Residuals / Royalties to sologirl models?
 

I've been thinking of different ideas that might make finding good solosite models easier. Has anyone ever tried offering an agreement with a model where they receive royalties for the life of their website, even if they quit/retire?

I think models would jump at an opportunity to make money beyond their "prime modeling years".

How about giving her a salary/commission for shooting new content and interacting with the site, then paying a royalty as long as the site is online? Maybe put some of that money into an escrow account that she can collect by coming back and shooting updates?

Then when a girl quits her site, you can tell the members, "She is currently taking a personal hiatus from shooting content for this site, but every membership and renewal automatically adds funds to an "incentive account" for her to return as soon as possible."

How much money would it really take to eventually get a model to come back to shoot updates?

Great idea.

We are currently in discussions with one of our solo girls, and lawyer, about doing a lifetime profit share for her site when it is launched.

It makes them more invloved in the site and its like their own little business.

That sound like a good incentive for a model. I say it's a good idea. Of course, I don't run any pay site of any kind so my opinion does not matter very much.

Royalties are common in most other entertainment mediums, should the web be different?

Good idea assuming the model has a head on her shoulders and can think past how much money she need next month for her shopping spree.

This question has bothered me for some time. The best way to get girls, keep them shooting, and keep them happy, and still make money for myself.

The biggest problem I find is that when a girl quits her site, 90% of the time she wants her photos off of the internet and her site shut down. For this reason it's best to just pay them for the shoots and send them on their way, but this isn't good if you want her to be an active part of the site (diaries, chats, emails, etc.)

Getting them to interact with the site is easy at first, but as time goes on, they get less and less interested in it.

Let me know when you find the solution :winkwink:

Great idea.Any girl with any financial smarts would probably jump at the idea.Gives them an option to maybe try other things with the security of knowing she could come back to the site

long term thinking in solo girl pays off. look at raven. they're doing the work, if you make it worthwhile to them they'll want to do more and keep the site hot. they're business people too in some instances. not all of them have iq's of 5. some of these girls are smarter than lots of people in the space give them.

I think a percentage of the profit for up to 60 days after they quit/retire, but not for the life of the site. Give them an incentive to come back.

I always thought if I started a solo girl site that there would have to be some sort of incentive to keep the girl active in the site. IMO web cam shows are a must to keep members coming back and re-billing.

I think the rash of solo girl sites that just shoot a bunch of content and then kick the girl to the curb have really hurt the solo girl market. I know if I was a surfer and signed up to a site that the girl wasn't active on, well I'd never rebill that's for sure.

Personally I've always thought it would be a good idea to set up some sort of profit sharing with the girl. That way she isn't just used up and tossed out. Personally I don't see anything wrong with giving the girl a salary plus a percentage of the profits.

Just like any employee you need to give them a reason to want to do their job.. I know models especially young ones don't have very much biz sense but with the right girl it could work out great.

I think that is a great idea Steve, you would think with some incentives they would want to put in a little more effort, but unfortunatly it is not always the case :(

You mean to tell me you guys aren't operating like this already?

Jeezus.

That just reminds me how young this industry is.

money/incentives we have found isn't what motivates alot of girls - i'd love it if it was because as people who know me know - i am not greedy - i am willing to pay a girl her worth for her involvement. The best model is one who likes the attention a solo girl site brings and also who needs/desires money - second best is one who just needs the money - you are in trouble when you get one who doesn't really want the attention and money isn't a big factor for her. there are so many factors at play - there is no magic - you are dealing with 18 year olds - their priorities are way different. The older a girl gets the better but unfortunately everybody wants the teenies.

Very rare to find a girl who has it all.

I like it .. I've offered models a small % as long as I'm still using the content when they are a % and per shoot deal. it's a small % but it's something and makes them feel like even after they stop shooting if I make money they will. of course they get a little less now but in the long run it pays off. i like the idea of holding it for shoots ..

This assumes models can do math.

Tsk, tsk Steve.

On my first two solo sites, I paid the models whenever I shot them so that I would own the rights to the photos, and I paid them a residual for as long as they were active with the site (this was their incentive to stay active). It worked pretty well for both the models and myself.

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if the roi works why not, i cant understand how it can

long term thinking is not part of most young peoples thinking process.

its about NOW and how much money they can make - plain and simple.

good idea. Done that before with girls who modeled for print ads and their ads pulled well so they'd come back to shoot again.

I've done that with girls that I have shot for stock images. Why not, it builds an ongoing working relationship and incentive.

That's an interesting idea Steve! :thumbsup

As long as she keeps the site updated and current on a weekly basis, she gets her share. If there are any weeks that she fails to fulfill an update, then 5% of those weeks go into an escrow to be paid to her in one lump sum at the end of the year for as long as the site stays online.

It'd be nice for models if they got royalties; I've always thought so. Not many people want to pay them though.

as a coder who get royalties from code i have written in the past. Most residual contracts create an insentive for you to jump ship not the reverse. Think about if develop something for company a and they are good at marketing it, i can step away go work develop a non-competing code base for someone else and make more money. Plus i am not putting all my eggs into on basket (if the original company goes out of business or trys to screw me on royalties i have other revenue streams to live off or better yet to pay for the lawyers to sue their ass).

By jumping ship the model is putting her royalties in jeopardy.:2 cents:

but then it wouldn't be a royalty for the life of the site

"then paying a royalty as long as the site is online? "

it would be a profit sharing for exclusivity which exists already and is really nothing new or innovative.

I was surprised to hear this too. I assumed you guys already were doing this.