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Tdog 08-08-2006 09:58 AM

Bill O'reily 9/11 myths
 
Can anyone help me out with this?

Yesterday on Bill 0'reily show (FoxNews) some guy from popular mechanics was on talking about 9/11 myths.
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/index.html

This guy from popular mechanics said Flight 77, that hit the pentagon became liquid.

This is what I need help with.

How can a plane become liquid, disappear into the pentagon, but then Investigators can identified 184 bodies from flight 77. If a plane hits so hard that it becomes liquid, then nothing is left. Especially not flesh and bones. Do laws of physics, or common sense not apply here?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true
"Investigators have identified remains of 184 people who were aboard American Airlines Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but they say it is impossible to match what is left with the five missing people."




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MattO 08-08-2006 10:04 AM

This is the actual quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University
What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass

He is saying it behaved like a liquid, to give people an idea of how it crumpled into the Pentagon, not that it turned into an actual liquid.

Dollarmansteve 08-08-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
This is the actual quote:



He is saying it behaved like a liquid, to give people an idea of how it crumpled into the Pentagon, not that it turned into an actual liquid.

also, people arent made of aluminum....

yet...

:winkwink: lol

Phoenix 08-08-2006 10:12 AM

why not just admit it was a cruise missile converted to look like a plane

OTerror 08-08-2006 10:12 AM

Bill is an idiot.

tiger 08-08-2006 10:24 AM

Bill O'reily still has a job?

godisdead 08-08-2006 10:32 AM

Of course everyone knows that this was a UFO and Elvis was in the cockpit. :thumbsup

SirMoby 08-08-2006 10:44 AM

While I believe there's a lot of covering up on things that happened on that day I also believe that a cruise missile would have been spotted by a lot of people. The day it happened I heard and felt the explosion from my home not far away. A plane close to the ground would have mixed in with the flights going into National but a missile would have stood out.

Read the advertisements on Bill's site and look at the headlines. It's pretty similar to what you would expect from a tabloid site.

Most Americans know he'll spin any issue and you can always find someone to agree with your point. Those that don't know that will blindly believe every thing that he says.

ADL Colin 08-08-2006 10:57 AM

If a cruise missile hit the Pentagon what happened to all those missing people on flight 77? Their families all report them as missing.

There's a conspiracy theory for the 2 planes that hit the tower (explosives)
There's a conspiracy theory for the plane that hit the Pentagon (cruise missile)
There's a conspiracy theory for the plane that went down in Pennsylvania (shot down)

Yeah, ok. It just couldn't be Muslim terrorists who had prior knowledge of the events (Osama video tape)

BV 08-08-2006 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby
While I believe there's a lot of covering up on things that happened on that day I also believe that a cruise missile would have been spotted by a lot of people. The day it happened I heard and felt the explosion from my home not far away. A plane close to the ground would have mixed in with the flights going into National but a missile would have stood out.

Read the advertisements on Bill's site and look at the headlines. It's pretty similar to what you would expect from a tabloid site.

Most Americans know he'll spin any issue and you can always find someone to agree with your point. Those that don't know that will blindly believe every thing that he says.

If it was a missile people near the Pentagon more than likely would not have heard anything before the impact. Most missiles travel way faster than the speed of sound. If one flew right over your head you would not here it until it was out of sight again.

Dirty Dane 08-08-2006 11:26 AM

it was the aliens

MattO 08-08-2006 12:14 PM

If the government wanted us to think that a jetliner hit the Pentagon, they fly a fucking jetliner into the Pentagon not risk the possability of thousands of witnesses seeing a fucking missile.

wonton 08-08-2006 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
If the government wanted us to think that a jetliner hit the Pentagon, they fly a fucking jetliner into the Pentagon not risk the possability of thousands of witnesses seeing a fucking missile.

I agree, and I am one of the "Conspiracy Factualists". Over a hundred eye witnesses saw a passenger plane hit the pentagon. I think internet films like Loose Change, while they generally do a great service in raising questions, also do a lot of harm to the 911 Truth Movement by insisting that there was no plane. In a few years, when the pentagon finally releases full video showing the plane hit the pentagon, the mainstream press will have a field day saying "See! We told you all those conspiracy theories were crap!". That's what they are gearing up for.

There is a ton of evidence suggesting government complicity in 911 that eschews pseudo-scientific theories about collapsing towers, cruise missisles and other such things.

