Is Osama bin Laden really winning a war?
 

I'm not going to claim to be a know it all on all the events surrounding 9/11 and the conspiracy theories etc. Seems to me though that I remember a speech that was aired in the western media where a big part of Osama's problem was that the infidels weren't paying enough for the precious oil of Islamic/Arab countries. He felt that the fair price would be over $100 a barrel.

It seems that goal is becoming reality. As far as the agendas of the oil companies and other countries including the US, got me on which theory is correct?

With all the resources of the US, it doesn't seem to plausible that he wasn't caught by the Bush administration by now if they really wanted him. Maybe some of their goals are the same?? OR maybe Osama on the loose serves some purpose?

Yes, governments love to keep that fear mongering machine going.

I believe they will get him before the elections and will be interesting to see how it plays out. For all we know they might allready have him.

osama will always be winning while bush is in office and hes still alive

Oil and gas is the place to be with your money right now.

he is a pussy and always will be

Osama .. Who ?????


You mean Saddam, the terrorist .... nah .....

Fighting the urge for profit taking.

The war on oil. Never, dubya would never lose. Osama is a complete failure who needs his SAG card renewed.

It took two years to get Zarqawi with a presence of 150,000 US soldiers, knowledge of what country he was in with certainty and many more potential informants.

That being said I am pretty impressed with Osama. He's a real-life Lex Luthor.

If the Osama shit was played out in front of a jury in a courtroom and Pandoras box was opened to display all "associations" between the CIA, the US Admin, Saudi, US arms suppliers and "contractors" working for the US govt - together with bin Laden and friends of bin Laden - who knows, but sure smells of a very unhealthy relationship between them all.

One day there may be more transparency :)

Sure pussyluver - of course they would have "found" Osama if they wanted. By the law of averages and considering numerous intelligence services "supposed" to be hunting him - it's getting incredible he has never been found.

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yeh i think thats pretty mad that they havent found him, what with all the spy technology now days

I think the Saudies could serve him up on a silver plate at about any time they choose.

Seems very ironic that our government is so close to the Saudi governement. I think most people over there would sooner kill us for the most part from what I can tell from media reports.

Who will be our Superman? Bush?

Sure.. doubt he's that much of a secret - especially to the family who "disowned" him. OK.. it may be understandable to a degree - but WTF was with the Saudi Royal Family and entourage leaving the US after 9/11 and when all flights were restricted? All bollocks.. it's another "friends of friends" scenario.

You seriously think the Saudis would prefer to kill ya?? :winkwink: Na :) You might by *very* suprised - they are generally OK people and very hospitable despite the bullshit that is spread about them and they sure don't mean any harm. Used to know a Saudi princess who wanted to open up sex stores in Saudi, - but it was considered by others as "inappropriate" - just their culture stuff :winkwink: She was an OK girl and very generous to everyone. Media reports are absolute shit man - to an unbelievable level.

You are assuming that all of that would be allowed into court. Many times things that seem perfectly logical to include in a trial are excluded, not even allowed to be entered into the trial.

Big difference in knowing the royalty as compared to the average Joe Camel. Understand they are taught in school to hate Americans? You saying that isn't true?

You think looking for a 6 foot 7" in Arab hooked-up to a dialysis machine in the desert would be an easy thing to do.

He gave it all up.
Hes
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Who's living in a cave eating bugs and who is having a vacation at an exclusive ranch in luxury and fine dining?

Nuff said.

I've said all along Bin Laudin is using the USA to get what he wants. Its working for him right now.

What do we know?

Na.. I can't exactly say I mix with "royality" PL :1orglaugh - know far more (hell, not that many) "ordinary" Saudis than the elite - tho the elite are ten a penny there.

Man.. you will find some obscure, and not so obscure, extremist bullshit in every society. I've never ever met *anyone*, whether from Saudi or elsewhere who was ever taught anything about hating "Americans" or anyone else - if they did, they'd prob be laughed at. Overall they basically have more relevant shit to do and the introduction of the use of the word "hate" is not even on their agenda. They are not one bit different to you or I - it's the same the world over :)

If anything, and it's only my :2 cents: - there is far more preoccupation with other people, and an element of what could be regarded as "hate", coming from the Americas, than that other way around. Europe and most of the rest of the world don't give a shit. Who knows - I sure don't and given up - it may have to do with what is fed in media or wherever.

What you may find on odd rare occasions is a smile or eyeroll at the absurdity of some shit that goes on in the American continent, but that's kinda universal and not a hate thing. (Kinda like your Joe Camel reference - that would raise a smile cos it's far from an overall picture.)

Bottom line PL - can tell ya 100% man that if people actually read what was being said/claimed about them on places like GFY - they'd be utterly stunned, shocked and most likely offended. I can think of a good number of very open, good-meaning, hospitable and generous people who would be wondering what planet they were just dumped on if they saw the "views" expressed about em on GFY. There is a massive communication void someplace - smell it's media content related :)



PS Re references to others being stunned and shocked - that's not just in Saudi, but think other folks would be amazed of the "image" they have - it's far from accurate.

I'd take a bet from ya Alien that nobody is living in a cave eating bugs :winkwink:

Yer prolly right.

The dude is dead somewhere in an unmarked grave.

I hope so. What we need to have now is the confirmation..

Coming soon to a 2k8 election near you :thumbsup