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xxxjay 10-09-2006 07:33 PM

Zonga?
 
A lot of people seem to be pissed about these guys...I really don't know anything about them (other than they are some kind of spyware).

Can someone get me up to speed, so we can find out a way to deal with these fuckers?

Quotealex 10-09-2006 07:34 PM

a brief summary on http://www.pornresource.com/article/3038/

Wagerboy 10-09-2006 07:36 PM

This should be about 15 pages long.

WiredGuy 10-09-2006 07:37 PM

u mean Zango?
WG

xxxjay 10-09-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 11035834)
This should be about 15 pages long.

LOL, yes - please get me the short answer, so I can purge they effect they have on the 3 companies I own.

xxxjay 10-09-2006 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11035837)
u mean Zango?
WG

LOL...yeah, I guess that is it.

born2blog 10-09-2006 07:39 PM

yeah I think you mean Zango

dissipate 10-09-2006 07:45 PM

They install malicious spyware that creates popups with thier own affiliate codes, stealing traffic.

Daruma 10-09-2006 07:46 PM

there are a ton of them that are simular
here's a list of some that I found - probably not all are bad, haven't check them out... starting todo some research on this shit - as it affects any owner - or affiliate..


http://www.chitika.com Chitika Shopping mall banner advertising. (CPC)

http://www.adbrite.com AdBrite Ad marketplace for publishers and advertisers. (CPC); 75% payout.

http://www.advertising.com Advertising.com Large network. (CPA)

http://www.247realmedia.com 24/7 RealMedia Large network. (CPM)

http://www.burstmedia.com Burst Media Large network. (CPM)

http://www.cj.com Commission Junction Large network. (CPA)

http://www.kanoodle.com Kanoodle Large network. (CPC); 50% payout.

http://www.linkshare.com LinkShare Large network. (CPA)

http://www.valueclick.com ValueClick Large network. (CPM)

http://publisher.yahoo.com Yahoo Publisher Network Closed Beta (CPC)

https://adcenter.msn.com/Default.aspx MSN adCenter Closed Beta (CPC)

http://www.accelerator-media.com Accelerator Media

http://www.adagency1.com AdAgency 1 (CPM) ; 60% payout.

http://www.addynamix.com AdDynamix (CPM)

http://www.adengage.com AdEngage

http://www.adgenta.com Adgenta

http://www.adhearus.org Adhearus

http://www.adknowledge.com AdKnowledge (CPC)

http://www.adpepper.com/en AdPepper (CPM)

http://www.adservingnetwork.com ADServing Network (CPM)

http://www.adsmart.net Adsmart (CPM)

http://www.adtegrity.com Adtegrity (CPM)

http://www.adzuba.com AdZuba (CPM)

http://www.affiliatefuture.co.uk AffiliateFuture (CPA)

http://www.affiliatesensor.com AffiliateSensor

http://www.allfeeds.com AllFeeds (CPC); 60% payout.

http://www.avnads.com AVNads

http://www.azoogleads.com AzoogleAds (CPA)

http://www.bannerboxes.com Banner Boxes (CPC)

http://www.bannerconnect.net BannerConnect (CPM)

http://www.bardzomedia.com BardzoMedia (CPM)

http://www.bidclix.com BidClix (CPC)

http://www.bidvertiser.com BidVertiser (CPC)

http://www.blinkads.com BlinkAds (CPA)

http://www.bluefn.com BlueFN (CPA)

http://www.bluelithium.com BlueLithium (CPM)

http://www.casalemedia.com Casale Media (CPM); 70% payout.

http://www.clickadsdirect.com ClickAdsDirect

http://www.clickbooth.com ClickBooth (CPA)

http://www.click-share.com ClickShare

http://www.clicksor.com Clicksor (CPC); upto 85% payout.

http://www.clickxchange.com ClickXchange (CPA)

http://www.contextweb.com/Corporate/home ContexWeb (CPC); 50% payout.

http://www.coverclicks.com/publishers.htm CoverClicks

http://www.cpxinteractive.com CPX Interactive/Budsinc (CPM)

http://www.directanetworks.com DirectNetworks (CPA)

http://www.enhance.com Enhance Interactive

http://www.esourcemedia.com Esource Media (CPM)

http://www.etype-europe.com Etype-Europe (CPM)

http://www.etypeusa.com EtypeUSA

http://www.expoactive.com ExpoActive

http://www.fastclick.com FastClick=ValueClick (CPM); upto 65% payout.

