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Paul Markham 09-11-2006 02:01 AM

What should I charge for this scene? (VIDEO)
 
8 teen girl orgy. Video 28 minutes plus 1600x1200 stills around 120 or more.

Will stick up some images later. But for now sample the video.

So what should I charge for this scene on the content store, it will go up in a 3 months after the semi exclusive buyers have had it.

8 girl orgy sample.

Sebastian Sands 09-11-2006 02:04 AM

That's some hot stuff you got there.. if the price is right I buy it. And I RARELY buy content.:thumbsup

Sebastian

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands
That's some hot stuff you got there.. if the price is right I buy it. And I RARELY buy content.:thumbsup

Sebastian

I've set the semi exclusive price of 8 licenses for 3 months for $300.

It's what do I charge for it after the 3 months is up.

Go for a few sales at $100 or go for lots of sales at $50?

The real money will be in the images set for magazines. The Internet is just a nice earner on top.

Nydahl 09-11-2006 02:54 AM

Fuck me my holy mother - Paul you got some interesting toys there
The scene looks really good - will sell like hell.
Good stuff :thumbsup

clip4free 09-11-2006 03:05 AM

insane clip! very nice work!

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 03:17 AM

We are charging $70 for this scene of 8 swingers fucking, 4 on 4, and it has no set just some screen captures.

8 SWINGERS ORGY.

So I think $100 is a fair price for the lesbian scene.

salesman 09-11-2006 03:23 AM

you, the first ones are hot CZECH chicks, niceeeee

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl
Fuck me my holy mother - Paul you got some interesting toys there
The scene looks really good - will sell like hell.
Good stuff :thumbsup

Yes the girls like those machines and the members like to see them use them. :1orglaugh

Star 69 09-11-2006 04:51 AM

120$ for that scene!

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clip4free
insane clip! very nice work!

It was fun to shoot. The good thing was we told the girls to just fuck and not bother about the camera. Seemed to work fine.

Same technique my mate Johnny Rebel uses.

"You fuck and I film"

Scorse eat you heart out. :1orglaugh

Nydahl 09-11-2006 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Yes the girls like those machines and the members like to see them use them. :1orglaugh

you know I hate wasting of battery power

madawgz 09-11-2006 06:46 AM

i love the clip, thats awesome :thumbsup

llporter 09-11-2006 06:53 AM

same old boring stuff from eastern europe

Klen 09-11-2006 06:57 AM

Great videos,but i will not buy any content yet.

Pinklinkz 09-11-2006 06:58 AM

wtf ... where was the story line and plot
gah .. might as well put the popcorn away

vidvicious 09-11-2006 07:21 AM

Ièd say a scene like this would run roughly around 6000 $ .. But taking into consideration where you are ... The quality of the shoot .. quality of the girls, and the language itès in .. I d say a fair price for you to charge would be 4500 $ ... but you ll probably have it up for under 2000 $ Exclusive ... Non Exclusive for about $250

Sosa 09-11-2006 07:22 AM

not bad at all :) I'm sure the full version is great

Boobs 09-11-2006 08:13 AM

ehhh doesn't do it for me

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
you know I hate wasting of battery power

They are electric and the girls love them.

Tell the girls to turn them on, turn themselves on and just film it. :1orglaugh

Roald 09-11-2006 09:33 AM

what you should charge? Haven't you been a photographer for a 170 years now? Guess you should know what to ask but hey what do I know huh



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Paul Markham 09-11-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llporter
same old boring stuff from eastern europe

I know it's so tough trying to get girls to look excited.

http://smutdealer.com/images/smutdealer_01.jpghttp://www.smutdealer.com/images/smutdealer_02.jpghttp://www.smutdealer.com/images/smutdealer_03.jpg

But I do try.

martinsc 09-11-2006 09:40 AM

damn, that's hot :thumbsup

Donny 09-11-2006 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llporter
same old boring stuff from eastern europe

I agree. Did nothing for me. Not to take anything away from Paul because he's fantastic at what he does. I just get nothing out of Eastern European girls.

