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entrprnr 06-27-2002 03:37 PM

Business ownership information, please read . (Kross)
 
WARNING: this is a pretty long-winded post.

This in reference to a post provided by Kross, but instead of replying in his thread, I thought it might be helpful for others to see it in general.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kross

Hey all, I have a quick question and im sure all of you could answer it. Acouple of people I know want to make an adult site. There will be a total amount of 4 people. Im not sure what legal stuff they would have to do? Partnership ? Anyplace online that they could do it? Thanks
Ok, heres a fairly knowledgable breakdown of how you might want to go with your business...

Sole Proprietership
# of owners:
1
How to Form:
Just do it.
Level of Personal Liability:
Unlimited
Tax Consequences:
Owner Pays
Ability to transfer ownership:
totally transferrable

Partnership
# of owners:
2 or more
How to Form:
verbal or written agreement
Level of Personal Liability:
unlimited for general partners, limited partners can lose up to the amount they've invested
Tax Consequences:
individual partners must pay
Ability to transfer ownership:
may need consent of other partners

"C" Corporation
# of owners:
unlimited
How to Form:
follow rules set by state law
Level of Personal Liability:
only the amount you've invested
Tax Consequences:
corporation pays on earnings; shareholders pay on dividends
Ability to transfer ownership:
totally transferable

"S" Corporation
# of owners:
up to 35, must be U.S. citizens or residents
How to Form:
follow rules set by state laws and the IRS
Level of Personal Liability:
Only the amount you've invested
Tax Consequences:
individual shareholders pay
Ability to transfer ownership:
May be limited in order to preserve "S" status


Limited Liability Corporation (LLC)
# of owners:
2 or more
How to Form:
follow rules set by state law
Level of Personal Liability:
only the amount you've invested
Tax Consequences:
individual owners pay
Ability to transfer ownership:
generally need consent of all owners

Generally, the Sole proprietership is ALWAYS the best way to go; YOU have control of your business and YOU decide which way it goes. However, if you need additional people to get started, usually the best way to go is a Partnership.
Both are easy to set up--You don't have to file any special forms or pay any fees to start. Additionally, there are'nt any special rules governing your operation.

I won't even go into corporations, the odds of anyone going public with an adult site are pretty slim. Besides, issuing stock options and going public are both very confusing and time and money intensive, most webmasters are filled to the brim with responsibility and cannot afford this investment. For those that are interested, however, you can refer to the link below for more info.

THE best way to go if you are afraid of risk and are using invested dollars, is a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC).
You can have Limited Liability Partnerships, as well, and this is probably the smartest way to go. LLC's are great, because you get the same protection that a corporation gets (as far as owner liability is concerned) but the simplicity and flexibility offer a helluva advantage over corps.

You can refer to www.nolo.com for more information. If you have any questions, you can contact me.
ICQ: 163385497

Thanks for listening.:thumbsup

Also: Please keep some sort of thread going for awhile on this post....I think this is probably pretty useful for some people.

XXXPaysiteDesign 06-27-2002 05:48 PM

I think most all of us know the basics of business..

Brown Bear 06-27-2002 05:52 PM

this is a business now?

pornJester 06-27-2002 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
I think most all of us know the basics of business..
Give the guy a break, he's just trying to help...

XXXPaysiteDesign 06-27-2002 06:17 PM

I wasn't trying to be negative, he posted that nobody was responding to his thread on another topic and I feel the reason is because there's no need to.

cold_ice 06-27-2002 06:22 PM

hey dude props to you for trying to help

entrprnr 06-27-2002 06:27 PM

Originally, i was trying to reply to a thread started by Kross about business ownership, and it ended up being pretty long, and i thought it would be a useful resource, so i made it a newpost instead.
sorry for the bullshit, i was just trying to help those who might be interested or did'nt know.

Just forget the whole thing.

CC 06-27-2002 09:07 PM

Great post, entrprnr. However, from my own experience, being a sub s corporation (rather than a partnership) has saved me a lot of money on tax breaks. My business consists of just 2 people (both of us being the only shareholders), including myself. My best advice to people just starting out is to educate yourself and talk to an accountant (and a lawyer). Hopefully, they will guide you in the appropriate direction for your needs.

Cassie

FierceHost 06-27-2002 09:20 PM

nice post, I think its gonna teach alot of people some stuff they didn't learn in business and ecanomics in school ;) they was too busy thinking about looking at porno when they get home instead of listening :1orglaugh

Kross 06-27-2002 09:34 PM

Thank you so much... It was very helpful... Don't listen to anyone who is doggin you... They are just jealous of you Hah...

Anyone know of any good billing processors besides
ccbill, paycom
they want like 20 %
anyone?

mike503 06-27-2002 11:26 PM

yeah, good post.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2002 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kross
Don't listen to anyone who is doggin you... They are just jealous of you Hah...
yeah that's it..... we're jealous.

Dax 06-27-2002 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kross
Thank you so much... It was very helpful... Don't listen to anyone who is doggin you... They are just jealous of you Hah...

Anyone know of any good billing processors besides
ccbill, paycom
they want like 20 %
anyone?


Yeah, jesusbilling.com charges 2.9% :Graucho :1orglaugh

playa 06-27-2002 11:43 PM

if your in this business you should always protect yourself,,

if your making some serious paper you should seperate your entity and maintaining a sole propriertorship is too dangerous,,

BTW,, one person can form an LLC,,, and you can do it yourself without paying someone,,,,

ReFresh 08-05-2002 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
if your in this business you should always protect yourself,,

if your making some serious paper you should seperate your entity and maintaining a sole propriertorship is too dangerous,,

BTW,, one person can form an LLC,,, and you can do it yourself without paying someone,,,,

Can you elaborate on this a little? It's a good thread. A lot of us need help, and don't really want to do any more "learning by trial and error" than necessary.

Thanks,
ReFresh

ReFresh 08-05-2002 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
Yeah, jesusbilling.com charges 2.9% :Graucho :1orglaugh
I tried checking them out and got a 404. Are they already gone? Or, did I screw up somehow, or are they the same as jesuscash.com?

Thanks,
ReFresh

hybrid 08-05-2002 07:23 AM

Unfortunately, entrprnr was horribly disfigured in a freak accident involving a pair of pliers, a cucumber and a wedding gown.:(

We tried to save him, but unfortunately we could'nt get the chicken head from the Shaman in time to do anything useful.

Sorry.


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