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Brujah 08-11-2006 05:49 AM

11 General Rules re: Israel/Lebanon conflict
 
Here are 11 general rules for anybody of the Israel/Lebanon conflict to keep in mind while they watch the news:

1) In the Middle East, it's always the Arabs that are the bad guys and attack first, while Israel always defends.

2) Arab Palestinians and Lebanese don't have the right to kill civilians, that's terrorism. Only white nations (U.S., U.K. and Israel) kill for good of the world.

3) When Israel kills civilians, the western powers ask them to be constrain themselves. This is what we call a 'Reaction from the International Community'.

4) The Palestinians and Lebanese don't have any right to capture any soldiers from Israel, even if the amount doesn't surpass 3. This is kidnapping helpless people.

5) The Israelis can capture as many civilians where they want and when they want. Even if the current amount is 10,000 (from that 300 are children and 1,000 are women), it doesn't matter. They don't need evidence. All the evidence they need is by calling them a terrorist. And before I forget, they can keep them prisoner for as long they want.

6) When you speak of Hezbollah you must somehow put "supported and financed by Syria and Iran" somewhere in the same sentence.

7) When you mention Israel, you mustn't say, "supported and financed by the U.S." because that could give the impression that the conflict isn't fair and that Israel isn't in grave danger.

8) Never talk about 'occupied territory' or UN resolutions. Don't forget, never mention of human rights or international violations, or the Geneva convention either. This might upset the Israelis and the Western world, especially those who watch FOX, CBS, CNN, and BBC etc etc.

9) The Palestinians, as well as the Lebanese, are all a bunch of cowards. They are so much that they hide amongst the civil population that doesn't want them there. They sleep with their wives and families, in their houses. This is true coward ness and sheer evil. Israel has every right to destroy all the neighborhoods where they live. This shall be referred to as a 'deeply heroic surgical strike'.

10) The Israelis speak better English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese etc than the Arabs. That's why themselves and those who support them are interviewed more and have more opportunities than the Arabs to explain and talk about the rules I just mentioned above. This is what we call journalistic neutrality.

11) Here's the most important rule: Anybody who disagrees with the rules mentioned is automatically an anti-Semitic terrorist who is highly dangerous.

ronad10 08-11-2006 07:48 AM

You forgot to mention that when something happens:
USA Controls Everything

ServerGenius 08-11-2006 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Here are 11 general rules for anybody of the Israel/Lebanon conflict to keep in mind while they watch the news:

1) In the Middle East, it's always the Arabs that are the bad guys and attack first, while Israel always defends.

2) Arab Palestinians and Lebanese don't have the right to kill civilians, that's terrorism. Only white nations (U.S., U.K. and Israel) kill for good of the world.

3) When Israel kills civilians, the western powers ask them to be constrain themselves. This is what we call a 'Reaction from the International Community'.

4) The Palestinians and Lebanese don't have any right to capture any soldiers from Israel, even if the amount doesn't surpass 3. This is kidnapping helpless people.

5) The Israelis can capture as many civilians where they want and when they want. Even if the current amount is 10,000 (from that 300 are children and 1,000 are women), it doesn't matter. They don't need evidence. All the evidence they need is by calling them a terrorist. And before I forget, they can keep them prisoner for as long they want.

6) When you speak of Hezbollah you must somehow put "supported and financed by Syria and Iran" somewhere in the same sentence.

7) When you mention Israel, you mustn't say, "supported and financed by the U.S." because that could give the impression that the conflict isn't fair and that Israel isn't in grave danger.

8) Never talk about 'occupied territory' or UN resolutions. Don't forget, never mention of human rights or international violations, or the Geneva convention either. This might upset the Israelis and the Western world, especially those who watch FOX, CBS, CNN, and BBC etc etc.

9) The Palestinians, as well as the Lebanese, are all a bunch of cowards. They are so much that they hide amongst the civil population that doesn't want them there. They sleep with their wives and families, in their houses. This is true coward ness and sheer evil. Israel has every right to destroy all the neighborhoods where they live. This shall be referred to as a 'deeply heroic surgical strike'.

10) The Israelis speak better English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese etc than the Arabs. That's why themselves and those who support them are interviewed more and have more opportunities than the Arabs to explain and talk about the rules I just mentioned above. This is what we call journalistic neutrality.

