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jennym 08-11-2006 07:30 PM

Math Help!!!
 
Ok, helping my kid with Honors Algebra 2. I must be fucking brain dead or something because a word problem is driving me nuts!! I can figure out the answer, but not the equation.

In an evening, a sporting goods store sold twice as many T-shirts as shorts. T-shirts are $9 each and shorts are $14 each. The total amount of money taken in for both items was $256. Find the number of each that was sold.

God I feel like an idiot. Never been stumped by a damn word problem before. Any help is mucho appreciated. :Oh crap

Ice 08-11-2006 07:33 PM

16 shirts and 8 shorts

Vasago Reno 08-11-2006 07:34 PM

When in doubt - drop back 10 yards - PUNT!

jennym 08-11-2006 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice
16 shirts and 8 shorts

I already know the answer. She has to have the algebraic equation. Thanks though.

aico 08-11-2006 07:36 PM

(2 * 9y) + 14x = 256

?

madleinx 08-11-2006 07:37 PM

9x +14y = 256
2x=y

Solve together....



Oh yeah, hi GFY :2 cents:

jennym 08-11-2006 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
(2 * 9y) + 14x = 256

?

This was the first thing I came up with, but doesn't seem right. I couldn't come up with a way to work it.

fr0gman 08-11-2006 07:44 PM

9x+14y=256

9 x 16= 144
14 x 8= 112

112+114=256

fr0gman 08-11-2006 07:45 PM

Wow that'll take you back 20 years.

jennym 08-11-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
Wow that'll take you back 20 years.

Yep...it definitely did that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr0gman
9x+14y=256

9 x 16= 144
14 x 8= 112

112+114=256

I know that much. Have to show how I came up with the 16 and the 8:winkwink:

llew 08-11-2006 07:50 PM

assume # of T-shirts sold as T and # of shorts sold as S

T=2S
9T+14S=256
plug in T=2S

9(2S)+14S=256
18S+14S=256
32S=256
S=8
T=2S=16

jennym 08-11-2006 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llew
assume # of T-shirts sold as T and # of shorts sold as S

T=2S
9T+14S=256
plug in T=2S

9(2S)+14S=256
18S+14S=256
32S=256
S=8
T=2S=16

I also came up with this. I was just wondering if I was missing something. Seems like there should be a single equation way to do it????

polle54 08-11-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
I also came up with this. I was just wondering if I was missing something. Seems like there should be a single equation way to do it????


no this is the way to solve an eqaution with two unknown

fr0gman 08-11-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llew
assume # of T-shirts sold as T and # of shorts sold as S

T=2S
9T+14S=256
plug in T=2S

9(2S)+14S=256
18S+14S=256
32S=256
S=8
T=2S=16


I was never very good at "showing my work". I do those steps unconsciously. It drove my teachers mad.

Why show your work if you can do it in your head?

jennym 08-11-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54
no this is the way to solve an eqaution with two unknown

Ok...been a LONG time for me so I will take your word on this one.

Thanks for the help everyone.:thumbsup

marketsmart 08-11-2006 08:03 PM

you should do a search online for tutors... they have some that will help your child online.. not only will they help them figure it out, but they will show them how to come up with the answer...

"lead a child to water, but dont drink for them"....

evulvmedia 08-11-2006 08:05 PM

OK, here's how you do it:

Look at the problem. You know that the shop sold T-Shirts and Shorts. You get that just by looking at the words.

But you don't know how many were sold. So they are variables. Call them T (for the number of T-Shirts sold) and S (for the number of shorts sold).

T-Shirts cost $9 so the total money taken in from T-Shirt sales is $9 x T.

Shorts cost $14 so the total amount of money taken in from Shorts sales is $14 x S.

The total money taken in was $256, and this has to equal the total taken in T-Shirts plus the total taken in Shorts, so we have:

($9 x T) + ($14 x S) = $256

Now this has two unknowns so we can't solve it just yet. Instead, we need to look at the word problem for additional information... And there it is: That the store sold twice as many T-Shirts as Shorts. In equations, this is:

T = 2 x S

Now there are two equations in two unknowns, so you just solve. You can plug the value for T from the second equation into the spot where T is in the first:

($9 x 2 x S) + ($14 x S) = $256

simplify:

($9 x 2 + $14) x S = $256

S = $256 / ($9 x 2 + $14)

= $256 / ($18 + $14)

= $256 / $32

= 8

So the number of shorts sold was 8.

