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Your first design was the best -> The one with the magician's hand. This one is too.... mainstream (?).
Also, can you have more webmaster resource buttons on the bottom of the page? You don't have enough :P
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AMP, you live in Hawai'i? I'm moving there this summer. Tell me how it is
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well... it's more of a cameo appearance..... I'm still in Silicon Valley tonight and our big ass farewell party is on Saturday..... we fly Monday morning, and Net access will be a long damn time comin'.... probly not until the 15th....
so.... just thought I'd get this new version up and get my board feet wet again before I make a huge disappearance......
but when I get back... I'll be back with new gear, new software, and a whole new studio......
surfin' at a moments notice and da brews are on me.
wish i had that talent myself, or some lackey to do it for me for free or real cheap.. i don't have the kind of cash to front for fancy design (especially since right now i wouldn't have a site to take advantage of it..)
but if i ever have a couple $k for a full-out paysite or something else.. i will hit you up. i love your work.
Are those new mafiaporn tours done after ZayneE's suggestions? Or was the first? Is there any difference in conversion rates between the two? I see Snow has changed to the the new tour.
Originally posted by Disil Are those new mafiaporn tours done after ZayneE's suggestions? Or was the first? Is there any difference in conversion rates between the two? I see Snow has changed to the the new tour.
excuse me?
Zayne had suggestions?
I fail to see what Zayne has to offer to anything.
Originally posted by Disil Also, what new software would you be using? Every designer here seems to use Photoshop, Imageready and Fireworks. Nice work on the site.
Though I would definitely be interested in knowing about the conversion ratio differences between the 2 tours. If the text really helps sales, I think most paysite designers will start putting in buckets of text in their tours now.
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I'm kinda like a Lamborghini dealer.... "If you gotta ask, you probly can't afford it."
dude your designs are tight and everything but your a LITTLE to cocky about it...if you wanted to get technical,there are a lot of guys at webinc who would crush your stuff don't make the guy feel like a fool just because he wanted some pricing... word is,your tours don't do much anyways,pretty isn't always money...
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dude your designs are tight and everything but your a LITTLE to cocky about it...if you wanted to get technical,there are a lot of guys at webinc who would crush your stuff don't make the guy feel like a fool just because he wanted some pricing... word is,your tours don't do much anyways,pretty isn't always money...
ahhhh.... I see we need the standard 1st grade spelling out of things here.
Clue #1: It is not uncommon at all to NOT list prices nowadays for design work, because of the fact that every kid out there with a bootleg copy of Photoshop thinks they can avoid working at Taco Bell simply because they found a crack.
Clue #2: Who the fuck are you and why the fuck should I listen to a goddamned word you say?
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
ahhhh.... I see we need the standard 1st grade spelling out of things here.
Clue #1: It is not uncommon at all to NOT list prices nowadays for design work, because of the fact that every kid out there with a bootleg copy of Photoshop thinks they can avoid working at Taco Bell simply because they found a crack.
Clue #2: Who the fuck are you and why the fuck should I listen to a goddamned word you say?
lol I'm not trying to argue because I honestly do like your shit and it's better than 9 out of 10 people you will find anywhere...but you don't have to be a dick about it that's all I'm saying... I'm not telling you to put prices on your site either,but whoever that guy is asked where your prices were and you belittle him... If i were you I would be at least have way nice to get as much business as you can while you're on this GFY design contest promotion high lol....
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Originally posted by nocostporn you don't have to be a dick about it that's all I'm saying... I'm not telling you to put prices on your site either,but whoever that guy is asked where your prices were and you belittle him...
fair enough.
I wasn't.... (belittling him). he wasn't asking for prices. If he was serious, he would have contacted me and not made some snide comment on a bbs. A snide comment deserves one in return. I'm very well versed in this game. I don't list prices for a reason. If someone wants work done, they know how to contact me. If they don't, they don't. Unlike the droves of spammers that come and go throughout the day, I don't need to whore myself out to every 40 post flake bitching about me not listing prices of $5 bucks a banner on my site. I could fucking care less. I'm not here to win popularity status. Never have been.
Am I cocky? Sure.
Webinc? Yeah, they got some nice stuff..... sharky has my respect..... so do alot of other people.
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
fair enough.
I wasn't.... (belittling him). he wasn't asking for prices. If he was serious, he would have contacted me and not made some snide comment on a bbs. A snide comment deserves one in return. I'm very well versed in this game. I don't list prices for a reason. If someone wants work done, they know how to contact me. If they don't, they don't. Unlike the droves of spammers that come and go throughout the day, I don't need to whore myself out to every 40 post flake bitching about me not listing prices of $5 bucks a banner on my site. I could fucking care less. I'm not here to win popularity status. Never have been.
Am I cocky? Sure.
Webinc? Yeah, they got some nice stuff..... sharky has my respect..... so do alot of other people.
Am I a dick? When have I NOT been a dick.
Bottom line: I just don't give a shit.
that's what I like!... now I have no argument with you
and NOW I'll be hitting you up in a month for a couple sites...(those gallery style tours you have are going to be stolen so fast lol)
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people with 100+ sites in their portfolio earn the right...
how do you know I don't have 400 sites in the backend? You don't. You know what I show you. And if that's 20 or 30 sites.... that's what you know. But what's on the other side? What are you NOT seeing?
Originally posted by Disil
Also, what new software would you be using? Every designer here seems to use Photoshop, Imageready and Fireworks. Nice work on the site.
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I'm not every designer.
Still not sure what new software you can use. Except maybe Fireworks MX and photoshop 7, which is what I assume what most designers here use. They also use Flash which you dont seem to. I have all the latest in graphic software with me, though I still let my designers do the paysite designing.
Anyway your designs are not good enough that I would pay something I can't afford. A lot of great designers here who work for $1200 per site and they do flash as well. I'll stick to the tried and tested that convert for me instead. From my experience I can tell you those tours on your portfolio will not convert well at all. Sites like Ninaknowsbest.com convert, not stuff with lots of circles and rectangles and lines and dots and stylish fonts and photoshop filters. They would definitely be more suited for more mainstream work rather than paysite tours. But mainstream work require those same dots lines and jiggles in flash format.
Surfers only want one thing - good pictures and lots of them, not good design - give them the simplest of layout with quality updated pictures and they will come flocking back. You have to sell the site's content to them, not the design. A complicated design will scare off many dialup surfers. It's a skill selling the content, and unfortuntely it does not have much to do with photoshop or flash skills. Your main site design seems to be making that mistake as well - trying to sell yourself off as one of those make-money-quick schemes instead of just showing your work. There are very few paysite tours in your portfolio- you still seem to be on the learning curve as far as paysite tours are concerned.
If you really want to learn, check out the designs on sites that convert - bangbus, realbutts, karupspc, karas amateurs, blacksonblondes. You wont find fancy graphics on any of them. I can safely bet no experienced sponsor is going to use your services for paysite tours with those designs in your portfolio.
Still not sure what new software you can use. Except maybe Fireworks MX and photoshop 7, which is what I assume what most designers here use. They also use Flash which you dont seem to. I have all the latest in graphic software with me, though I still let my designers do the paysite designing.
Pfft, what are you, a n00b? You want the greatest Graphics Application in the world?
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