I Just Don' Get It - Cheater Accusations
 

I saw Spacedog call someone a cp pusher and that has never been let down, and quickly brought up whenever someone feels the need to debate public slander or other accusations.

But when someone straight up slanders or speaks out on the wrongs of some in things I participate in, its not even addressed, ignored, and my guess being swept under the rug; I tend to get a little interested in whats fact and not.

I have checked <a href=http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64551>This Thread</a> the last couple morning, and the accusations are still there.

Is this true? Some of us still want to know.--


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""AMP, I have yours and his ICQ logs and can make you ALL look like idiots. Remember...the whole design contest? Wasn't it supposed to be a "new site" designed between "6/1 and 6/7?" Why did he show me the "winning site ( and I am using that term EXCEPTIONALLY LOOSELY)" on "Friday, April 12th 16:41:37 2002" and ask me to make a site that would look "as crazy as that" when you guys had me do one just like it? Inquiring minds want to know."

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""I can blow the doors off the whole GFY design contest if I wanted to...but I have more class than that. You, Lens and GFY/adult.com are free to live in a dillusionary world where you all think your shit and designers are the best. I have ICQ logs...and you clearly stated that the whole design contest was for your personal publicity. How's that publicity feeling right now?""
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Seriously. I aint trying to stir shit or start flames, if it happens so what, if you guys hate cheaters expose them all, dont pick and choose.

As a member of the board, if I am pushing sites for companies who may have cheated this way, damnit I wanna know.

I have my opinion. Whats yers?

Will someone please send this guy a TV.

Whats that for?

Still just gotta dodge it huh?

LOL

bahahah


Yeah but I'm with Fletch,AMP came in their all high and mighty so I know he had to have read zaney's reply...but no answer

He's leaving shortly for Maui. He's finishing up his last minute packing. Everything goes on the boat thursday. So, in other words, he's pretty busy.

Exactly.

Gary, its not about TV.

This is about glass houses. and I just want to know, because if its true, we all were made fools of. That I dont like.


:warning

And on another point, he just doesn't care. He tried the arguing, reasoning, explaining, rejudging, etc... and none of it worked. So, i'm pretty sure he's done with it. This whole contest WAS planned as a publicity stunt for all the designers. There were no prizes when it was suggested. But keep telling yourself you're the rightful winner and maybe Lens will send you a TV

But to answer your question a different way, and since this post is NOT ONLY about Amp, where is Snow?

If someone had claimed my site had been made a month before or anything, I would be there to defend it.

Again, im just curious, no one is saying ANYTHING, but when brought up, there are the few who come just for the flame, but thats it.

:winkwink:

I too think the accusations need to be explained. I don't have an axe to grind in the matter, but what is fair, should be fair.

Why do you continue to make this about the TV?

this has nothing to do with winning the contest, get that through your head.

Ive been trying to get hold of snow for 2 days, so i dont know where he is. LOL

But remember, there was a second judging, Amp didn't win and mafiaporn site wasn't entered. Different people had different INTERPRETATIONS of the initial rules, and the rules the second time around. Did Amp break the rules? Maybe, it depends on your interpretation. But, the contest, initially, was a publicity stunt and i don't think anyone felt Lawyers needed to be hired to write the rules.

I believe the spirit of the rules was that if you designed a great site 6 months ago that is converting great, dont just grab that and enter it. I dont know the time frame of when Amp began and ended the work on either of his sites, but he did show me incomplete works on the mafiaporn one AFTER the contest was suggested.

Isn't everything about a TV? I know in my house, every fight the kids have always boils down to the TV.

It has everything to do with the fucking TV. If there were no prizes then none of this shit would have gotten so out of hand in the first place. Lets not bullshit each other here. If it weren't for the prizes no one would have cared who won or who lost, who broke this rule or that rule. By the way how can you have rules when you are trying to make sites that convert the best. It is time for you all to build a bridge and get over it. Amp did this to try and get everyone some publicity. Any hidden talents out there some serious exposure. Now you all are turning on him. Nice bit of graditude there. The time has come for you guys to move on.

