And this is why China must be crushed
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Jun26.html


China Executes 64 on Anti-Drug Day

u r right

Tibet should rule china!!!!:thumbsup

It doesn't bother me that they execute people for being drug dealers.

Why does it bother you?

Did you read the article? Did they prove they were drug dealers?
I think the article says accused of drug crimes!!!!
What sort of drugs were they?
Obviously not caffeine, nicotene, alcohol, sedatives, headache pills, tea, coca-cola (refer to caffeine) or a host of other drugs we have been conditioned to accept it is ok to but, use or resell as long as we pay tax on them. Now that's not funny.

And China's credibilty for judicial impartiality is highly questionable given Tiannimen Square and their forced rule of Tibet and more.

There is a lot of angles to things that are not one dimensional and one sided.

If people want to take drugs then that is their perogitive - I think most ppl heer know my history with drugs and even though I haven't taken any kind of drugs in 3 years - except for some alcohol when I was in the US - I thnk that if ppl want to have them then let them go right ahead ...
after all - so long as they are not pushing drugs on anyone else or affecting anyone else (i DO NOT condone stealing etc from others to support a habit) then the only person they are hurting is themselves.

Ok so some of these people were dealers - oops sorry let me get it right ... they were ACCUSED dealers - it doesn't say they had any evidence - i think China just wanted to make a show) but do you know what happens everytime the law takes a dealer off the street or makes a huge drug bust haul????

They just push the street value up becuase the drug becomes harder to get - if the price goes up then more crimes are comitted so that addicts can get their hit. Dealers become even more rich and more poepl are drawn to the lure of becoming a dealer and making big $$$

So the whoel thing is a viscious circle..
the solution?
dont' ask me I'm just a interested observer.

maybe if peopel were taught how to get high on life and the governments stopped wating so much $$ on nukes etc they could keep ppl occupied in other ways


If they want to shoot someone who REALLY deserves it - how about lining up all the Poachers of Endangered Spoecies that China is so famous for


my 2 cents

"In the southwest city of Chengdu, nine men were shot Tuesday after a rally in which thousands cheered as police burned piles of seized heroin and Ecstasy, a state-run newspaper said"

... hmmm, doesn´t read that those 9 were convicted drug dealers. maybe they just shot them for the fun of it ... the chinese for sure know how to party ...

I love it how Americans think another country should be "crushed" because the way they run their own country.

Does the US not execute people as well?

Anyway I think drug dealers should be shot on the spot - look at this quote:

"Drug use was all but wiped out after the Communist Party swept to power in 1949. Dealers were shot and addicts forced to quit cold turkey. But drugs returned with relaxed social and economic controls in the 1980s."

Proof that being cut-throat actually worked. 64 dead drug dealers is a good thing. Congrats to China.
BTW how many people DIE each year to drugs or get HIV from a dirty needle?
How many homes are broken into so a junky can get cash for his next hit?
I could go on & on - drugs cause alot of problems.

If they killed proven drugdealers - who cares?

that doesn't exactly constitute proof..
where is the quote from? China says they have about a third of the HIV infected people than they really do.. you can't really trust much of what is said in that arena..
and thats not even getting onto the fact that shooting dealers and forcing people to go into coldturkey in 50's communist china is about a zillion lightyears away from the US..
It would never work.. just wait for the first 50 middle class kids to get shot selling a $20 of weed to a friend and it's all over.
punishment that heavy handed only works in a totalitarian or military regime where conjecture and hearsay can convict and appearance are more important than fact.

implanting every baby with a tracking and info chip in their spine would also cut down on drug use.. but it's also not going to happen.. you can't have it both ways.. orwellian and crime free.. or freedom with a certain amount of crime. you try to strike a balance.. and shooting dealers isn't a balance.. unless you're just talking about a fe of the convicted bigwigs.. inwhich case thats not going to stop the average guy on the street. Cutting of thieves hands in afghanistan doesn't stop all the thieves either..

I agree the chinese are out of friggin control. How about all the stuff about chinese herbal medicine - many americans find it to be a "natural alternative" to traditional medicine. However it is because of chinese medicine that the rhino has been hunted almost to extinction. Not to mention what they do to those poor bears to get their bile? What the fuck?

How can you expect them to improve their human rights record when their freakin policy on all life on the planet sucks.

oops..i meant :thumbsup

mark china off as one place i never want to vacation.:stoned

it is harsh but it is effective... most chinese people dont end up in the newspaper as criminals..

They don't have to implant babies with tracking devices they just have to start getting women to have natural births again.

Research has shown that babies who are born in hospitals or to mothers who are given drugs during labour are PREDISPOSED to being drug addicts.

It is a well documented fact that almost ALL caesareans are unecessary and it's only liek .01% of births that do need drugs or or ceasarean.


So if we start reeducating women to give birth naturally that will be a big step in makign sure the up and coming generations are not so prone to drug use.


Oh yeah - and NOWHERE in that report does it say that the people shot were PROVEN drug dealers - they could have just been some bums off the street that the governmet shot to make themsleves look good.

ok, so I guess reeducating women to no longer give birth at all will wipe out all of our problems ...

bravo!

Is this sarcasm or do you agree with me?
I'm confused. :1orglaugh

The US can only comment on these things. Some US States only execute because enough people will vote for the govenor who promotes it.

If you really care about what China does and want to protest. Look at the label on all the clothes you buy, or any other product.

Because while you are complaining your leaders are there signing trade deals. That will close factories and put Americans out of work.