11) Here's the most important rule: Anybody who disagrees with the rules mentioned is automatically an anti-Semitic terrorist who is highly dangerous.


Very sad but VERY TRUE!

TinyTim 08-11-2006 09:39 AM

you really think so?

KingK7 08-11-2006 09:42 AM

Israel/Lebanon is SO 3 weeks ago...

NoComments 08-11-2006 09:49 AM

Brujah,
I am sorry your dear to your heart hezbollah is getting annahilated.
I am sorry your beloved moslem freedom fighters were got caught before they blew the planes.

I wish they take you the hostage next time and behead you for Al Jazeera, I'll watch and applaud their efforts.

Brujah 08-11-2006 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
Brujah,
I am sorry your dear to your heart hezbollah is getting annahilated.
I am sorry your beloved moslem freedom fighters were got caught before they blew the planes.

I wish they take you the hostage next time and behead you for Al Jazeera, I'll watch and applaud their efforts.

I reposted these, but see? You prove #11 right. It only took 5 posts in the thread, before someone tries to stifle any discussion and label me a anti-semitic terrorist.

Quote:

11) Here's the most important rule: Anybody who disagrees with the rules mentioned is automatically an anti-Semitic terrorist who is highly dangerous.

NoComments 08-11-2006 10:23 AM

Brujah,
your argument may play well with few GFYers, but was completely lost on me.
I didn't call you anti-semite,
just a terrorist sympatizer.

But look at the bright side, if you lived in USA in the 40's and labeled nazi sympatizer, you wouldn't be able to express your views in public.
"You've come along way, baby".

c'mon, don't be afraid, let your feelings known:
you support terrorists and wish them kick the free world's ass.

Brujah 08-11-2006 10:38 AM

Why would I support terrorists? Of course I don't, and I'm sure you know that. I do encourage discussion on the points made above, and look forward to reading any more accurate explanations if they're given. I like the discussions and enjoy reading points made by intelligent posters, and there are at least a handful of them here. That includes about half of your posts too, when you're not just attacking. I prefer not to just pick a side blindly, and rant like a bloodthirsty idiot; "Kill them all!"

WWC-Pajio 08-11-2006 10:40 AM

...that's true!

NoComments 08-11-2006 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Why would I support terrorists?

you have the podium and we patiently await your answer.

Brujah 08-11-2006 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
you have the podium and we patiently await your answer.

If you can't read beyond one sentence, how can we have an interesting discussion? The next part continued ... "Of course I don't, and I'm sure you know that." There were a few more after that too.

NoComments 08-11-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
If you can't read beyond one sentence, how can we have an interesting discussion? The next part continued ... "Of course I don't, and I'm sure you know that." There were a few more after that too.

your asumption was incorrect,
I have no idea why you support terrorists.

Webby 08-11-2006 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Here are 11 general rules for anybody of the Israel/Lebanon conflict to keep in mind while they watch the news:

Very accurate assessment Brujah :thumbsup


Meanwhile:

Quote:

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has ordered the army to prepare to expand its ground offensive in Lebanon, Israeli officials have said.
... while the US is the only major stumbling block to have a ceasefire and have been "talking" about it for over a week with John Bolton (and now Rice joining in) at the UN playing the part of "quibblers" and avoiding agreement. Both need to be sent to Lebanon to experience the effects of Israeli shells - supplied by the US.

Brujah 08-11-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
your asumption was incorrect,
I have no idea why you support terrorists.

I have no idea why you support terrorists. Why do you?

northboy 08-11-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
I have no idea why you support terrorists. Why do you?

you better stick to your al jazeera buddy. You speak to your friends who are in jail over that whole terrorist plot to blow up the airplanes? That was biased news too, they also had a 'cause'.

NoComments 08-11-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
I have no idea why you support terrorists. Why do you?


I support United States of America,
the country which leveled German cities to win the war, so you, Brujah could spew your pro terrorist propaganda.

northboy 08-11-2006 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
I support United States of America,
the country which leveled German cities to win the war, so you, Brujah could spew your pro terrorist propaganda.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Brujah 08-11-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
I support United States of America,
the country which leveled German cities to win the war, so you, Brujah could spew your pro terrorist propaganda.

Thank you. Most men for several generations in my family have served in the US military too, including myself, so that we have the freedoms to be able ask questions and hold conversations.