How many times must you here it?

This is NOT ABOUT THE FUCKING CONTEST.

I wont waste my breath, those that know, already know.

Thanks Gary.










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Even though Eric doesn't like me and sends me clothing many sizes too small, I agree.

LOL keep telling yourself that

Eric dont make me out to be against Amp in any way. I am NOT. I just thought maybe these things could be addressed.

So many have time to reply, but none have anything positive to say. Typical.

AMp's eyes only: I knew the circles would get smaller.

I also knew this would turn this way.

How come you guys dont say Tylo is the one complaining about the TV? Since those were his words, Im simply looking for explanation of them.

Tylo made these claims, and none of you attacked him, its obvious what you guys are really about.

Plain as day.

You figured us out. This whole thing, design contest and all, has been orchestrated for the sole purpose of attacking you.

You figured it out and have won the grand prize, A TV!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

thats not what meant but go ahead gary,you seem to get really into these threads.

hehehe I was only looking for an answer to those accusations against Snow mostly, but I figured ms Amp and the like would turn up to put me in line hahaha

Gary,

Surely Mister Fletch XXX has a right to question the fairness of a contest or clear up the accusations posted on the above mentioned thread?

Ahhh, so you figure Snow's mafia connections rigged the contest.

No genius, if you could read, you would know I was only looking for an addressing of the accusations.

You Gary turned this into a contest thread, no one else. This was solely about accusations.

Not even the Kennedy assasination has been questioned this much. The contest is over. There was 2 judgings. Amp did not win. A designer from adult.com won. Well deserved also, it was a kick ass site. There were like 12 judges, top names in the industry who really didnt give a shit about any of the designers. Whats the problem.

Yup, its all about me. ME! ME! ME!

Again, you keep making it out as If i am complaining about the contest, not at all.

In fact the work I have gotten since the contest, let alone the week of, has paid off mroe than that TV ever would.

I just wanted the accusations addressed, and felt as a member here it should be, I have waited days for a reply, yet none came.

:winkwink:

Great, than that part of the story can be considered closed.

Now, what is your opinion on the accusations posted on this thread?

jesus fucking christ.... I can't believe the stupidity of some people.

fine.... you want your fucking answers to the soap opera.... not like I owe you morons a single fucking thing, but here ya go.

Great work there Sherlock. OF COURSE it was a publicity stunt.... I've only said so right here on GFY numerous times Captain Obvious. What the fuck do you think I did that contest for? Kill a few weeks time for laughs?

get over that fucking contest already. Lens was not fully aware of the initial rules, he posted that there were 2 rules for the new judging and no other rules applied, and no one fucking cried until afterwards. It's fucking OVER... move on with your lives people. As far as why I was ALLOWED to submit a new site, I fuckin' posted that I was gonna, because all you goddamned crybabies were bitching about the Mafia logo, and NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF YOU said anything about me submitting a new site until NOW???... you can't have it both fuckin' ways people. Don't wait until after the fact to bitch about something. Not that ANY of that shit makes ANY fucking difference because there are NO winners or losers ANYWAY. The whiney bitches saw to that. No claims to fame... no prize disbursements. So for the love of god, just fucking let it go.

as far as the rest of that post, it was nothing but childish flaming and I don't have time to answer that shit.

Zayne was the guy who exposed all this... He would have NO reason to make shit up,Fletch wasn't even in the running for a god damn TV and im sure he will be the first to admit it... it's not about any contest,it's about every piece of crooked bullshit going down around here..ONE of them being this contest...somebody get ahold of Zayne and bring his ass in the thread... AMP posted 2 hours before Zayne making those accusations...are you telling me AMP NEVER read that? are you telling me snow didnt read that?... I'm not coming down on anybody,i think they are all great guys but i think people were screwed on this one....