There was a program on UK TV, that said immediately after the execution the body is taken to a near by hospital. Where the vital organs are removed for sales to GUESS WHERE?

The country with the highest number of private doctors, hospitals and operations.

I agree with you silly :winkwink:

"Executions in China are usually by gunshot to the back of the head or through the heart."

At least they know how to properly execute someone :)

Labret is right. You do not murder people unless they're proven guilt in an impartial court of law.

Why the fuck is that so hard to understand?

If you're accused of dealing drugs do you think it's fair that a government blow your head off? No, because you know you're innocent.

Accusations are bullshit. People accuse people of doing things everyday that they actually DID NOT do. If you want a fair and just system, you cannot murder people on the basis of accusations.

Some aspects of Chinese culture are more refined than Americans and some aspects of American culture are more refined than Chinese culture. Clearly, American culture is ahead in this respect. Simple and plain.

I'll reiterate, why the fuck is this simple concept so difficult to comprehend? If you actually defend shit like this, then why is it that you prefer to live in a society that does not condone such actions? Live under that bullshit regime for a year and then tell us how great it is.

"You do not murder people unless they're proven guilt in an impartial court of law. "

That may be the case in United State but wake up! China is their own country and do what they want as they want! Chinese law is no Americain law! That is for sure!

Every country don't have to be lead like the US!

I am not for it I just think they have another way of thinknig and they are running their country as they think is right. And for the way they do it I would chose not to live there! Simple

and what about malaysia for that matter, they even kill tourist for drug possession! It is stamped on your passport when you enter the country, drug use = death penalty!

All these countries just need to mellow out and smoke some pot

Following this line of reasoning, the MidEast conflict will be resolved when Sharon and Arafat smoke a hooka [sp?] together filled with the most primo Afghan skunk available while watching Phish videos. For munchies they grub on Falafel and lamb kabobs. For music, some Ofrah Haza.

Not gonna happen.

Crushing China haha
really diffucult

we tried it for 500 years

nope ever chinese means 5 chinese

they reproduce faster than rats when they need

China executes THOUSANDS of people every year not just for drug crimes but even for vaguely defined offenses as "hooliganism". The death penalty is widely supported in China as income disparities rise. Many Chinese think that it is an effective way of deterring economic corruption. If that is true, why is there a perceived "crime wave" sweeping China--specially in the coastal region? Can it be that economic liberalization leads to behaviors perceived as "crimes"? Are there other legal strategies and reactions to these behaviors than criminal punishment?

Its very interesting to note that economic growth when mixed with archaic criminal systems produces high levels of executions: 18th century England went through an execution frenzy as the Industrial Revolution emerged in that country, the United States' "wild west" region saw an explosion in lynchings and mob justice as it underwent a gold rush-powered economic expansion, Brazil's interior was the site of hundreds of vigilante killings in the 1970's as the Amazon interior became commercialized and plugged into the rest of the Brazilian economic infrastructure.

Eventually, the criminal systems and/or [more importantly] criminal procedures in the examples above were changed. We can only hope China goes through the same process.

what is the world coming too teehee ;(

don't do drugs - they can fuck you up





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Population control (with a bullet)

http://www.cpirc.org.cn/eindex.htm

Fair and impartial judicial system? USA? LMAO!! Ya - so that's why big business men and drug dealers have expensive lawyers - to prove their 'innocence'. Of course, silly me.

Wake the fuck up - bad drug dealer, naughty boy - have a bullet. Fuckin bleeding heart liberals.

Their anti-drug system works, the US's doesn't - plain and simple. The US could have given doctorates to all the poor kids who do drugs instead of spending $$billions on 'The war against drugs'.

I don't understand why you're so interested in China ... who cares?

There's worse places in the world ... and about having to 'crush' China ... what the fuck??

Who gives a shit.

Bad things happen all over the world.

Is it just a geographical version of penis-envy??!

ameri-guys tried it on Arabs, a nice little 911 paid u back
opps, dont try it china, or ameri-guys will cry like rats, :1orglaugh

well, every country has their own law fits them
but ameri-guys dont seem to know that
u.s knows no shit about the middle-east, but they THINK they do, they spoil shit there, US are the one who deserve the suicide-bombs, hope the Palestine guys realize that soon , and have fun in the UNITe STates:1orglaugh

It's all relative! China's system, and history (as <i>Firehorse</i> noted), make the yankies look like saints!

Ever seen Red Corner? It's testament to how wrong their justice system is.

Edit: Ooooh Return to Paradise is another relevent movie, it's about (yanky visitor's) execution as a result of hash posession, albeit set in Malaysia.

Dude, that's NOT funny.

The leaders need to smoke a little, it will chill them the fuck out!

stop crying

the Chinese are smart -- they don't need the help of GFY

See? Drugs can kill you!

You guys already know my stance on drugs. Someone here mentioned something about "getting high on life". That's the only thing I get high off of. Don't need to take some mind altering substance to make me feel 110%.

Drugs are no different than alchohol people. An escape for some, relaxation for others. Something to do on holidays for some.

Get it through your thick communist skulls.

<b>Tou-ché !</b>

*bowl*

ve vill crrrruuussh you like the pig you are!

bwahahahahah

PORN is illegal in some places too.

not that i'm against free speech, but someone please shoot this fucker?

bang bang, you're dead.

thanks.

I read somewhere that they charge the family of the dead for the price of the bullet.

If they killed 63 drug dealers and 1 innocent man, is that ok too?



you bunch of braindead fuckwads...

:feels-hot :feels-hot :feels-hot

:1orglaugh