http://www.fluxads.com FluxAds (CPA)

http://www.hurricanedigitalmedia.com HurricaneDigitalMedia (CPM); 60/75% payout.

http://www.hyperbidder.com/HYWeb/HomePageServlet Hyperbidder (CPC)

http://www.incentaclick.com IncentaClick (CPA)

http://www.industrybrains.com Industry Brains

http://www.interclick.com Interclick

http://www.joetec.net JoeTec (CPM)

http://www.kontera.com Kontera (CPC)

http://mammamediasolutions.com Mamma Media Solutions (CPC); 50% payout.

http://www.maxbounty.com MaxBounty (CPA)

http://www.mirago.com Mirago

http://www.miva.com/us/content/partners/arx.asp MIVA AdRevenue Xpress

http://www.nixxie.com Nixxie

http://www.oridian.com Oridian (CPA)

http://www.oxado.com Oxado (CPC)

http://www.paypopup.com Paypopup (CPM)

http://www.peakclick.com PeakClick

http://www.popuptraffic.com Popup Traffic (CPM)

http://www.quigo.com Quigo (CPC)

http://www.realcastmedia.com RealCastMedia (CPM)

http://www.realtechnetwork.com RealTech Network (CPM)

http://www.revenuepilot.com Revenue Pilot (CPC); 60% payout.

http://www.rightmedia.com RightMedia (CPM)

http://www.searchfeed.com Searchfeed (CPC)

http://www.shareasale.com ShareAShare (CPA)

http://publisher.targetpoint.com TargetPoint (CPC); at least 50% payout.

http://www.text-link-ads.com TextLinkAds (CPC)

http://www.tmpexpress.com TMP Express (CPA)

http://www.tremornetwork.com Tremor Network

http://www.tribalfusion.com Tribal Fusion (CPM)

http://advertise.veoda.com Veoda (CPC) ; 60-90% payout.

http://www.intellitxt.com/site/web_01a.html Vibrant Media IntelliTXT (CPM)

xxxjay 10-09-2006 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissipate (Post 11035882)
They install malicious spyware that creates popups with thier own affiliate codes, stealing traffic.

Yeah, that much I figured, but what can we do to find them and purge them from our affiliate DB? Anyone have payto info? Or some other method I can locate them.

Do they buy traffic from adbrite (avnads)? I only use them a little on www.loljesus.com but I will gladly whack the if they do.

Wagerboy 10-09-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 11035838)
LOL, yes - please get me the short answer, so I can purge they effect they have on the 3 companies I own.

I am tryin to learn about it myself. I am reading every thread about it and Will76 seems to have much knowledge about it. He should be here soon (i hope)

Vox 10-09-2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma (Post 11035890)
there are a ton of them that are simular
here's a list of some that I found - probably not all are bad, haven't check them out... starting todo some research on this shit - as it affects any owner - or affiliate..


http://www.chitika.com Chitika Shopping mall banner advertising. (CPC)

http://www.adbrite.com AdBrite Ad marketplace for publishers and advertisers. (CPC); 75% payout.

Not the brightest lightbulb are you?

Daruma 10-09-2006 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vox (Post 11035905)
Not the brightest lightbulb are you?

i didnt even fucking screen the list - so fuck off..

there are some on the list that are crap players.. that do the same as Zango

247realmedia
bluelithium
casalemedia
burstmedia
tribalfusion
etc..

BSleazy 10-09-2006 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 11035816)
A lot of people seem to be pissed about these guys...I really don't know anything about them (other than they are some kind of spyware).

Can someone get me up to speed, so we can find out a way to deal with these fuckers?

Talk to Will76.

xxxjay 10-09-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 11035939)
Talk to Will76.


Yeah, he already started a thread.

Dagwolf 10-09-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissipate (Post 11035882)
They install malicious spyware that creates popups with thier own affiliate codes, stealing traffic.

Work-stealing is really low.

BitAudioVideo 10-09-2006 08:17 PM

yo jay

i converted that funky codec wmv that will76 posted into windows media 9 so you can see what its doing

http://www.bitaudiovideo.com/will76/...s-com-wmv9.wmv

btw never had a chance to thank you for the hardlink so thanks!