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidvicious
Ièd say a scene like this would run roughly around 6000 $ .. But taking into consideration where you are ... The quality of the shoot .. quality of the girls, and the language itès in .. I d say a fair price for you to charge would be 4500 $ ... but you ll probably have it up for under 2000 $ Exclusive ... Non Exclusive for about $250

I will sell the image set for well over $6,000. we shot it on film to make sure we maximise the earnings. :1orglaugh

Seriously without the magazine sales this is hardly worth doing, the girls cost $2,000.00 in models fees.

Paul Markham 09-11-2006 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
I agree. Did nothing for me. Not to take anything away from Paul because he's fantastic at what he does. I just get nothing out of Eastern European girls.

It's whether the surfers get anything out of them that makes the difference.

None of these girls are stunners for a reason. We wanted brand new girls who had done little or nothing and would do it for real rather than pose it. If we had gone for 8 stunners we would of been using more experienced girls and the results would not of been as good.

Most of these girls came up in the previous few weeks before we shot it and sorry to say no stunners in there.

What makes it different is there being 8 girls in a scene. Most talk about doing exclusive content then shoot exactly the same content as everyone else. We tried to shoot something a bit different.

Jace 09-11-2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
It's whether the surfers get anything out of them that makes the difference.

some surfer, somewhere, will always get something out of anything...the trick is shooting something that all surfers everywhere will get something out of

bknoob 09-11-2006 11:12 PM

I think I am having a biological reaction

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 09-11-2006 11:16 PM

Very Hot Paul. Looks fantastic.

emthree 09-11-2006 11:20 PM

Damn, that's a big ass cluster fuck.

Kimo 09-12-2006 12:00 AM

dude thats fucking awesome

grusthumbs 09-12-2006 02:11 AM

That is really hot stuff Paul :thumbsup

Paul Markham 09-12-2006 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
some surfer, somewhere, will always get something out of anything...the trick is shooting something that all surfers everywhere will get something out of

No such thing.

But I see what you mean, turning on all the guys who are into teens lesbians is the key.

The problem is to do this on a regular basis is tougher than you would think and cannot be done for the price most want to pay for content.

Back in the 80s and early 90s when I was shooting pretty much exclusive for magazines we shot one set a day, OK sometimes 2. We only shot the best girls, we shot it right, made it the best job we could. Because the market was different, we would sell a set for an average of $2,000.

Today good content shooters shoot a girl for an entire day, 10 scenes for $2,000. Guys who 2 years ago were no where near a camera or naked girl now call themselves pornographers. :1orglaugh

Some sites convert at 1-200 and others struggle to convert at 1-2,000. But traffic is king. :1orglaugh

Webby 09-12-2006 03:52 AM

You got to know better than anyone Paul :winkwink:

OK.. Total speculation and a guess - after you got your real money - $99 the set and just let it drift out over time. Again, you know what potential sales are over eg a year :)

BTW.. Nice stuff!!

reynold 09-12-2006 08:52 PM

Another great stuff there, man! :thumbsup

Swish 09-12-2006 09:10 PM

Good stuff :thumbsup

Roald 09-12-2006 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
blabla

Some sites convert at 1-200 and others struggle to convert at 1-2,000. But traffic is king. :1orglaugh

Lol yeah this paysite thing is easy :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 09-12-2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe
Lol yeah this paysite thing is easy :1orglaugh

Well can you tell me what is so tough?

The programming did take some skills, but you can buy that in.
The design is out of my head and designers to put it together are around.
Content can be bought, but I think knowing what to buy helps.
Traffic to make it profitable is easy, the review sites will list you if the site is good.
Affiliates will come the trick is to keep them, yes you have to tell them about it.
Converting is the key, we do well but can do better IMO. Never happy with that.

Trust me shooting good porn is harder and running a content store is harder.

If we spent $35,000 on launching the site we would of turned a profit in 6 months. Yes having $35,000 to hand is a problem, but being under funded in any business is a handicap.

OK having experience in the adult business and the Internet makes it easier. but again what business expects newbies to succeed?

rodney25 09-12-2006 10:34 PM

Well done content there, man. :)


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