A question to Donny ... very serious!
 

So isn't what your doing considered having double standards? you are getting out of this business for whatever reasons but yet you still post here?

I am confused. How does that work? are we not all sinners in your new life?


I am being totally serious here. :warning

Please Advise!

god loves us all

good point id say

I know you are asking him but.. maybe it's difficult to leave your past behind quickly? GFY is kind of like a support group, albeit a fucked up one lol. :1orglaugh

Except for you, Fris. :thumbsup

It's not fucked up. I mean you cleanse in life, then you better cleanse everything including your past!

God loves fris too

hey i goto church every sunday!

(serious)

...but is this the all forgiving god, or the all knowing god? 'cuz I think the latter one would have exceptions. ;)

God loves porn, I saw JC in some amateur vids he did back in the day.

good question!

I was gonna post that in his $72k thread.... but thought I should just leave it alone.

It seemed odd to me that he was done with the industry and yet felt this overwhelming need to share with the entire industry what his income would be.

It's forbidden by god to talk with "sinners" ? This is news to me.

Shit ..

I can not believe I made that mistake in my post ..

I was trying to write something else and I changed it and fucked up.

Your = You're ( the shame) :disgust :disgust

Why does everyone keep making this jump? Believing in God does not mean you are stuck with 1 set way of doing things. Everyone makes their own choices and interprets things how they want to, leave it alone people.

god loves me :)

It is only partiall to do with god. We are not talking about interpretation

I am talking leving the industry. GFY IS the industry. There are naked pictures, Banners all kinds of things that promote Porn (what DOnny is leaving behind)

:2 cents:

He used to do gay porn with Satan, prior to their falling out.

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GFY Church coming soon to the screens near you!

Things were never the same after there love spat.
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is that boyalley on the right?

That wasn't JC, that was me back in the day with my long hair.

( I got to do a JC cameo in "Orgazmo" as a result)

Donny is on his way up to Seattle and will be stopping by my place shortly and I will let him know about the thread when he gets here.

Did u guys jump right into porn when you started? Seriously. Didn't you have other jobs before you went full time with this? I think it is like anything else... you gradually take the steps. Did you just decide one day that you were going to do porn full time and then up and quit your job the same day? Probably not and that is not what donny is trying to go either. He simply just does not want to shoot anymore and do this business for himself. He doesn't dislike the industry as a whole he just hates how it made him feel after doing it for 8 years. I am sure we will all get the answers we need when HE figures them out for himself.

I love that. Isn't that point of view precisely which makes it so easy for non-believers to be so disparaging about organized religions?

I have never understood the idea that all-powerful, all-seeing beings, who are frequently reputed to be concerned about everything down to how you dress and wear your hair, really don't care when someone ignores whichever of their laws that person happens to find inconvenient.

Surely that is why we have the contradiction in terms of Christian fundamentalism: people who are turned on by the old fire and brimstone but prefer not to be Jewish, so they call themselves Christian and simply ignore the new testament. I know there is the get-out clause that we can repent after, but how can you genuinely repent something you knowingly did (or didn't do) over and over?

i don't des it mean he doesn't love me :helpme :(

Eeew. Teh BoyAlley doesn't have a hairy chest......

Actually I think your mistaken. Based on what he said to the girl on phone calling for a job he has a low opinion of the industry. Now considering he is going into one of the slimiest fields in the world, he shouldnt judge a soul but ********* is a porn hate group. I would be surprised if he didnt turn on us eventually.

You have to compare apples to apples -

I started in Adult instantly. I went from working in Retail to working as a sales rep for Club Love -

Now with Religion you can not use this analogy. What we do in the adult business is SIN. What we do here on GFY is SIN.
If you have found religion then there is NO WAY you can take your time and move away slowly PERIOD!

:2 cents:

i concur :thumbsup

Has Donny ever talked about 'Sin' in his explanations for his choices?

not that i can see...nor has he ever said that anyone in this industry is a sinner...seems to me he's just being true to his feelings.
how can people really give him shit for that?

Let his church know :)

That's exactly how I feel. He has passed no judgement on anyone but himself. On the contrary, many within the industry have judged him.

He still posts here???

I am not giving him shit.

And sin is implied when it comes to religion and porn.

If you want to argue semantics, we can be here all year LOL

to quit posting on gfy is a hard and long prosess! It's like beeing a heroin addict!

people are being way too hard on Donny - he never said the industry or porn was evil - he comes from a background with a pastor as a dad, that never leaves you, i'm sure for the last 8 years he thought every day about what he was doing, whether it made him bad or not - and he was involved in the porn industry on a level 95% of webmasters never touch - actively recruiting girls into porn - pretty innocent stuff he shot but it's still porn - if people think there are thousands of girls knocking down people's doors to get into nude modeling/porn - it's not so, you are doing a sales job on them and yeah sometimes it does not feel good because you know she's probably not doing it for the right reasons - i don't think it's anything terrible because i've arrived at the conclusion that the girls who get into porn all come with their own baggage - doing porn isn't the first mistake they've made and it won't be the last - it's not like you are taking some innocent college freshman who was headed for a medical degree, a great husband and family in the future and seduced her from her path to success and a healthy successful life. and he never said he was buying hook, line and sinker into the born again christian world - so he has no problem interacting and hanging out with porn people - maybe that will change over time - who knows

Is that John Travolta on the left??

While I haven't talked to Donny about this - I don't know what his motivations are. He is probably hanging out here because he counts many of the people that post on the board as friends.

While I'm not a theologist or even a very enlightened person when it comes to all of the various sects - - I understand that some religions (such as catholicism) believe everybody is a sinner and you must repent to God and ask for forgiveness. And it's also part of the Catholic (and judeo christian) culture to spread the word of god. Only Donny can answer why he's hanging out here... but it might be that he accepts his friends faults / sins ... realizing that everybody sins and that he is no different. Maybe it's a sin he has decided he isn't going to commit any more but that he isn't going to judge other people for committing it. OR maybe he's posting here and telling people of his rebirth / awaking ... as a way to try to show some other people that you always have the ability to chose another path. I don't really think it matters what his reason is for deciding to continue to post here (god knows there are enough people that aren't in the industry that filter through here). I've always thought he was a nice guy and I for one, wouldn't mind hearing updates from people that have come and gone from the industry.

I tend to ramble and for that I'm sorry ... but the last point I want to make is that I don't believe what I do is a sin. at least it doesn't violate my sense of right and wrong or morality. I take softcore / masturbation pics of college girls. I believe that the girls I work with are smart enough to make the decision... they want to show off their bodies and express their sexuality. And for the customers that are buying my content... I'm giving them a release for their sexual energy. Somebody might say that desire and lust is a sin. I don't feel the same way ... I think it's a healthy and positive thing. The most righteous and moral individuals - are still turned on by something - be it a romance novel, "desperate housewives", maxim magazine, the delivery guy, your spouse or signifcant other. sex is a healthy thing. masturbation is another outlet for that energy. and porn helps facilitate some people's fantasies. just because we profit off of that... i don't believe that makes us sinners (note I also don't think masturbation or lust is a sin) ... anymore so than I think the producers of desperate housewives, or the editors of cosmo are sinning by making their material sexy and suggestive.

GFY is like crack you have to post on GFY weather you're in porn or not.


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Very well said Mutt !

Haven't seen a Donny post in awhile. Plus he starts work in a few days. Suspect, you won't see much of him here?????

I think there are other boards for the born again....

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