If you believe in the big bang theory...
 

you're a jackass, just like the assholes who believe in a god as the source of existence.

lol, it's just a theory man. no one knows how the universe really was created...

True knowledge is realizing that you know nothing...

Nick did we meet when I was in a drunken state out by the pool as Lit played, or did I dream that? :winkwink:

a lot of people whole heartedly believe in theories, particularly on this board. from drama to the universe. it's sad.

I was at a pool?

can you define nothing for me ? I know what day it is , does this exclude me from true knowledge ? :(

Hmm maybe I dreamed it. :Oh crap :1orglaugh

How do you know what day it is? What day was it when they created the calendar?:winkwink:

:thumbsup

hehe, there really is no such thing as time as we understand it...

I thought AlienQ invented the universe?

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."

--Albert Einstein

The only thing I'm certain of in life is my shit stinks fairly bad.

Do you have a better theory in mind than those 2?

...and where people are from.

I'm a jackass for believing observable scientific data that points to the big bang theory being the method of creation for this universe?

You do understand that a unified theory (unites the theory of general relativity and quantum mechanics in explaining the creation of the universe) will most likely prove more dimensions and universes. Which in the other thread you were extremely adamant about there being something grander than what we see. Guess what. Proving string theory will also prove exactly what you already believe in.

See the good thing about science, and this may be something you fail to understand, is that it can be wrong. Science can be rewritten. But you're a fool if you think we should all just give up searching for the answer and believe we're in some matrix. The equations, observations, and research done by some of the greatest minds ever point towards the big bang being the method of creation for our universe. If you want me to bust out the scientific data I have no problem doing so. I mean you do believe in the laws of physics right?

To think that you can understand how this reality was created is insane. We can't get the damn planets in our solar system right, how the hell can scientists think they know how the universe started.

We don't even truly know where life on earth came from.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
watch it

two words.. .


HUMAN ARROGANCY

pornwolf sums it up nicely.


also, i never said stop searching. but for us humans, we've been on the earth for like what, a mere fraction of the time we believe the universe was created... and now all the sudden we're going to believe we actually have a fucking clue? :1orglaugh

No, you are a jackass for thinking you will get any intelligent discourse on this subject on GFY. =]

I'm curious to see what Galleryseek proposes is the best theory for the formation of the Universe? Is he thinking "branes" smacking together? A holographic implicit to explicit kind of thing or what? Or maybe he is just saying it's stupid to waste time thinking about it? To that I say it's no more stupid than any single other thing we humans do. What else is there to do but what interests you?

I believe in me. As long as keep up with that, I'm good to go and I don't get let down, lied to, or forced into anything I don't want to do.

Okay but how do we prove you exist?

the laws of physics are constant. they have been the same since the big bang across the entire universe. only now has mankind evolved to the point where it can understand these laws and apply them to understanding how the universe works.

over 450 years ago when Gallileo discovered the Earth revolved around the Sun, even hundreds of years later it still wasn't widely accepted. And i believe the church only recently apologized for condeming Gallileo to hell. anyway, the point im trying to make is that the Earth always revolved around the sun (since the forming of our solar system). it took billions of years of evolution for our species to come to that provable conclusion. you say we've been around a mere fraction of the time since the universe was created. you're wrong, we've been evolving since the creation of the universe. and we're now at that point where we can examine the universe and understand the laws that govern it.

you said, "we think we have a fucking clue." well, until the Rapture occurs or Morpheus shows up offering me the red pill, I'm going to believe what the genius of mankind has established so far. and i still think you're missing the point that science can be wrong. it's about finding and proving truth.

this isn't some bullshit idea someone pulled out of a hat. as i said years of research, observation, and math has gone into it by some of mankinds greatest minds.

keep an open mind, but keep searching for truth? well no shit. what the fuck do you think science is.

big bang, is that a website?

You're all jackasses for putting so much effort into this rather than something a little less pointless. :upsidedow

:) yep :pimp

I don't see how it is any bigger leap of faith than believing a man in a sky that apparently didn't exist yet (the sky that is) clicked his fingers and it was made

Read about a myth on GILGAMESH..........

A clever person on GFY. Now I've seen it all.

So you sound like you believe it's NOT true. So what's your answer Einstien?

Gerald Schroeder is a scientist that doesn't believe it. Mind you, he's also religious. But religion aside, his non-religious argument is compelling.

http://www.geraldschroeder.com/evolution.html

I'm sure we'll continue our search for the answers; it's in our nature.

Technically there wouldn't be a before, because time didn't exist. So therefore nothing could have existed before there was a before.

String theroy? So 90's, it's bubble theory now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_universe_theory

Do you have a better theory?

That eternal search for truth sounds nice, but in practice scientists tend to construct the truth more often than revealing it.. we attempt to grasp reality by attempting to make it understandable through cognitive concepts, which we in turn relate to 'truth', but it's a form of truth that's not synonymous with reality.. the truth of reality in fact endlessly outruns us, and that's coming from a scientist :winkwink:

Well, everything that has/will happen/ed is already "done" -- our "perception" is just playing it out like a movie.

You were already born, have already died, and are already dust.

Our "consciousness" is just "catching up." Food for thought.

The true universe is within yourself.

"Where did I come from, Daddy?"

http://www.brmovie.com/Images/Charac...tty_tattoo.jpg

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