Question about lightning system?
 

Hi GFY community. I have a question for photographers and people who have a deal with lightning systems. What kind of pro lightning system better for shooting adult content and other stuff ?Profoto? or ?Elingchrom? and what king of devices you will recommended umbrellas or softboxes, or I should mixed umbrellas and softboxes.
Thanxx for your help.

hey pro photogs? where you are?Help me pls

bump to find some help :)

I am using Alien Bees stuff ( www.alienbees.com )
I like it so far, I use a medium softbox on their B800 and 2 B800's using honeycombs.

make sure you use a light meter if using strobes

I was asking about Elinchrom Elinchromhttp://www.gassers.com/Images2005/elinchrom.jpg
http://www.gassers.com/Images2005/EL600s.jpg ELINCHROM STYLE 600S

ELINCHROM STYLE 600S
Major features:
Modern design. Aluminum chassis with heat resistant Polycarbonate housing. Robust, but lightweight for optimum portability. Ergonomically designed for ease of use.
Flash Durations-at full power1/2050 sec. In true Elinchrom tradition, unequalled "stopping power" plus ultra consistent output.
Recycling times-at full power. 0.3-1.5 sec. More flashes per minute whatever the power.
Internal Fan. 2 Fans provide performance, with low noise.
Thermal cut out. Efficient cooling ensures minimum inconvenience.
Flashtubes. Made in Switzerland, proven durability. Plug-in.
Reflector. The integral reflector is designed to maximize efficiency and even light distribution. The omega flashtube is precisely positioned 20 mm from the surface to avoid the inherent un-evenness of non-concentric flashtubes. Pyrex domes are optionally available.
ADF. Auto Dump Function. Rapid, ensuring efficient power correction.
Power Adjustment with ADF. Stepless power variation, 6 f-stops range with auto dump functions.
18 - 600 W/s
Remote Control Socket. 7 pin connection to hand set, transferring functions.
Photo Cell. Highly sensitive. Switchable on/off.
Charge Ready Beep. Switchable on/off.
Charge Ready Light/Open Flash. Green illuminated with rocker switch.
Multiple Synch Sockets. A traditional Elinchrom socket plus microphone jack permits a choice of cables.
Modeling Lamp. Double switches. On/off, proportional/full.
Reflector Fitting. Elinchrom standard bayonet, plus additional security breech lock. Accepts all Elinchrom/Prolinca accessories since 1974.
Umbrella Socket Centralized for optimum and even light distribution.
Die-Cast Metal Frame. Built tough for everyday rugged use.
Body Shell. Impact resistant. Conforms to highest fire retardant standards.
Compact and Lightweight Fits into standard existing Elinchrom case.
Maximum Flash Power:600ws
Power Range in Stops:6
Recycle Time (secs):0.3 -1.5 sec
Color Temperature:5500 ° K
Flash Duration:1/2050 sec
Standard Power Source:120V AC
Weight:5 lb 12 oz
Dimensions:8.25 x 5.5 in (length x diameter)
and about Profoto ComPact Plus 600 Special profoto http://www.pictureline.com/images/me...tPlus600_1.jpg

Profoto ComPact Plus 600 Special [CPPS] 600 Ws Overview

Convenient, economical and easy to set-up with modular light shaping tools. For the pro or photo enthusiast, Profoto ComPact units offer the simplest and most economical way to get the best quality of light with the Profoto modular system of light shaping tools.

The ComPact makes fine control of individual lights easy. They are ultimately simple, convenient, versatile, and more economical than generator plus head units. As a main light, they are usually used with an umbrella or other diffusion-type light shaping tool, such as the Profoto Softlight Reflector, often near full power. At lower settings, they can be placed close to the subject, to provide character lighting in portrait photography.

ComPact units have generator and fan cooled flash head built into one ?compact? unit, sometimes referred to as a ?monobloc.? They share the same quality of light as all other Profoto flash heads, and accept the same complete system of Profoto light shaping tools for Pro Acute heads as well as Pro 6 and Pro 7.

Profoto ComPact units provide very high light output, fast recycling, and short flash durations for their size. Efficient fan cooled design assures continuous heavy duty performance where other self contained units fail.

On location or in the studio, they are perfect for instant set-up and fast break-down. They are the ideal choice when the situation calls for the minimum amount of fuss and cables, such as with corporate portraits or industrial locations. With their light weight, small dimensions, and multi-voltage capability, one or several can be easily packed for travel, whether going alone, or with a crew. Profoto ComPact units are also perfect to supplement generator set-ups in the studio or on the road.

A removable Voltage Key Card allows instant adjustment of the line voltage anywhere in the world. Just switch power cables and modeling lamps.

Both 300Ws and 600Ws ComPacts can be selected in a ?special? version with a 150W (300Ws unit) or 250W (600Ws unit) halogen modeling lamp and frosted glass cover; or economical version with 100W tungsten modeling lamp. The ComPactPlus 1200 is supplied with a 500 watt modeling light.

Wich equipment is better Profoto or Elinchrom?