Who was screwed? And what were they screwed out of?

ok not screwed,blinded into believing everything is everything when it actually wasnt.... am i saying AMPS designs werent the best? NO...am i saying he cheated? NO... buuut there is still more to this whole saga than most of us know...and zayne seems to have something...so lets hear it

Amp is the fucking man, and you guys just can't deal with it.

Jealousy & envy destroy all.

Fletch, sometimes its better to keep your nose out of business that doesn't concern you. And on that note, im outta this thread.

Well, here's a thought. Since there was no winner and no loosers and no prizes in the contest. The contest never really existed. Move on with your lives.

Amp, thanks for your reply.

I really hope you dont feel this was about the Tv or contest at all.

As the above said, I was not even in the recount and have never debated the results, for me to would be completely ignorant, since MOST of the sites in the contest were better than mine!

I never thought I would win against some of these guys.

My beef was simply with the accusations. They did not seem like flaming, they sounded like real deals gone bad, and no one addressed them.

I mean seriously this guy says he has ICQ logs of you and SNOW?

Man I just wanna know whats what, fuck the tv and anyone who thinks this is about the tv.

I saw some serious words being dropped, and my jaw hit the floor, I just wanted to know what the deal is in the end.

Flame me all you like.

So anytime 2 guys have a business disagreement, you have to have all the details? What are you? A tabloid?

They would have to pay me a TV in order to join a crooked ass contest like that again. At least then I'll know it's a Publicity stunt.

What did you think it was? All contests are publicity stunts. You think radio stations give away crappy shit to feel better about themselves?

Gary,do you know anymore about this than anybody else? I think you should just let the parties who actually know what they are talking about discuss it and us fools sit back and watch.... let me go find that thread and c/p Zayne's comments here....

Thanks for the headsup.

I actually didnt follow the contest much. Most of what i have said is common sense. Amp addressed Zayne but fletch wants every last detail of their beef. I guess your just as nosy?

Hey fletch let's let this die, I am trying to put together a new contest with adult.com running the whole thing, and me not being involved in the design part of it, we would supply the content, the domain names etc, with some really big prizes for the winners. Totally legit voting, and EVERYONE being on a fair playing field.

If amp wants to enter that's fine, but I doubt you'll be seeing him for awhile, fuck if I had a choice between looking at your sorry asses or sitting on a beach drinking Coronas looking at my hot girl in her bikini, I'd NEVER come back:)

I mean, if it wasnt for publicity, all the designers could have just gotten together in private and compared dick size.

Man, you guys love punishment. You know how many little bitches there are on this board who are never happy. why would you bother.

true.......true

nobody answerd this...I don't know where you're looking....


Zayne
"I have no idea why you're picking on me AMP...I have said not a single word about you good, bad or indifferent. I have been polite, courteous and helpful to you. The text on my site was directed at someone else, and you know it (but if the hat fits...wear it. And you're wearing it well). The work I did for Studio Adult was not work I did for you...I never spoke to you...barely knew of you...I dealt with the guy whom you broke off business relations with regarding that site...the same guy you spent 3 days flaming here at GFY last month. It wasn't until over a month and a half later that I even had my first contact with you. And "you owe your portfolio to the work I ASSIGNED you." LMAO Did you DO the work?!? You couldn't...that's why I did...and if you could it would convert like shit like SNOW's new mafiaporn site you did (more on that below).

If you feel I am talking shit about you, grow a pair of balls and talk to me directly...you have my ICQ number and have used it frequently. I am not intimidated by you and I am busy as hell and don't have time to make 10,000 posts and amass a groupie following. I will not bow to you...you are not my master...and I am not one of your lackeys who think you're some kind of Demi-God. You're a piece of shit, smack-talker in my book...and you have nothing to back it up once you peel off the attitude. Take away your keyboard and you're probably some cowering pussy. Judging by your pics you're probably about 5'5" and are trying to make up for it with a 7' attitude.