It's just too bad that you don't really want to talk about it, and instead just want to deflect and hide it. You're pretty smart and probably could have at least easily dismissed one of the 11 comments in the first post.

NoComments 08-11-2006 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

It's just too bad that you don't really want to talk about it, and instead just want to deflect and hide it. You're pretty smart and probably could have at least easily dismissed one of the 11 comments in the first post.

I didn't do this on purpose,
I don't want you to win the CD player for the longest thread of the week.

NoComments 08-11-2006 11:44 AM

Brujah,
if you are in the mood for finger masturbation,
which part of the speech by Omert you disagree and why?

Speech of Ehud Olmert, Prime Minister of the State of Israel, published in
Maariv on Monday, July 31, 2006.


Ladies and gentlemen, leaders of the world, I, the Prime Minister of Israel,
am speaking to you from Jerusalem in the face of the terrible pictures from
Kfar Kana. Any human heart, wherever it is, must sicken and recoil at the
sight of such pictures. There are no words of comfort that can mitigate the
enormity of this tragedy. Still, I am looking you straight in the eye and
telling you that the State of Israel will continue its military campaign in
Lebanon.





The Israel Defense Forces will continue to attack targets from which
missiles and Katyusha rockets are fired at hospitals, old age homes and
kindergartens in Israel. I have instructed the security forces and the IDF
to continue to hunt for the Katyusha stockpiles and launch sites from which
these savages are bombarding the State of Israel. We will not hesitate, we
will not apologize and we will not back off. If they continue to launch
missiles into Israel from Kfar Kana, we will continue to bomb Kfar Kana.
Today, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow. Here, there and everywhere.



The children of Kfar Kana could now be sleeping peacefully in their homes,
unmolested, had the agents of the devil not taken over their land and turned
the lives of our children into hell. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time you
understood: the Jewish state will no longer be trampled upon. We will no
longer allow anyone to exploit population centers in order to bomb our
citizens. No one will be able to hide anymore behind women and children in
order to kill our women and children. This anarchy is over. You can
condemn us, you can boycott us, you can stop visiting us and, if necessary,
we will stop visiting you.


Today I am serving as the voice of six million bombarded Israeli citizens
who serve as the voice of six million murdered Jews who were melted down to
dust and ashes by savages in Europe. In both cases, those responsible for
these evil acts were, and are, barbarians devoid of all humanity, who set
themselves one simple goal: to wipe the Jewish people off the face of the
earth, as Adolph Hitler said, or to wipe the State of Israel off the map, as
Mahmoud Ahmedinjad proclaims.





And you - just as you did not take those words seriously then, you are
ignoring them again now. And that, ladies and gentlemen, leaders of the
world, will not happen again. Never again will we wait for bombs that never
came to hit the gas chambers. Never again will we wait for salvation that
never arrives. Now we have our own air force. The Jewish people are now
capable of standing up to those who seek their destruction - those people
will no longer be able to hide behind women and children. They will no
longer be able to evade their responsibility. Every place from which a
Katyusha is f ired into the State of Israel will be a legitimate target for
us to attack. This must be stated clearly and publicly, once and for all.
You are welcome to judge us, to ostracize us, to boycott us and to vilify
us. But to kill us? Absolutely not.





Four months ago I was elected by hundreds of thousands of citizens to the
office of Prime Minister of the government of Israel, on the basis of my
plan for unilaterally withdrawing from 90 percent of the areas of Judea and
Samaria, the birth place and cradle of the Jewish people; to end most of the
occupation and to enable the Palestinian people to turn over a new leaf and
to calm things down until conditions are ripe for attaining a permanent
settlement between us. The Prime Minister who preceded me, Ariel Sharon,
made a full withdrawal from the Gaza Strip back to the international border,
and gave the Palestinians there a chance to build a new reality for
themselves. The Prime Minister who preceded him, Ehud Barak, ended the
lengthy Israeli presence in Lebanon and pulled the IDF back to the
international border, leaving the land of the cedars to flourish, develop
and establish its democracy and its economy.





