Korean Threat
 
Great Artical I wanted to share with you guys


by Henry Makow Ph.D.

It appears that China has outflanked George Jr. and the Neo Cons and stymied NWO plans for world hegemony based on control of Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil.

By getting its proxy North Korea to menace South Korea and Japan, China
has saved Iran and written the epitaph for the US in Iraq. America cannot pursue its Middle East strategy while contending with another war in North East Asia.

While a US carrier group steamed toward Iran (because of its nuclear research,) North Korea was exploding nuclear weapons and threatening to attack Japan and the US! Nothing could better demonstrate the bankruptcy of Bush's foreign policy.

In the terms of Brzezinski's "Grand Chessboard" this is "checkmate" to the US and Israel, pawns of London-based central bankers. The US has already withdrawn from Al Anbar province. Withdrawal from the rest of Iraq is now just a matter of time.

I watch the network news for the spin, not for the "information," and Friday the spin was new. CBS had a panel of elite talking heads addressing the subject:" How can we get out of Iraq?"

One said and I quote, "theocracy may be the most we can hope for; liberal democracy is impossible." Hello!? The US can take credit for putting Iranian Ayatollahs in power!

On Tuesday morning, the Iraqi Resistance blew up the main US arsenal in Baghdad killing 300 Americans and destroying over a billion dollars in arms. That was real news, so it wasn't reported.

As you know, the British army Chief of Staff said Britain needs to get out of Iraq. US generals are also in revolt. US politicians said we need to negotiate with Iran. You get the picture. The Neo-Con controlled US foreign policy is in disarray. All that remains is face saving. The easy money has been made. It's time to fold.

It's very possible China is also controlled by the Illuminati, and that the US-Chinese rivalry will eventually end in world war.

But in the meantime I hope those responsible for the Iraq fiasco will be repudiated.The Democrats will be net beneficiaries although they are equally responsible. We may get a breather for a couple of years while the NWO bankers discover other ways to bury Western civilization and take away our freedom.
----

Note: I acknowledge the influence of Joseph Ehrlich's valuable commentary. He refers to Kim Jong-Ill as China's 'suicide bomber' willing to make any sacrifice. In his latest newsletter, he remarks that there have been three earthquakes affecting Japan since the NK test, and that scientists confirm the test could have caused the quakes.


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OzMan 10-21-2006 08:46 PM

I sale cheap tin foil hats

Storm_Tracker 10-21-2006 08:51 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if China is under Illuminati-influence. The relationship between China and the west has progressed significantly over recent years, and the cheap Chinese labour market is a valuable western asset.

I can't help but feel some compassion for North Korea. The country is clearly under threat from the globalists. The development of nuclear weapons
isn't a crime in my books; it's a self-defence measure.

The use of those weapons on a population (TWICE), however, is and was an unforgivable crime against God and humanity. Fair playing field: either everyone disarm their stockpiles or they shut the FUCK up about others' defence-measures, simple!

Spunky 10-21-2006 08:52 PM

Kill Charley

charlie g 10-21-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 11128527)
I sale cheap tin foil hats

I need 2. One for my big fat head, and a little one for my johnson.

LiveDose 10-21-2006 08:57 PM

As long as my local Chinese food joint keeps making me dinner I'm happy.

KRL 10-21-2006 08:58 PM

Politicians always hide the truth and reality. It's the nature of the game they play unfortunately. And the sheep always keep believing, cause they don't have a choice to do otherwise.

Of all the executive branch administrations I've seen over the years, this current one seems to be the most ambitious and brazen about doing things their way instead of in sync with the will of the people.

Bush made an interesting comment recently when questioned about how historians will look back on his administration by responding to the effect "It really won't matter what people will say and write because none of us will be here, we'll all be long gone by then."

DaddyHalbucks 10-21-2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL (Post 11128610)
Politicians always hide the truth and reality. It's the nature of the game they play unfortunately. And the sheep always keep believing, cause they don't have a choice to do otherwise.

Of all the executive branch administrations I've seen over the years, this current one seems to be the most ambitious and brazen about doing things their way instead of in sync with the will of the people.

Bush made an interesting comment recently when questioned about how historians will look back on his administration by responding to the effect "It really won't matter what people will say and write because none of us will be here, we'll all be long gone by then."


GWB is alot smarter than most of his critics. He makes alot of sense most of the time.

he-fox 10-21-2006 10:02 PM

"On Tuesday morning, the Iraqi Resistance blew up the main US arsenal in Baghdad killing 300 Americans and destroying over a billion dollars in arms. That was real news, so it wasn't reported."

It wasn't that bad until this one...I gotta call bullshit.

KRL 10-21-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 11128936)
"On Tuesday morning, the Iraqi Resistance blew up the main US arsenal in Baghdad killing 300 Americans and destroying over a billion dollars in arms. That was real news, so it wasn't reported."