Be an asshole AMP...I couldn't care less. And next time you do a site for SNOW and it only converts one sale in 3 days (even though you somehow won a competition for best converting site with it here at GFY)...don't fucking run to me and ask what to do to mafiaporn.com to make it convert better...figure it out yourself. My wife was LIVID when I sat here for a half hour telling you all the shit to do to that site to help it convert better. And watch your fucking mouth...my ICQ logs are jammed with your words about SNOW and all your blame and bitching at SNOW for it not converting. Could it actually...even POSSIBLY be...that you have no fucking clue what it is about a tour that makes it convert?!?

Seems to me it is YOU that has a pretty shitty memory.

I understand you're intimidated by me, AMP...I also understand you're trying to discredit me. I can blow the doors off the whole GFY design contest if I wanted to...but I have more class than that. You, Lens and GFY/adult.com are free to live in a dillusionary world where you all think your shit and designers are the best. I have ICQ logs...and you clearly stated that the whole design contest was for your personal publicity. How's that publicity feeling right now?

Interesting how you and your partner employed me to do many of your sites for studioadult. Were you really THAT busy - or did you find a hungry designer who was willing to work for cheap at the time and could design better than you and make your clients think you guys knew how to design?!?

AMP, I have yours and his ICQ logs and can make you ALL look like idiots. Remember...the whole design contest? Wasn't it supposed to be a "new site" designed between "6/1 and 6/7?" Why did he show me the "winning site ( and I am using that term EXCEPTIONALLY LOOSELY)" on "Friday, April 12th 16:41:37 2002" and ask me to make a site that would look "as crazy as that" when you guys had me do one just like it? Inquiring minds want to know. But I am sure you'll run for cover behind Lens "changing the rules to only 2" so that he could make sure to keep his and your ego in tact. If you're allowed to submit a new site and he's allowed to submit one that was designed prior to mid-April, then why weren't the other designers allowed to touch up their shit when they were placed under a hard deadline?!?

And if I owe my portfolio to you...then you must also be the asshole I had to chase for a month-and-a-half to get paid after the work was done. Bounced e-checks...bounced paper checks...excuse after excuse...lie after lie. And I wouldn't work for you again anyway, AMP. You wanted me to do the 57 banners in question on this thread and I offered to do them for you @ $15/each...and some of them were damn near 1/4 page ads...but that was too expensive for your cheap ass?!?

Grow up AMP...get in touch with reality...have your groupie following here at GFY. You're nothing in my book...and blackbutter sucked worse than mafiaporn...I am amazed no one had the balls to tell you otherwise.

Now it's your turn...say, do, ICQ, flame, talk shit, get ahold of my clients and try to discredit me...I don't care. I have said my piece and I am sure you'll carry this on for days on end. I won't be a part of your personal publicity machine. You might think you can dazzle people with bullshit...my work speaks far louder than yours. Have fun with this...it's all you. Have Lens ban my IP so you can continue to clap with one hand...this is off my conscience and I could care less.

I am finished here at GFY...I have seen nothing but corruption, shitty attitudes and over-inflated egos with nothing to back them up. I will not be back to see anything you have to say...I don't care. You're a loser and a shitty designer. Have your fun with my post here. If anyone wants to see my ICQ logs, feel free to contact me because I won't respond to AMP (or anyone else's) childish flames here.

peace out."

Cause I think it was a great idea, A lot of people really impressed me, and we still have that tv in the back, if I would have actually got it I was gonna donate it to a rematch anyway, so why not?

When a person's integrity is questioned on ANY level, it is a good idea to make note of this for future business endeavors.

Isn't that what this message board is about?

indeed..

nocostporn, just because zayne posts pieces of my conversations with him does NOT mean I owe you a fucking explanation of MY business. Got it?

Uhhh, ya so, they have a business disagreement. Whats the issue. Amp addressed the stuff about the contest. Get over it.