What did the State of Israel get in exchange for all of this? Did we win
even one minute of quiet? Was our hand, outstretched in peace, met with a
handshake of encouragement? Ehud Barak's peace initiative at Camp David let
loose on us a wave of suicide bombers who smashed and blew to pieces over
1,000 citizens, men, women and children. I don't remember you being so
enraged then. Maybe that happened because we did not allow TV close-ups of
the dismembered body parts of the Israeli youngsters at the Dolphinarium?
Or of the shattered lives of the people butchered while celebrating the
Passover seder at the Park Hotel in Netanya?





What can you do - that's the way we are. We don't wave body parts at the
camera. We grieve quietly. We do not dance on the roofs at the sight of
the bodies of our enemy's children - we express genuine sorrow and regret.
That is the monstrous behavior of our enemies. Now they have risen up
against us. Tomorrow they will rise up against you. You are already
familiar with the murderous taste of this terror. And you will taste more.





And Ariel Sharon's withdrawal from Gaza -- what did it get us? A barrage
of Kassem missiles fired at peaceful settlements and the kidnapping of
soldiers. Then too, I don't recall you reacting with such alarm. And for
six years, the withdrawal from Lebanon has drawn the vituperation and crimes
of a dangerous, extremist Iranian agent, who took over an entire country in
the name of religious fanaticism, and is trying to take Israel hostage on
his way to Jerusalem - and from there to Paris and London. An enormous
t errorist infrastructure has been established by Iran on our border,
threatening our citizens, growing stronger before our very eyes, awaiting
the moment when the land of the Ayatollahs becomes a nuclear power in order
to bring us to our knees. And make no mistake - we won't go down alone.
You, the leaders of the free and enlightened world, will go down along with
us.





So today, here and now, I am putting an end to this parade of hypocrisy. I
don't recall such a wave of reaction in the face of the 100 citizens killed
every single day in Iraq. Sunnis kill Shiites who kill Sunnis, and all of
them kill Americans - and the world remains silent. And I am hard pressed
to recall a similar reaction when the Russians destroyed entire villages and
burned down large cities in order to repress the revolt in Chechnya. And
when NATO bombed Kosovo for almost three months and crushed the civilian
population - then you also kept silent.





What is it about us, the Jews, the minority, the persecuted, that arouses
this cosmic sense of justice in you? What do we have that all the others
don't? In a loud clear voice, looking you straight in the eye, I stand
before you openly and I will not apologize. I will not capitulate. I will
not whine. This is a battle for our freedom. For our humanity. For the
right to lead normal lives within our recognized, legitimate borders. It is
also your battle.





I pray and I believe that now you will understand that. Because if you
don't, you may regret it later, when it's too late.

Brujah 08-11-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk
Brujah,
if you are in the mood for finger masturbation,
which part of the speech by Omert you disagree and why?

It's pretty long. I don't want to just throw a quick response to it out of respect. I have to run in a bit, so I'll read it and respond later this evening. I hope you'll do the same.

NoComments 08-11-2006 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
It's pretty long. I don't want to just throw a quick response to it out of respect. I have to run in a bit, so I'll read it and respond later this evening. I hope you'll do the same.


no can do,
we have mayor with wife for Japanese dinner tonight.

But...we'll have the whole weekend for this afterwards.

Paul 08-11-2006 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Here are 11 general rules for anybody of the Israel/Lebanon conflict to keep in mind while they watch the news:

1) In the Middle East, it's always the Arabs that are the bad guys and attack first, while Israel always defends.

2) Arab Palestinians and Lebanese don't have the right to kill civilians, that's terrorism. Only white nations (U.S., U.K. and Israel) kill for good of the world.

3) When Israel kills civilians, the western powers ask them to be constrain themselves. This is what we call a 'Reaction from the International Community'.

4) The Palestinians and Lebanese don't have any right to capture any soldiers from Israel, even if the amount doesn't surpass 3. This is kidnapping helpless people.

5) The Israelis can capture as many civilians where they want and when they want. Even if the current amount is 10,000 (from that 300 are children and 1,000 are women), it doesn't matter. They don't need evidence. All the evidence they need is by calling them a terrorist. And before I forget, they can keep them prisoner for as long they want.

6) When you speak of Hezbollah you must somehow put "supported and financed by Syria and Iran" somewhere in the same sentence.

7) When you mention Israel, you mustn't say, "supported and financed by the U.S." because that could give the impression that the conflict isn't fair and that Israel isn't in grave danger.

