My take on this sonofsam thing.....
 

First off....See sig.

Moving along.....

Several people have tried to help SOS in one way or another over the last year or so. Most of those people were treated like shit, called thieves and scammers, and generally disrespected overall by SOS.

Yes, he is young....But that is no excuse for the SameOldShit day in and day out. We, as a society, are supposed to learn from our mistakes and try to better ourselves by analysing what we did wrong and trying to avoid doing it again in the future. Anybody who is too dumb to comprehend this does not deserve to share the same air as those of us who do.

Fuck SOS.

End Game.

wow... sig spot

yep see sig.

I would agree that everyone makes mistakes, and as long as it isnt REALLY bad, then second chances are to be given. I thought you were more that willing to work things out with him. My take on it at least.

I wont miss him.

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are we all still going on about this shit?

the dude failed miserably, it happens every day in this biz...granted, it doesn't usually happen with such amazing fireworks, but it does constantly happen

let's just move on and forget that little dweeb

It's not an easy way to make a living.
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Dude....baddog's thread went up a say or so ago.....I have not had the chance to read it all yet....

I'm behind the ball on this one and I intend to make up for lost time. :gluglug

haha, yeah, i guess it hasn't been that long...I guess I am just referring to everything since the beginning of his blazing trail of failure

i wish kak_azn was back, then SOS and kak_azn could start a program and buy motorcycles and ferraris together

nice sig.

SOS has certainly seemed to have flamed out, but I feel he was helped along the way. No need to be so smug here Aaron, had you refunded him, perhaps he would have been able to follow a different path. You certainly could have afforded it, I would venture to guess.

With that said, I think many people do not realize the cost of producing their own content, nor know how to succesfully market a site/program, let alone have the business acumen to be profitable in this highly competitive business. Given what has transpired, I'm not altogether certain that SOS would have been able to make it had his circumstances been different.

As I understand it, you went through a bancruptcy yourself Aaron. If so, kudos to you for pulling through. You have a great gift with your talent as a photographer. However, you belittle yourself when you gloat about the failures and shortcomings of others, given your own experience and struggles.

I might expect you to trot out the same tired "troll" name calling etc, but maybe you will surprise me this time and rise above it and realize that I am not posting this with any malice towards you, simply some observations which might benefit if you choose to be open-minded.

My :2 cents:

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I still think you were an ass - but supporting SOS dosnt seem to have been one of my better judgement calls

See sig - donate for Fidel :thumbsup

Really?

That's quite interesting.

I must have slept through that one because I don't seem to recall ever dealing with any bankruptcy.

Where do you people come up with this shit?

Of course I was an ass. I fight fire with fire. This time I tossed some gasoline on it.

Dont push it - that shade of smug dosnt suite you.

My apology in that case. I'm pretty sure Donny went through such an experience, and for some reason I thought I read in a thread somewhere that you went through the same or a similar hardship (something about a trailer, but maybe that was just an inside joke).

My point was, that I think it is safe to say that nearly all of us who were not raised with a silver spoon have been through various adversities, and therefore we should not feel as if we need to celebrate in the sufferings of others.

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I wonder what his next 'nick' will be.

Damn! Looks like I've missed some real drama. What's this shit all about? What did he do? Can anyone provide some links to corresponding threads?

can anyone fill me in on the drama plz?

SOS screwed up, thats blatantly obvious, but Aaron wasn't necessarily the most honest or humble person in their dealings.

Honestly, I think I feel pity for both SOS and Aaron

i'll miss his cartoons.

If you make a mistake in this game there are people who will never let you forget it.

One of them is me. :1orglaugh

I'm now getting my own medicine thrown back at me.

Sources tell me it is acne

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

My sources tell me otherwise. :glugglug

I told him... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh my bad.

thanks for the few mins in FL.

so was that a yes on the lapdance or no?

Yep, I did indeed. Wasn't such a bad thing, either. It was a nice way to start over.

And who are you?

Ah yes...Nobody.



damian2001

I'll be as smug as I want. Who in the hell do you think you are to try to influence anything about me? What makes you think your input has any value to me?

I can't help but notice that the people who are hating on baddog and the people who are still hating on me are primarily the same people who never have anything good to say about either of us.

When those who I respect and who's opinions I value contact me and tell me these things, then I MIGHT listen to what they have to say. Until then, I'm sticking with my current attitude. If you don't like it, then piss off. :321GFY

What I dont get... these days you have to pay , say 1500 (depending on your situation, but thats average) bucks to file bankruptcy....

Man, Funk Dat!@

:thumbsup

Thankfully your take was a lot more brief than mine....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=646007

(in case you missed it)

ICQ please

Age isn't an excuse when running a business. Beeing young and making mistakes = making mistakes period.

I've made some (because I was young and learning), but from all that I've learned one thing : Assume your mistakes and take the responsability. Don't blame others when something go wrong even if it's their fault. Move on and work hard.

I would be pretty surprised if Acne was SoS. One thing about SoS, right or wrong, he didn't care what people thought of him and had no problem saying what he thought.

On a personal level I like the guy, I think he's funny and I get along with him fine. On a business level he has a lot to learn, has made some mistakes, and probably needs some humility.

And I agree with what others are saying, age is no excuse. Age is an excuse for making mistakes, it isn't an excuse for not righting those mistakes. We all fuck up, all of us. Then we learn, correct, and don't do it again.

Well I think he has learned all about that in last few days.

so who bought his domain name and how did it end up for sale?
i missed something

SOS wanted to buy a motorcycle

SOS borrowed money from a GFY'er and put his domains up as collateral

SOS paid off the initial debt, but couldn't cover the vig

SOS had his domains sold by the debtor to cover what was owed

when I say domains I mean all his domains, including his affiliate program and paysites

If you can't afford it don't buy it ... just having it don't make you a baller ..:2 cents:

first of all... the money went to surgery and kevin knows that...

and second of all... i dont know about half of you geeks... but i dont buy something to look cool... i bought a bike because i wanted a bike and i enjoy riding.

I guess I don't understand why you kept saying you were putting the money in escrow when you did not have it, yet you kept blaming the bank.

What kind of bike and affiliate program was that???

Hmm....That sounds very similar to something I recently read....

Where was that?



Oh yeah.....My post which started this thread. :winkwink:

Because he's a liar. Always has been but people are just now starting to see the big picture with him.

who the fuck would loan someone that much money just from knowing them off GFY? fuck.