Rich

RawAlex 10-09-2006 08:22 PM

The easiest way to do it is to find a computer you don't like or were intending to reformat, and purposely infect it. Start surfing your own sites, click through using affiliate codes, etc, and see what you get.

Linguist 10-09-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11036065)
The easiest way to do it is to find a computer you don't like or were intending to reformat, and purposely infect it. Start surfing your own sites, click through using affiliate codes, etc, and see what you get.

Easier solution is to use your day-to-day computer with a virtual machine: http://vmware.com

marketsmart 10-09-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 11035837)
u mean Zango?
WG

after i read the first post, i couldnt remember what it was really called :1orglaugh

fris 10-09-2006 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 11035994)
Yeah, he already started a thread.

basically if someone has the zango installed and is surfing your site the link codes get swapped out with zangos.

the ones they are handling.

some info for you.


Zango Accused Of Deceiving MySpace Users

Users of MySpace who find a link to a video and press the Play button may have just agreed to install adware from 180solutions' Zango division.

http://www.securitypronews.com/news/...paceUsers.html

very detailed report if you have time read:

http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/180-affiliates/

zango used to be 180 solutions until they got a major lawsuit.

http://www.zango.com/Destination/Cor...cle.aspx?id=50

Hotbar and 180solutions Merge; Combined Company To Be Called Zango

BELLEVUE, Wash. and NEW YORK/TEL AVIV, Israel June 7, 2006-Hotbar and 180solutions today announced an agreement to merge, effective immediately. The merged company will be known as Zango.


http://blogs.zdnet.com/Spyware/?p=655

A class action complaint against adware company 180solutions was filed today in an Illinois United States District Court by attorneys Shawn M. Collins and David J. Fish of The Collins Law Firm. The complaint on behalf of residents of the United States and the state of Illinois charges that 180solutions downloaded spyware on computers illegally causing a number of damages. 180solutions' alleged illegal practices include deceptively distributing spyware files and preventing users from removing them, engaging in deceptive misconduct to download its spyware without users' knowledge or consent, lying to consumers about its spyware, etc.

Wiggles 10-09-2006 08:29 PM

wonder how much they are making from this shit, some big programs must know about it and just aren't doing anything.

xxxjay 10-09-2006 08:35 PM

Xxxxxxxxx (08:12 PM) :
Hey Jay - want a brief explanation?
Jay (08:12 PM) :
sure
Jay (08:13 PM) :
i know how it works
Jay (08:13 PM) :
if they are sending traffic to us
Jay (08:13 PM) :
how do i find them
Jay (08:13 PM) :
?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
You can't unfortunately
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
If they are your affiliates you can
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
Zango = 180Solutions
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
BUT they also sell that traffic as PPC
Jay (08:14 PM) :
gotcha
Jay (08:14 PM) :
is there something that can remove it for free?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:15 PM) :
So basically - say I wanted to bid on JAYSXXXLINKS what they do on the infected computer is YES the surfer goes to your page but the moment the word JAYSXXX or any derivative sparks their surfer, it will replace the link codes.
Xxxxxxxxx (08:15 PM) :
& go to whomever is bidding the highest
Jay (08:15 PM) :
that sucks
Xxxxxxxxx (08:16 PM) :
Now the example with Sleazy - is this
His gallery was on thehun and pointing to AFF - when the infected computer was onthe page and clicked AFF - it actually opened an AFF link BUT it sparked a popup page that forced its way over the AFF page and it was SexSearch
Xxxxxxxxx (08:18 PM) :
Now you as a sponsor CAN stop them if they are promoting you **probably by checking that the referrers match the affiliate who always sends fromthe same urls. The one that keeps sending from a million different URLS and you can'T really account for where his traffic comes from - chances are, he,s buying that stuff

Xxxxxxxxx (08:18 PM) :
OR we're fucked, cuz it doesn't necessarily mean they have an account with you.
Jay (08:19 PM) :
huh
Xxxxxxxxx (08:20 PM) :
With OCCash - you can 'prevent' it if they are your affiliate and the actual sales come from you - BUT if they redirect it to someone else then they are actually STEALING traffic that was destined for you.


