Hmmm. 'Borrowed' Logo Drama? [pics]
 

Well here's one for you to think about -


http://www.ninjito.com/dump/hmmm.jpg

Apparently the designer for http://www.shedevildolls.com / BadGirlBucks [:eek7] was inspired down to the exact feather and skull shapes! Amazing.

Just in case anyone was interested-
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/hmm2.jpg - original paths and psds from my computer.

can you say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

hmmmmmmmm...

Hummmmmmmmmmmm wander where in the world they got an idea to use those feathers and skull together like that ????????????

OUR SITE perhaps?

no surprise there

im cracking up :) nice catch

hmmm i dont know ill have to think about that one!lol

what? are they supposed to look alike? if so they dont look anywhere alike two different shapes.

think they copied anything else??? i think ill go join thier site ;)))

Are you joking? The skull shape is identical. The feather form and tips are identical. The idea is identical.

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wow, thats serious proof

I think they are sufficiently different to be considered independent.....and it's not like the idea of feathers and skulls together is an amazingly unique one, I'm seen it several times before.....

In the real graphic design world (mainstream), that would be a definite no-no, and probably bring industry scorn upon the designer, if not a lawsuit.

Could the logos be from the same designer? (I don't know, that's why I ask)

People in adult seem to have a different attitude about ripping off things.

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Uhmmmm.... Not identical?...

definately "inspired" by the Liz Vicious design but I don't think it's a rip off

i understand, the concept behind are the same but identical? i dont see it.

Honestly as a designer myself if someone got inspired by my work and made a mock up version of something i made i take it as a compliment it means your work was good enough to inspire someone.

I love flying skulls.. with feathers, bat wings, top hats, lizard tails, horns, etc..

http://www.infectiousthreads.com/Ima...ying_skull.jpg

http://www.infectiousthreads.com/Ima..._hat_black.jpg

http://www.infectiousthreads.com/Ima..._lip_white.jpg

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, i have a sneaky suspicion :disgust

Phone Bill Gates and he will tell you that the Supreme Court ruled that you can't copyright or trademark a "look and feel" issue.

I can see the skull is the same ..but the the feathers look inspired by but not the same ... I have to say that a skull with wings behind it is not a new design ..i've seen hundreds of designs that are similar ... I can see how you would feel ripped but it's a grey line in my eyes (not the skull but the overall design .. the skull is dead on minus the horns)

Sorry I'm late, my drama pager just went off...

Something sure looks fishy here...

I agree that the is a serious ressemblance to your logo for Liz Vicious. I've got much love for jaymancash!! Hopefully they'll do the right thing and change it

I have no problems being 'sampled' - I have problems when elements are identical.

I'm not pretending a winged skull is original. What I'm saying is that when the skull is identical to the skull in my original, and the wings + wing tips are as well, that I've been fucked.

Be inspired all you like - take from my work.. fuck no..

yeah no shit, goto a biker rally and you will see angel wings and a skull on alota shirts, where the fuck is baddog im sure he could confirm :upsidedow

doesnt look borrowed to me , not the first skull logo

one question did you make the shape or get it from a website? such as adobe exchange.

Do a flying skull with some bat wings too.. those rock.

you did the design of Liz Vicious? you got skillz man.

well - no doubt they borrowed the concept - but is the skull and feathers a well known symbol in the world of alt/gothic design? i was going to use a heart with devil horns and a tail as a part of a logo - i thought i was being original - then somebody showed me the same symbol on another site - then i saw it a few more times around - i had probably seen the symbol around and didn't realize it.

You've been obviously inspired by my ORIGINAL logo

http://xmaster.fr/hmmm.gif

and yes i got the PSD ! :mad:

the skull is most def ripped
but other than that

someones just being anal

jayman needs to let you out more

only thing I see even remotely similar is the shape of the skull.. fuck the feathers,, completely different.. not even close,, the design of SheDevils is by far more superior & of much better & higher quality & apparently their designer is more skilled than the latter. :2 cents:

Friend of mine [dj monkey boy] released the upper skull portion exclusively for use in this logo...

Not beating you up dude, but honestly how many shapes do skulls really come in? I really can;t see the deal with the "feathers"... the second example actually looks more like flowers to me.

If I recall from my limited legal education 20% variance is the rule, right?

i like the she devil thingy better... :P and no it's not identical...

what he said..... looks more of a flower....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh definitely a rip-off :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Why not confront the "offender" directly and see what they spin about it. It is one hell of a lot more economical for both of you to work it out directly than to involve lawyers, etc. Maybe they will hire you to redesign their logo if you make a good case of infringement.

Sorry but this kind of thing happens all the time. 85% of designers in this industry suck.

Never meant for this to turn into a legal debate - simply something to make you go hmmm :) that's all.. perhaps I have been staring at the screen for too long ;)

obviously a rip off.. the skull is the EXACT same shape... (the bottom part is kinda of the smoking gun)... and the feathers tip and middle are alike... then you have the concept of the logo that is the same... guilty :)

looks quite similar if you ask me!!

Not sure if it's a rip off, but the aff site is a duplicate of Epic I think

Um..I think ALL skull shapes are identical. The "feathers" of the copycat look like leaves to me. They are big while the yours are very small. Oh and if you think you came up with the whole "feathers and skulls" thing you're crazy.

I don't know if it's a copy or not. It's kind of a common logo

oh is that right...? Funny how I havent found 1 skull identical to the ones above and certainly havent found one skull with the 3 angular bumps at the bottom of it...
http://images.google.com/images?q=sk... start=0&sa=N

Care to find one if they are all the same?

this is def a "close" case.. It seems hard to believe they weren't inspired by your design, but thats about as far as i would go. I think this is one of those " be flattered" cases. where its close enough to look the same but not close enough they are trying to confuse people..

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM That is interesting.

Quit your fucking bitching.. you know goddamned very well that YOU "Borrowed" from somebody else, now that you feel that a much better designer has "borrowed" from you, you turn into a hypocrite.

Now, I am not suggesting you borrowed any element of your actual work, however, the idea & concept are very far from novel or innovative, not even remotely original,,

http://www.funtoos.com/d/afull/flying_skull_tattoos.jpg

as long as there's a difference its a not a rip off...

The 3 bumps are pretty common ...it's just a toothless top jaw ..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...ull-tattoo.png

http://www.tattoobulls.de/pics/skizzen/skull.jpg

http://www.mindseyetattooinc.com/GstefanSkull.jpg