It wasn't that bad until this one...I gotta call bullshit.

You think the DoD would dare announce that 300 of our guys got killed in one hit? Never gonna happen.

If you saw the video of that explosion it was fucking enormous. It was the main US arsenal. Whether there were 300 troops guarding it precisely, you'd have to assume you'd have at least a couple hundred for sure. Anyone near there would have been toast instantly.

Mutt 10-21-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL (Post 11128610)
Bush made an interesting comment recently when questioned about how historians will look back on his administration by responding to the effect "It really won't matter what people will say and write because none of us will be here, we'll all be long gone by then."

that is an embarassing comment - it's a comment i would have offered as a 14 year old. he's right of course on a personal level but coming from a president of the United States it's pathetic.

he-fox 10-21-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL (Post 11128947)
You think the DoD would dare announce that 300 of our guys got killed in one hit? Never gonna happen.

If you saw the video of that explosion it was fucking enormous. It was the main US arsenal. Whether there were 300 troops guarding it precisely, you'd have to assume you'd have at least a couple hundred for sure. Anyone near there would have been toast instantly.

It's possible that DoD doesn't announce, but what about all international media, companies and ppl in there. War in Irak doesn't involve nore is controlled only by DoD...

Webby 10-21-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 11128936)
"On Tuesday morning, the Iraqi Resistance blew up the main US arsenal in Baghdad killing 300 Americans and destroying over a billion dollars in arms. That was real news, so it wasn't reported."

It wasn't that bad until this one...I gotta call bullshit.

Something he-fox - you got a point there.

Just been digging for original reports on the attack on Camp Falcon and the subsequent explosions. They are few and far between.

There are plenty Middle East news reports, but hell knows if they are reliable.

The general tone of them was that the attack resulted in massive explosions - there is video evidence of the Camp Falcon attack here...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=668724

The stuff below is from various, not necessarily reliable sources, but since there is no other and no denial of the attack, here's "something"...

Quote:

Western news reports stated that the blasts continued for hours lighting up the nighttime sky over Baghdad. The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported at that hour that three huge US transport aircraft emblazoned with the red cross had flown into the base, and casualties were being unloaded and sent into the hospital at the al-Habbaniyah base, located some 70km west of Baghdad.

Later, in a dispatch posted at 2:45am Makkah time Wednesday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that two more huge transport planes had arrived in the US-occupied al-Habbaniyah airbase, 70km west of Baghdad carrying casualties from the devastating Resistance assault on America?s Falcon Base in the US-occupied as-Saqr (Falcon) Forward Base in Sukkaniya located in the southern Baghdad suburb of ad-Durah.

The al-Habbaniyah correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported eyewitnesses in the village of al-Bu Mar?i, about 2km from the US-occupied air base, as saying that as of that time, a total of five enormous transport planes had flown into the base emblazoned with the red cross. The transports came in under fighter escort, the fighter planes remained aloft circling al-Habbaniyah as the transports set down.

The witnesses said that the US occupation forces illuminated the base ? something they do not normally do ? as swarms of American helicopters prowled the skies around the area, trying to prevent Resistance rocket attacks. Then in a dispatch posted at 5:15pm Makkah time Wednesday afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that at 7am Wednesday morning the last of a total of nine huge transport planes had landed at the US-occupied al-Habbaniyah airbase, site of America?s largest military hospital in the country, during the night.

The al-Habbaniyah correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported that the transport planes continued to land and take off all night and into Wednesday morning ferrying back and forth under fighter escort from Baghdad loaded with dead and wounded Americans. The correspondent reported eyewitnesses as saying that the aircraft did indeed fly into al-Habbaniyah from Baghdad. The huge transport planes arrived over al-Habbaniyah with fighter escort and then would break away from the warplanes land at the airfield and then take off again after about 20 minutes.

A source in the Iraqi puppet army told Mafkarat al-Islam that the US forces transported more than 90 Iraqi puppet troops to hospital for treatment after the blasts began to shake the southern part of the city. This number was confirmed by Dr. ?Umar ?Abdallah ar-Rawi of ar-Ramadi Hospital who told Mafkarat al-Islam that ?90 wounded Iraqi troops were brought to us late in the night.? He indicated that the Americans requested his hospital to clear a wing for them and they did so.

Residents of al-Habbaniyah agreed that nine massive transport planes arrived at various times during the night and into the morning bringing casualties to the US military hospital at the base. The first three planes arrived at 1am local time, witnesses said. The fourth plane landed at about 1:30am, then a fifth about 10 minutes later. Then at 3:30am two more large transports arrived at al-Habbaniyah airbase, and the last two transports were seen coming in at 7am local time Wednesday morning.

