time travel?
 

Considering the entire span of future human existance, if time travel ever becomes possible, or if we ever are to figure out how to travel beyond the speed of light, wouldn't we already know it?

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One would think so. If you really think about it, I don't see how time travel is possible. Think of all the effects and repercussions it would have on itself, repeatedly.

You gotta look at the whole 'building a bomb then sending it back to blow itself up' thing. If it were possible seriously fucked up shit could happen. Many theorists believe it may even destroy the universe as we know it so is unlikely to be possible because of that.

Dont you have to assume that every second of existence is being played out one a different level or something. Im no scientist, so im not sure if i make sense, but why wouldnt this time, be the only time.

I'm actually from the year 3027. My real name is Gorgon and I come from the planet Bastilon-5.

By day, I sell porn, but at night I'm a crime fighting superhero.

Time is areally a substance, study flight patterns, and even space travel, when space crafts travel in space, they do not travel straight, time curves and winds twisting.

The answer is in flight patterns.

You get down to the quantum stuff and there's evidence that particles can see a short way into the future. I wont elaborate because I'm really shaky on this. It's stuff I used to read shit loads of in my younger days and I'm sure the memory's now on its way out.

Hmmmm, ok, but if i travel back in time 1 year, where am i going that life is 1 year behind current time?

Does that make sense?

i dont believe in time travel..i believe in freezing bodies and bringing them back to life though

and making babies outside of the human body and developing in a box like the matrix

So do i, but that will take place in the same time line that we are in.

Time travelling would be cool...

Yes it does Gary. The time travel theory has to rely on shadows of yesterdays for us to exist within if we were to visit the past.

I believe time travel is possible, but humans will never have the ability to do it.

Just because its beyond the physical capabilities of humans, doesn't mean that it isn't possible.

I see what you're saying. Alternate demsions :)




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Ah yes, but humans as we know them will soon 'evolve' in to human-oids - genetically superior, and made to survive and endure all sorts or things - like traveling great distances in city-size vehicles to teraforming planets and creating genetically adaptable forms of themselves wherever they might be for a millennia or two. This will take the rest of history to play out. It should follow that within this span of existence the technology would eventually be there, no?

there are a lot of people that believe in a/multiple parallel universe(s). for instance. this msg board is in our universe, but it could be in another universe but it has nothing to do with the adult industry.... it could be run by microsoft in a parallel universe. and gw wouldn't be president, rather a porn star... makes you think, but at the same time it makes you think all these fucks are stupid for wasting their time on a parallel universe. even if they find out there is one, they can't get there. i ususally only talk about stuff like this while heavily intoxicated.

Again in the quantum world there's even quite good evidence that parallel universes exist.

you mean you're not? :1orglaugh

Didn't Einstein have a few theroies on this shit. That the faster you travel, time will slow down, and if we learn to travel faster then light, we can actually start going back in time...

I always thought it would be cool if we could shoot a camera in space fast enough to catch the light given off from earth from the last hundreds and thousands of years. If the camera was strong enough we could find out so many things, how we started, how the dinosaurs really died, who shot jfk....

We could even watch adam and eve go at it for the first time, bet he made a few mistakes first and fucked her in the butt a few times....

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We could make a fortune selling that as porn on the web....

like that good ol' show sliders?

If extraterrestrial life has actually visited here, they would have the ability to travel at the speed of light..

If some alien planet was 1000 lightyears away, it would take those travellers 1000 years to get here traveling at the speed of light. Which would also mean, they had the ability to travel at light speed 1000 years ago, which would also mean that, at present, they would have to be way way more advanced than we will ever think of being..

This makes the typical 'ufo' pictures hard to fathom because of their size.

Not to mention.. why would an alien form so advanced even want to bother swingin by ol' Mother Earth for a look-see...?

that's the whole point. is there really a past out there when you look in to the sky, or is old ass light the only thing out there.
and, are we prohibited from ever reaching the speed of light because we would turn to pure energy?

That's his theory of relativity..
You wouldn't actually go back in time, you could only look back in time.

As in: if you pass point 'A' travelling beyond light speed, you could look back and see yourself pass point 'A'... but only because you are travelling faster than the light reflection of you passing point 'A'.. so it would take longer for that reflection to catch up to you, however, you would have to slow down a bit to permit it to catch up for you to see it or you would continue to out run it.. so to speak...

Apparently they put several very acurate clocks in one or more of the space missions and proved the point. There were small differences showing on all clocks on the return.

You could say that when you look up, you are looking back in time, because some of the stars that you see burned out millions of years ago, but the light from those stars, from when they did exist, is just now getting here.

and.. the stars that you see that DO still exist are nowhere near the spot in the sky where you see them.