**sorry had a beer and may be typing fucked up - what are you huh'ing about? LMAO
Jay (08:22 PM) :
huh how do you do that?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:22 PM) :
How do you stop them?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:23 PM) :
Or you want to know how they are hi-jacking traffic destined for you?
Jay (08:23 PM) :
either
Xxxxxxxxx (08:31 PM) :
Stopping them: possible ways...
1) educate surfers - everyone who's against it go on an all out campaign to actually get those computers clean and make them aware that 'we' are not the ones doing this. (fat chance this industry will get together and be pro-active)
2) Don't do business with people who's traffic may come from there
3) Don't do business with people who accept this *and may actually be bidding on your stuff**
4) Be vigilant with your affiliates - check their traffic sources.

BUT - it's hard to track because you are affected in more ways than one:

1) If they hi-jack traffic destined for you, there's noway to 'track' that because they never hit your join page.
2) If they are actually sending to you - either by stealing your own keywords (meaning it was a type-in from an infected computer - it will install their code/cookie & you now have to pay a commission on it whereas you weren't supposed to) or by actually stealing from a good affiliate - you can probably find those by cross-checking your affiliate referral codes. Meaning - if the referrer is 'jays-xxx-links - there's no reason that JackBlack Affiliate should be showing that as a referrer right - unless he's buying a hardlink on your LinkList and promoting OCCash.

shahab6 10-09-2006 08:51 PM

he puts adware on your computer

Missie 10-09-2006 08:57 PM

There's a lot of misleading and incorrect information being passed on in these threads. Bottomline is the same though... zango is scum and helps or makes it easier for affiliates overwrite cookies.

Missie

Mike AI 10-09-2006 09:01 PM

This has been going on for years. Look around and you will see the jackels, and their supporters who are profiting from this.

RawAlex 10-09-2006 09:07 PM

Mike, how you doing? Kite any domains lately? ;)

Alex

MaddCaz 10-09-2006 09:07 PM

fuckersfuckersFUCKERS!!!

Trixxxia 10-09-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missie (Post 11036278)
There's a lot of misleading and incorrect information being passed on in these threads. Bottomline is the same though... zango is scum and helps or makes it easier for affiliates overwrite cookies.

Missie

Hi Missie,
Can you contact me - I have a few questions for you. Thanks.

Mike AI 10-09-2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11036328)
Mike, how you doing? Kite any domains lately? ;)

Alex

Kiting is so 2005....


:1orglaugh

Things are going well in Florida, thanks for asking. How are things with you?

RawAlex 10-09-2006 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike AI (Post 11036344)
Kiting is so 2005....


:1orglaugh

Things are going well in Florida, thanks for asking. How are things with you?

things are always good, changing, but good... I always love to rib you about successful ways that money has been made :)

Mike AI 10-09-2006 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11036358)
things are always good, changing, but good... I always love to rib you about successful ways that money has been made :)


We were late to the party with the kiting business, and not as well funded as the wall street guys. Those are the real cut throats!

will76 10-09-2006 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 11035901)
I am tryin to learn about it myself. I am reading every thread about it and Will76 seems to have much knowledge about it. He should be here soon (i hope)

hey guys I am here. I was away the last 2 days. Just getting back up to speed with all the post myself tonight. I will be replying to all the threads tonight before i sign off.

Missie and Kelly seem to tbe the most knowledgable here.

I got those vids fixed up Jay and will be posting it. Jay, if you are promoting zango on your sites ( think you said that for loljesus) that is something you really dont want to be doing. Shooting yourself in the foot.

Also do a search on GFY: zango, get some coffee and read over the post that were made here about them. It might take an hour to read it all but you will know all you need to know after about 10 mins.

will76 10-09-2006 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo (Post 11036035)
yo jay

i converted that funky codec wmv that will76 posted into windows media 9 so you can see what its doing

http://www.bitaudiovideo.com/will76/...s-com-wmv9.wmv

btw never had a chance to thank you for the hardlink so thanks!

Rich

Hey thanks Rich, if you guys provide video editing services i know who to get to do work for me now. I have a bigger version that was converted to flash that i will be posting, shit let me get it now , i will post here and in the other thread...

http://www.teamclickcash.com/tmp/jayxxxlinks.html (scroll down, it is kinda big, you want to see the bottom of the screen too).

xxxjay 10-10-2006 09:54 PM

I don't promote Zango dude...never have

never will

BitAudioVideo 10-10-2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11036944)
Hey thanks Rich, if you guys provide video editing services i know who to get to do work for me now.

yep, i can edit from most any source.


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