Although the nighttime curfew is usually lifted at around 6am each morning, the correspondent reported that US forces only opened the roads and lifted the automobile curfew in al-Habbaniyah at 8am Wednesday morning. In its announcements regarding the attack, US officials denied that the attack on the arsenal caused any casualties at all. Mafkarat al-Islam observed, however, that the landing of nine massive transport planes carrying US casualties was an important indicator that the number of Americans killed or wounded in the Resistance assault on Falcon arsenal was very substantial.

The new American military hospital in al-Habbaniyah, reportedly the largest in occupied Iraq, was opened on 12 May this year in response to rising US casualties.
Here's one of the first BBC reports of the incident...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6038990.stm

Note... Camp Falcon is a major center and houses many troops as well as .. obvious support infrastructure, including the arms which exploded.

The US is claiming no casualities resulting from this attack - almost a impossible scenario considering the extent of the blasts and the density of people in that area.

Hell.. we gonna see some "revelations" which so far, have not been admitted to??

TheJimmy 10-21-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL (Post 11128610)
...

Bush made an interesting comment recently when questioned about how historians will look back on his administration by responding to the effect "It really won't matter what people will say and write because none of us will be here, we'll all be long gone by then."

I think that's one of the reasons I can't stand him the most, is he's soo damm blatent about his disregard for the public and freedoms/democracy in general.

:/

I sure hope we get some decent choices in the next presidential election... And am really curious to see how the upcoming elections go.

Webby 10-21-2006 10:43 PM

he-fox:

Here's another bloggy link on Camp Falcon - asking also where the news is on this explosion and quoting a few, possibly doubtful, sources...

http://id.chilleddreams.com/node/36


Interesting quote from that link....

Quote:

You will hear of the casualties after the election.

Martin 10-21-2006 11:01 PM

Damn. Thats some wild shit.

pocketkangaroo 10-21-2006 11:09 PM

Ahhhhh yes....the old China-US war talk. Lets take into account that we owe China a lot of money and that it is in their best interest to collect. Lets take into account that we bring them almost all their fucking business and their economy essentially revolves around US companies. That eliminating the US essentially destroys their economy and has them where the Soviet Union was at their collapse.

China and the US will not be going to war. Both have nukes and any war would be pointless. We'd just wipe each other off the planet. The US also has many more nuke friendly allies, as well as strategic allies in Asia. Maybe this will change in 50 years, but for now, and the considerable future, China needs the US.

As for China and North Korea, we hold a huge trump card in this equation. At any time, we can tell Japan to go nuclear. China does not want that, and they aren't going to defend shit North Korea over that. Lets not forget that any war involving North Korea means a shitload of refugees pouring into China, the last thing they really need.

And you're going to tell me 300 American were killed and no one is going to report it? Come on.

martinsc 10-21-2006 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 11128527)
I sale cheap tin foil hats

do you accept epass? :)

squishypimp 10-21-2006 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 11128598)
As long as my local Chinese food joint keeps making me dinner I'm happy.

lol :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

he-fox 10-21-2006 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11129041)
he-fox:

Here's another bloggy link on Camp Falcon - asking also where the news is on this explosion and quoting a few, possibly doubtful, sources...

http://id.chilleddreams.com/node/36


Interesting quote from that link....

I googled myself a few links, it was a huge explosion indeed, but 300 killed sounds a bit too much for me. Think that that would mean 1000's of injured...

Dirty Dane 10-21-2006 11:20 PM

China is the new mini-super power, and soon you can remove the 'mini'

marketsmart 10-21-2006 11:28 PM

interesting.. i wonder how long the attack will be kept out of the press...

Webby 10-21-2006 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 11129145)
I googled myself a few links, it was a huge explosion indeed, but 300 killed sounds a bit too much for me. Think that that would mean 1000's of injured...

Suggests that - and makes it not credible that media could avoid that story or that it could get hidden. It's impossible to be based in Baghdad after these explosions and not pick up some info off the streets to give a clue and check out.

It's also kinda crazy to think that there were no US casualties as a result of that attack when there were Iraqi's killed or injured.

pocketkangaroo 10-21-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm_Tracker (Post 11128507)
by Henry Makow Ph.D.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Webby 10-21-2006 11:51 PM

Shit.. of course, Makow - the fountain of all news :winkwink:

It takes too long to read his shit and too way out.

pocketkangaroo 10-21-2006 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11129223)
Shit.. of course, Makow - the fountain of all news :winkwink:

It takes too long to read his shit and too way out.

The man did create Scruples though. Have to give him mad props for that. :thumbsup

Webby 10-22-2006 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11129232)
The man did create Scruples though. Have to give him mad props for that. :thumbsup

Now.. didn't know that :winkwink:

He needs to spend his time creating more board games instead of rambling on about feminism and the New World Order - but, hell, each to their own :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 10-22-2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11129243)
Now.. didn't know that :winkwink:

He needs to spend his time creating more board games instead of rambling on about feminism and the New World Order - but, hell, each to their own :thumbsup

Some of his feminism stuff is hilarious. How wives must return to submitting to their husbands. I've read some of his stuff for pure entertainment. His sheer insanity is somewhat addicting.