8) Never talk about 'occupied territory' or UN resolutions. Don't forget, never mention of human rights or international violations, or the Geneva convention either. This might upset the Israelis and the Western world, especially those who watch FOX, CBS, CNN, and BBC etc etc.

9) The Palestinians, as well as the Lebanese, are all a bunch of cowards. They are so much that they hide amongst the civil population that doesn't want them there. They sleep with their wives and families, in their houses. This is true coward ness and sheer evil. Israel has every right to destroy all the neighborhoods where they live. This shall be referred to as a 'deeply heroic surgical strike'.

10) The Israelis speak better English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese etc than the Arabs. That's why themselves and those who support them are interviewed more and have more opportunities than the Arabs to explain and talk about the rules I just mentioned above. This is what we call journalistic neutrality.

11) Here's the most important rule: Anybody who disagrees with the rules mentioned is automatically an anti-Semitic terrorist who is highly dangerous.

Sir you are an incredibly well educated individual ! :thumbsup For speaking the TRUTH and having the balls to state it !

Paul 08-11-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coatsy
Sir you are an incredibly well educated individual ! :thumbsup For speaking the TRUTH and having the balls to state it !

For the record I have always supported Israel and their actions that they take (they are of coarse an allie of the UK) but I cannot stand being lied to or having my opinions continually swayed by an incredibly bias media telling only 1 side of the story

*Sadly I know I will be labeled #11

Paul 08-11-2006 03:31 PM

Btw my solution for the conflict in Lebanon is simple, I'd flatten Lebanon if I was the Israelis. I'm in full support of that

Growing up myself in an area of conflict I know too well what the Israeli people have had to go through (I can relate to both sides) and I support your cause completely. My solution is harsh but in the end of the day it is a permanent solution to the problem, anything less than this and the problem will never go away

DOX 08-11-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Here are 11 general rules for anybody of the Israel/Lebanon conflict to keep in mind while they watch the news:

1) In the Middle East, it's always the Arabs that are the bad guys and attack first, while Israel always defends.

2) Arab Palestinians and Lebanese don't have the right to kill civilians, that's terrorism. Only white nations (U.S., U.K. and Israel) kill for good of the world.

3) When Israel kills civilians, the western powers ask them to be constrain themselves. This is what we call a 'Reaction from the International Community'.

4) The Palestinians and Lebanese don't have any right to capture any soldiers from Israel, even if the amount doesn't surpass 3. This is kidnapping helpless people.

5) The Israelis can capture as many civilians where they want and when they want. Even if the current amount is 10,000 (from that 300 are children and 1,000 are women), it doesn't matter. They don't need evidence. All the evidence they need is by calling them a terrorist. And before I forget, they can keep them prisoner for as long they want.

6) When you speak of Hezbollah you must somehow put "supported and financed by Syria and Iran" somewhere in the same sentence.

7) When you mention Israel, you mustn't say, "supported and financed by the U.S." because that could give the impression that the conflict isn't fair and that Israel isn't in grave danger.

8) Never talk about 'occupied territory' or UN resolutions. Don't forget, never mention of human rights or international violations, or the Geneva convention either. This might upset the Israelis and the Western world, especially those who watch FOX, CBS, CNN, and BBC etc etc.

9) The Palestinians, as well as the Lebanese, are all a bunch of cowards. They are so much that they hide amongst the civil population that doesn't want them there. They sleep with their wives and families, in their houses. This is true coward ness and sheer evil. Israel has every right to destroy all the neighborhoods where they live. This shall be referred to as a 'deeply heroic surgical strike'.

10) The Israelis speak better English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese etc than the Arabs. That's why themselves and those who support them are interviewed more and have more opportunities than the Arabs to explain and talk about the rules I just mentioned above. This is what we call journalistic neutrality.

11) Here's the most important rule: Anybody who disagrees with the rules mentioned is automatically an anti-Semitic terrorist who is highly dangerous.


all 11 "Rules" anti israeli. At least be objective/impartial. how smart u are, You should write a book :)

let me replay to just one of your stupid rules: Israelis are not white, they are the same like arabs. You don't know history and giving to other ppl wrong info. Go to school and stop your propaganda.

Alex 08-11-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
I reposted these, but see? You prove #11 right. It only took 5 posts in the thread, before someone tries to stifle any discussion and label me a anti-semitic terrorist.

Crack Cocaine much?

He didnt call you and anti-semite.


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