Now we can use the second equation to get the value for T.

T = 2 x S

= 2 x 8

= 16

So the number of T-shirts sold was 16.

Alex 08-11-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
Ok, helping my kid with Honors Algebra 2. I must be fucking brain dead or something because a word problem is driving me nuts!! I can figure out the answer, but not the equation.

In an evening, a sporting goods store sold twice as many T-shirts as shorts. T-shirts are $9 each and shorts are $14 each. The total amount of money taken in for both items was $256. Find the number of each that was sold.

God I feel like an idiot. Never been stumped by a damn word problem before. Any help is mucho appreciated. :Oh crap

Let x = amount of shirts
Let y = amount of shorts

2y =x

9x+14y = 256

9(2y)+14y=256
18y+14y=256
32y= 256
y=8
therfore x = 16

There you go.

jennym 08-11-2006 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart
you should do a search online for tutors... they have some that will help your child online.. not only will they help them figure it out, but they will show them how to come up with the answer...

"lead a child to water, but dont drink for them"....

She is in 10th grade...mostly honors classes...volleyball, basketball, track, and softball teams...NEVER made a B in her life. We were just stumped with this problem for some reason. Thank you though.:winkwink:

jennym 08-11-2006 08:09 PM

Thank you evulvmedia and Alex. That is kinda what I thought, but since it's been so long, wasn't sure if I was missing a way to do it with a single equation.

Thanks again.

jennym 08-11-2006 08:12 PM

I actually enjoyed trying to figure it out. She hasn't needed help in a loooong time. Only her 2nd day in Algebra 2 so she doesn't have it all the way down yet. I helped with most, but that one made my brain hurt.:)

marketsmart 08-11-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
She is in 10th grade...mostly honors classes...volleyball, basketball, track, and softball teams...NEVER made a B in her life. We were just stumped with this problem for some reason. Thank you though.:winkwink:

i wasnt trying to belittle your kid or your parenting skills... i was simple saying that there are online sources that might be more useful and have more benefit for your child than just getting the answer on a forum...

jennym 08-11-2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart
i wasnt trying to belittle your kid or your parenting skills... i was simple saying that there are online sources that might be more useful and have more benefit for your child than just getting the answer on a forum...

That's cool...I'm just saying with straight A's all her life, she doesn't really need tutoring. Just had an issue with 1 problem on the 2nd day of class. Getting this 1 answer on a forum isn't gonna ruin her education. It taught us (reminded me) how to work similar problems in the future.

jennym 08-11-2006 08:25 PM

marketsmart - I will say that I agree with you 10000% though...I know what you mean. I don't DO the work for my kids. I help them to understand better, but they have to know what they are doing. It will do them NO good if I just do everything for them. Trust me though, she does most things on her own, and works her ass off for her grades.:thumbsup

Alex 08-11-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
Thank you evulvmedia and Alex. That is kinda what I thought, but since it's been so long, wasn't sure if I was missing a way to do it with a single equation.

Thanks again.

I just got out of high school years back.
So its still fresh.

Trust me at 40+ (or however young you are now :winkwink: ) you tend not to care about this shit and therefore you forget.

jennym 08-11-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
I just got out of high school years back.
So its still fresh.

Exactly why I came here...plenty of youngin's:winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Trust me at 40+ (or however young you are now :winkwink: ) you tend not to care about this shit and therefore you forget.

The thing is, I had NO problem coming up with the answer. Damn teachers and the whole "show your work" thing killed me. Couldn't remember to save my life...lol.

madleinx 08-11-2006 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym
since it's been so long, wasn't sure if I was missing a way to do it with a single equation.

Thanks again.

Nope, 2 variables = 2 equations
3 variables = 3 equations, etc.

Next time can we only go back 10 years instead? :winkwink:

jennym 08-11-2006 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justmarie
Next time can we only go back 10 years instead? :winkwink:

works for me:thumbsup


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