I love how every article he writes somehow manages to rip apart jews. Then when he's asked if he's anti-semitic, he says his words are taken out of context. I personally love his article on GTA: Vice City where he tries to say it's the makings of the devils and that we must reject feminism, sexual liberation, and pornography.

It's tough to make those guys like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell look sane, but he is so far to the right that he comes pretty close.

Webby 10-22-2006 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11129257)
How wives must return to submitting to their husbands.

So, he's got some good ideas then?? :1orglaugh

Agree - some of em are damned funny - and totally incredible!

I gave up... or never really started, reading "real blogs" - they were always on some damned agenda and so full of crap whether political or on some other trip. The "freedom of the internet" and "free speech" on it may be a burden we have the bear - while we earn dollar as webmasters :winkwink:

woj 10-22-2006 12:18 AM

all sounded plausible until "Illuminati" was mentioned...

Naja-ram 10-22-2006 01:36 AM

Iran is gonna get its nuke powers if you want it or not.

reynold 10-22-2006 08:16 AM

Let the balance of power be maintained and we can assure ourselves of temporary peace..

BoyAlley 10-22-2006 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan (Post 11128527)
I sale cheap tin foil hats

Good cuz after reading that smelly horse shit I'm gonna need one.

karlcore 10-22-2006 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm_Tracker (Post 11128507)
It appears that China has outflanked George Jr. and the Neo Cons and stymied NWO plans for world hegemony based on control of Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil.

This is where I stopped reading. This one sentence is so filled with bias as to erode any semblance of credibility this writer could possibly have.

Lazonby 10-22-2006 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm_Tracker (Post 11128507)
Great Artical I wanted to share with you guys


by Henry Makow Ph.D.

It appears that China has outflanked George Jr. and the Neo Cons and stymied NWO plans for world hegemony based on control of Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil.

By getting its proxy North Korea to menace South Korea and Japan, China
has saved Iran and written the epitaph for the US in Iraq. America cannot pursue its Middle East strategy while contending with another war in North East Asia.

While a US carrier group steamed toward Iran (because of its nuclear research,) North Korea was exploding nuclear weapons and threatening to attack Japan and the US! Nothing could better demonstrate the bankruptcy of Bush's foreign policy.

In the terms of Brzezinski's "Grand Chessboard" this is "checkmate" to the US and Israel, pawns of London-based central bankers. The US has already withdrawn from Al Anbar province. Withdrawal from the rest of Iraq is now just a matter of time.

I watch the network news for the spin, not for the "information," and Friday the spin was new. CBS had a panel of elite talking heads addressing the subject:" How can we get out of Iraq?"

One said and I quote, "theocracy may be the most we can hope for; liberal democracy is impossible." Hello!? The US can take credit for putting Iranian Ayatollahs in power!

On Tuesday morning, the Iraqi Resistance blew up the main US arsenal in Baghdad killing 300 Americans and destroying over a billion dollars in arms. That was real news, so it wasn't reported.

As you know, the British army Chief of Staff said Britain needs to get out of Iraq. US generals are also in revolt. US politicians said we need to negotiate with Iran. You get the picture. The Neo-Con controlled US foreign policy is in disarray. All that remains is face saving. The easy money has been made. It's time to fold.

It's very possible China is also controlled by the Illuminati, and that the US-Chinese rivalry will eventually end in world war.

But in the meantime I hope those responsible for the Iraq fiasco will be repudiated.The Democrats will be net beneficiaries although they are equally responsible. We may get a breather for a couple of years while the NWO bankers discover other ways to bury Western civilization and take away our freedom.
----

Note: I acknowledge the influence of Joseph Ehrlich's valuable commentary. He refers to Kim Jong-Ill as China's 'suicide bomber' willing to make any sacrifice. In his latest newsletter, he remarks that there have been three earthquakes affecting Japan since the NK test, and that scientists confirm the test could have caused the quakes.


:pimp

You're a nutcase. Did you read what you just posted?

StuartD 10-22-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 11128896)
GWB is alot smarter than most of his critics. He makes alot of sense most of the time.

Hahaha...... right.

Martin 10-22-2006 08:49 AM

He's right about one thing, The withdraw from Iraq is coming sooner then later.

BitAudioVideo 10-22-2006 09:04 AM

errr, just the other day werent the anti us news shows claiming this big explosion to be us nuking iraq?

karlcore 10-22-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 11130579)
He's right about one thing, The withdraw from Iraq is coming sooner then later.

And the sky will turn dark and then light again.
the rain will come and the ground will be wet before it is dried.


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