It really depends on the investment you want to make. I get a lot of stuff from here:
http://store.prostores.com/servlet/s...DS:SOLID+COLOR
I'd look into the cool flo kits with the umbrellas to start with, and a softbox is a necessity too.
It also sort of depends on what you are trying to shoot, and the feel you want to give it. i shoot a lot of darker stuff, so i tend to go with minimal lighting to set a certain mood.

Im a alien bees person my self

that's awesome info!

does anybody here use a "Profoto" or "Elinchrom" equipment?
DarkCircus - thanxx for the info

I guess nobody use such equipment!

I think most of us on GFY are using Alien Bees from past (and current) threads.

God damnit man, its LIGHTING!

No dude. He can't afford a flash so he waits for the lightning then takes a picture.

I swear by my dyna-lites, best system i have used for stills

Bump for you.Btw the best light is natural light whien the sun is out.Best pictures which i ever got is maden outside.

some solid advice:thumbsup

I have some Profoto lighting and LOVE IT! Out here in LA, Profoto is the shit. Every rental house stocks Profoto because that's what the pros wanna rent! Can't go wrong with Profoto :thumbsup

Dean I was waiting for your post. Thanxx a lot. You are the BEST:thumbsup

I never used any allien bees or whatever so I can't say anything about -
anyway try some real pro equipment instead of kids toys.
Hedler
Broncolor
Visatec

Thanxx a lot. I am checking the websites with this equipment right now

I have used Elinchrom and really like the quality of light, it has a high fashion look. Pro-foto is also top notch and you can go glam to natural with them. Alien Bees I use but personally regret it 98% of the time. Kino's I've rented and love but capturing action/motion was difficult for me, they just didn't seem fast enough. :2 cents:

Hit me on ICQ if you want to see examples.

Yes I wanna see the examples. Hitting you up at that moment.

http://www.amemco.net/Images/lightning.jpg

http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gal...Cajon1sos2.jpg

Make sure your models are grounded...

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I use Hensel and Bowens and I'm really happy with them.

Does this pic anyhow related to my thread?

Nope. i use a lot of JTL stuff. it's really lightweight, and since I do a lot of location stuff, it's easy to set-up, breakdown and take with.
There are certainly better quality lights than JTL out there, but it works well with what I do, and if there is a problem with them, they are very easy to replace.

http://www.thedarkcircus.com/8377.jpg
That's using a single jtl softbox.

Thtat's a nice shot! Impressive

lighting is physics. the higher dollar light setups like elinchrom are no better than my speedotron setups.

does not matter whether you use umbrellas or softboxes, it determines the look you want---i prefer umbrellas because they are easier to setup and travel better, and give a sexy look if used correctly.

just remember a general rule. you usually should bounce the light to to give good modeling on the figure and make the girls skin look good and give the "illusion" of ambiant lighting or reality.

softboxes do not bounce the light, they are direct light, and they introduce a different look which to my eye is more sterile or artificial, it is a glamour look yes, it is pretty yes, but for porn to get a guy's dick hard and get him to get his credit card out and buy a membership it ain't the best, because of this artificial look.

if you want to sell hubcaps or furniture use softboxs; if you want to sell porn use umbrellas.

:2 cents:

thanks!
It could actually be a little better, technically, if I had a fill light eliminating the shadow on the wall behind them. I didn't want ot do that, however, because my fill light was too bright, and therre wasn't enough space to move it far enough back without making the whole scene brighter than i wanted.

Someone once said the diffference betwen art and porn is the lighting. I, however, think that the line between the two is fine enough that you can cross it back and forth, and still create stunning content that people will pay for.
But I'm one of those weird people that likes to try new things and push the limits, and I will have to politely disagree with the quoted comments about having to have an overly bright scene to get someone to pay to look at the content.

Fo sho :)

Alien Bee's - one medium softbox and one accent light with honycomb at real low power
nothing wrong with the AB stuff

http://www.hopeparr.com/elizabeth/6553.jpg

Elinchrom are good - the recycle times are short but so is the tube life. I'm lucky if I get 4 months from one in a 600s head. Profoto is really, really great but if you don't know why, then you don't need it yet.

Elinchrom is all over Europe so getting spares and repairs is never a problem, profoto isn't anywhere as easy, though its getting a lot better.

For me the choice was easy - Gear is not a fashion statement, all of it works so just work out what your requirements really are. Crappy Bowens worked for me for years, I just got bored of lugging it. For me the priorities were:-

1 Recycle time to full charge
2 Weight of the unit.
3 Accessories
4 Repairs and spares support
5 Bang per buck costs.

if you're working to a budget don't forget cases and GOOD stands, you'll regret neither, so don't overstretch yourself on the sexy heads and skimp on the boring bits. Work out a balanced package that does what you need.

Lighting also ebays very easily so you get to correct mistakes easily and without taking a huge loss.

Thanxx a lot.

thanxx to all of you guys!

any good pro set will do fine . . the best would be the gear that you can get repaired AND find local accessories for . . personally I prefer speedotron. either umbrellas or soft boxes are fine . . even open strobes are fine

i'd agree with dean, here in l.a. profoto is all that's used. elinchrom is really good shit, but profoto seems to have more of a foothold on the market.

bump fpr more usefull inormation!

hey venus

nice job - i know from reading other threads youve posted in you just went to a lighting/photography course/class.

keep it up.