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Dood 08-08-2006 12:55 PM

Ask Glenn Beck, he apparently has everything figured out.

Scootermuze 08-08-2006 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
This is the actual quote:



He is saying it behaved like a liquid, to give people an idea of how it crumpled into the Pentagon, not that it turned into an actual liquid.

So he thinks that 2, 6 ton engines, made from numerous titanium parts, can act like liquid and follow a 135+ ft. wingspan plane into a 16 foot hole...

Further.. the engines on that plane are designed to break away on impact, should there be one...

Try slamming a 6 ton object into a bldg. at 500 mph. and see if it could opt to follow anything anywhere other than straight through the wall..

Simple laws if inertia debunk any liquid theories...

CheeseFrog 08-08-2006 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
So he thinks that 2, 6 ton engines, made from numerous titanium parts, can act like liquid and follow a 135+ ft. wingspan plane into a 16 foot hole...

Further.. the engines on that plane are designed to break away on impact, should there be one...

Try slamming a 6 ton object into a bldg. at 500 mph. and see if it could opt to follow anything anywhere other than straight through the wall..

Simple laws if inertia debunk any liquid theories...

Yeah, you'd think there would be engines laying on the ground because they didn't make it in the main hole. But all the "you'd think" in the world doesn't prove jack shit. The proof is in the evidence. Pretty hard to beat that.

pocketkangaroo 08-08-2006 01:55 PM

Those saying it was a cruise missle, have you seen the video of a PLANE flying into the WTC? Or did the government doctor all the live video footage too?

jigg 08-08-2006 03:00 PM

bill o'lieily douche bag extroadinare

Quagmire 08-08-2006 03:08 PM

Bill O'rly caused 9/11. He's pure evil. When satan takes a shit, little Bill O'Reillys come out

ColourMeHuman 08-08-2006 03:10 PM

We can't prove what hit the pentagon...more importantly what we can prove is that 911 was inside job and there are over 200 smoking guns to prove it here: http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

Scootermuze 08-08-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Those saying it was a cruise missle, have you seen the video of a PLANE flying into the WTC? Or did the government doctor all the live video footage too?

The PLANE flying into the wtc has nothing to do with this thread...
There were tons of videos of the planes hitting the wtc... thousands of witnesses.. yada yada..

Why no clear videos of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Why the confiscated videos? Why all of the varying, supposed eye witness accounts... A few said they heard a missle, some said a small jet.. and other various accounts... If a 757 flew in as low as it would have to fly (An impossibility with an amateur pilot) there would be witnesses out the ass seeing it..

BusterBunny 08-08-2006 03:29 PM

cockpit footage proving this theory................

http://www.loresdelsith.net/3po/rep/bin/t1000.jpg

now lay off bill:winkwink:

lazycash 08-08-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godisdead
Of course everyone knows that this was a UFO and Elvis was in the cockpit. :thumbsup

Sh sh, phoenix might hear you.

Tdog 08-08-2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
If a 757 flew in as low as it would have to fly (An impossibility with an amateur pilot) there would be witnesses out the ass seeing it..

The way the light poles got clipped the plane would have been flying 500mph 3 feet off the ground for over a mile.

Scootermuze 08-08-2006 03:44 PM

This is also interesting about Popular Mechanics..

A brutal purge of the senior staff at Popular Mechanics preceded the publication of last month's scandalous propaganda piece about 9/11. Pulling the strings is the grand dame of Hearst Magazines and behind the scene is her obscure husband a veteran propaganda expert and former special assistant to the director of the C.I.A.

Benjamin Chertoff, the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9/11 article, Its March cover story, Debunking 9/11 Lies, is related to Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method, used by dictatorships, is now being employed by the U.S. government: controlling mainstream media outlets to promote its version of 9/11.

PM has long been a supporter of the U.S. military. The magazine ran a full page ad in support of the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in May 2003. Since the purge last September, however, PM readers have noticed that government propaganda has replaced scientific writing. A letter to the editor in the current issue says, I think you guys are just another tool in the governments propaganda machine.

MyspacePimp 08-08-2006 03:46 PM

Dont know if you you fellas heared about the 11 Egyptian exchange students who came to new york and just vanished** Good way to make the feds go crazy

Scootermuze 08-08-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyspacePimp
Dont know if you you fellas heared about the 11 Egyptian exchange students who came to new york and just vanished** Good way to make the feds go crazy

Or.. the feds made em vanish...


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