If you see a star that is 100 lightyears away, that means that what you are actually seeing is the light that was reflected from that star 100 years ago.

I'm not to strong in this area of science, but most stars are millions of light years away right? So pretty well ALL of the stars we see are probably gone right?

but if they had the ability to travel faster than the speed of light, say twice as fast, that's only 500 yrs... and i'm sure by now they can go way faster than that... not to mention worm holes... so they could have left their place around 6 this morning and be hoovering over your house by 6pm tonight...
now, if these aliens are so smart that they can be jetsetters of the universe, why the hell would they bother with us? there's go to be more interesting stuff...

unfortunately no, totally sober, but i just caught a wiff of a pretty potent dry erase marker

one big one still exists.:Graucho

That's possible, as well as all of the stars out there that we haven't even seen yet because they came into existence only a few hundred thousand years ago.

I see we have a whole flock of Uber-geeks here. I have been fascinated with time travel and light theory my whole life.

Time is relative. Pilots in super-sonic planes (F-16, SR-71, Concord, etc.) all exprerience time travel of a sorts. The faster something travels, the more mass it gains, it decreases in size, and time becomes shorter. Pilots traveling at super-sonic speeds actually lose time. Atomic clocks have been put in planes and synchronized with clocks on Earth. Upon landing, the pilots clocks are off by thousanths of a second, indicating that the pilots experienced a relative shift in time.

Super-sonic craft are designed to shrink at high speeds. They shrink fractions of an inch in high speed travel but they actually get heavier. The theory of faster-than-the-speed-of-light travel is impossible at the moment because in order to travel at the speed of light, your mass increases to consume the universe yet you would dissappear (black hole/worm hole theory).

Light is an amazing thing. No one knows what the hell it is yet we use it all the time without thinking. We have invented light bulbs and flashlights yet have absolutely no idea what it is. Theories abound but none of them fully encompass its properties.

I firmly believe that when we understand light the rest of the universe will open up to us.


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The ufo theory that they are humans from the future makes the most sense to me of all the ufo theories. If time travel is ever accomplished, I am sure that it would be tightly controlled and all travelers would have to make sure it was never revealed to the past.

Aw, hell. Who the fuck knows. I'm going to get drunk, high, and contemplate the meaning of life...


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yeah, just like nuclear fission and atomic power. there was to be tight regulation on that stuff too.


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there's also the thought (albeit apparent in some fictional books) that time travel creates bifurcations if you would travel in the past (i.e. a bifurcation is a split in the timeline, so if you went back and altered something you've essentially created an entire new timeline parallel to the original..)

but going into the future and coming back ahead of $depature_time would still be worthwhile i think. and it wouldn't ruin anything since the future is not decided (and if you traveled back to anything ahead of $departure_time, you couldn't create a bifurcation either.)

however, i do think we'd know about it, unless in the future they have time travel rules, and one of them is to be completely benign in past societies..

no shit. you know that if it where true then some future terrorist would get ahold of the time travel and fuck shit up. But then again, maybe the "time travel police" have come back and stopped all kinds of stuff we have no idea about.


Has anyone seen that movie with Tom Cruise by Steven Spielburg? Is it even out yet?


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I would say since time by definition is simply movement, then we would have to assume that to travel in time to the past would simply mean to *undo all that has been done (revearse all movement) this would mean the past is relative to what is current, meaning if we are ever able to travel in time to the past we would be finding people from the future "popping up in the now."

So because time in essence is also unlimited, sooner or later regardless of how *long it takes 1m years 100m years, proves that we will never travel backwards in time, because our *past has already proved it.

this prolly makes no sence at all :winkwink:

lets think bout it,,,

if time travel was possible than it would already be happening right now,,,

i think that's what the original post implies. :stoned

I love this board, one minute we're throwing insults (often at me) then we are debating the temperature of as girl (Is she hot?) And then straight into the possibility and effects of time travel, via solving world peace and religion also gets a helping hand.

Not bad for a bunch of perverts:1orglaugh

Not really, right now might be the latest point time and we haven't invented it.
You assume that time is already ahead of us and someone is coming back.
Our present time is someones past is what you think, but I think our present time is the furthest point in the human race so its impossible to be visited from the future right now.


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if the collective 'we' are living in the current time, and have no future, then 'we' are the furthest matter from the center of the universe, the big bang, and the beginning of time - whatever you want to call it. wouldn't that also mean the golden state warriors will make a worst to first turnaround snatching the confrence finals from those LA pussies and their trained shaved ape shazaam next year?

It would really suck if you were the first guy to step into a working time machine and go back a few years and in the last few seconds of your life realize that the Earth was in a different spot during the time you are visiting..

In space nobody can hear you scream "Oh shit! D'oh!"