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elron 08-06-2006 06:38 AM

Why Do europians tend to preach US and israel how to do their wars ?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Exactly. Allows the Muslims to get a few more little pretty ineffectual rockets. While the Israelis have one of the biggest arsenals in the world and one of the most technically advanced. So what's the point of a ceasefire?

Allows the innocent people caught in the middle to get out of harms way, something neither side wants.

This war is all about killing innocent people on both sides and a cease fire would screw that up.

Is czech republic part of nato pact ? not sure about that , in either case im sure you pacifist guy Mr markham begged for a cease fire when nato killed over 10,000 serb civillians in kosovo bombards few years ago , and that was without a single missle from serbia falling in their lands . Where was your civillian care back then ?
I wont continue further more so you wont have to find out what is my opinion about hypocrites .

s9ann0 08-06-2006 07:52 AM

yea but then most Israelis are europeans right they just decided it was a good idea to go and live in with a load of arabs!

could have told them it'd all go tits up!

elron 08-06-2006 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spanno
yea but then most Israelis are europeans right they just decided it was a good idea to go and live in with a load of arabs!

could have told them it'd all go tits up!

Most israelis were born in israel . Where do you guys bring your facts from , you really amuse me .

s9ann0 08-06-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Most israelis were born in israel . Where do you guys bring your facts from , you really amuse me .

oh I dunno about that but most of them were from europe same with the yamericans!

DutchTeenCash 08-06-2006 08:03 AM

explain what kosovo has to do with this pls cause Im lost

elron 08-06-2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by spanno
oh I dunno about that but most of them were from europe same with the yamericans!

yeah and most of the yankees in the us are ex irish or german , so ?

DutchTeenCash 08-06-2006 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spanno
oh I dunno about that but most of them were from europe same with the yamericans!

EVERY american has european ancestors, europeans went everywhere from the states to australia to whatever shitty island.

I dont think if youre and your family was born and raised for 3 generations in the US you can consider yself european anymore.

Lazonby 08-06-2006 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Is czech republic part of nato pact ? not sure about that , in either case im sure you pacifist guy Mr markham begged for a cease fire when nato killed over 10,000 serb civillians in kosovo bombards few years ago , and that was without a single missle from serbia falling in their lands . Where was your civillian care back then ?
I wont continue further more so you wont have to find out what is my opinion about hypocrites .

It's because our European Socialist Elites are oh so superior you know than the inbred hillbillies or those filthy Jew scum. Or so they think.

:1orglaugh

Europe is vying for power in the world and they don't care how much of it they fuck up in the process. We have socialism here, so we all have to take a bite of the shit sandwich.

elron 08-06-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
explain what kosovo has to do with this pls cause Im lost

read my thread 2 more times , im sure something will pop up .

evanmorgan 08-06-2006 08:11 AM

You lost my interest after you spelt europeans wrong....

seven 08-06-2006 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Most israelis were born in israel . Where do you guys bring your facts from , you really amuse me .

ah! I hate posting in a thread opened by a drunken fool again but did you never hear about your jewish papas importing illegal jew immigrants from all over europe to strenthen themselves so they could kick out the arabs from their own homes? :Oh crap

elron 08-06-2006 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
It's because our European Socialist Elites are oh so superior you know than the inbred hillbillies or those filthy Jew scum. Or so they think.

:1orglaugh

Europe is vying for power in the world and they don't care how much of it they fuck up in the process. We have socialism here, so we all have to take a bite of the shit sandwich.

Na i dont think you can treat whole europe as one cake , what you said is mostly true about the british who still think they rule the world somehow .

seven 08-06-2006 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Na i dont think you can treat whole europe as one cake , what you said is mostly true about the british who still think they rule the world somehow .

Shit! You are even disagreeing with your jew borther? Man! Time to get off the rockers before you get an alcohol poisoning :1orglaugh

elron 08-06-2006 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
You lost my interest after you spelt europeans wrong....

yeah and you should have replied with "you HAVE lost my...." .

grammar lesson is over , retard :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

evanmorgan 08-06-2006 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
yeah and you should have replied with "you HAVE lost my...." .

grammar lesson is over , retard :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nope

You HAVE lost my interest after you spelt europeans wrong

makes less sense than my sentence...

Where are you from? Im from England...We invented it smartass...

DutchTeenCash 08-06-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
read my thread 2 more times , im sure something will pop up .

in other words : you are clueless and just like to include every single historical war that had civilians in it

elron 08-06-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
importing illegal jew immigrants from all over europe

we got your point , you wish hitler would finish the job and blah blah blah , there are some more creative nazis here in this board than you , go practice some more , cuz you sound like ab old broken gramophone :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

seven 08-06-2006 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
yeah and you should have replied with "you HAVE lost my...." .

grammar lesson is over , retard :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

his grammar is right mr. drunk you should be the last one to try to educate anyone about grammar lol. he's using a past tense nothing's wrong with that.. you gotta adnit you lost it dude again dang! sorry! you have got to admit drunk dude that you had lost it :upsidedow

DutchTeenCash 08-06-2006 08:28 AM

I already wondered how long itll take for some loser to bring up hitler

elron 08-06-2006 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
in other words : you are clueless and just like to include every single historical war that had civilians in it

keep reading , i promise that with in your 100's read the point will eventually come up , even for people with tiny IQ like yours .

evanmorgan 08-06-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
his grammar is right mr. drunk you should be the last one to try to educate anyone about grammar lol. he's using a past tense nothing's wrong with that.. you gotta adnit you lost it dude again dang! sorry! you have got to admit drunk dude that you had lost it :upsidedow

I thought I was right :1orglaugh

seven 08-06-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
we got your point , you wish hitler would finish the job and blah blah blah , there are some more creative nazis here in this board than you , go practice some more , cuz you sound like ab old broken gramophone :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

hey ya know mexicans would die unfed in their country too so lets import some illegal mexicans so eventually they can claim california to be their own independent state too :helpme you better not go driving now buddy.. atleast get a designated driver :stoned

Deputy Chief Command 08-06-2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Most israelis were born in israel . Where do you guys bring your facts from , you really amuse me .

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

seven 08-06-2006 08:34 AM

btw, it's not just europe preaching.. try the entire world preaching except Bush.

s9ann0 08-06-2006 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
EVERY american has european ancestors, europeans went everywhere from the states to australia to whatever shitty island.

I dont think if youre and your family was born and raised for 3 generations in the US you can consider yself european anymore.

ok so why is it everyone I meet from Boston tells me they are Irish ?!

:o))))

elron 08-06-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
I already wondered how long itll take for some loser to bring up hitler

I've read "illegal jews" , did you also wonder how long it'll take for some loser to bring up some antisemitic comments ? or you just think whoever says anything against nazis is a loser ?
keep pimping dutch teens , stick to whatever ur good at , cuz ur not impressing me on this part .

jayeff 08-06-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
I wont continue further more so you wont have to find out what is my opinion about hypocrites .

Maybe the answer to your question and also the response to your comment about "hypocrites" is the same: that Europeans have much more experience of war and know that ultimately creative map drawing and violence only lead to more violence.

The Balkans, since you mention them, is a good example of how conflicts can simmer for generations if not actually resolved. Come to that, arguably WW2 might never have happened were it not for the manner in which "peace" was made after WW1.

Dvae 08-06-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
EVERY american has european ancestors, europeans went everywhere from the states to australia to whatever shitty island.

I dont think if youre and your family was born and raised for 3 generations in the US you can consider yself european anymore.

Not true.
We have a term 'African-American' and most who fall in that category have never been to Africa, could probably not find it on a map, and are 10 generations or more removed from their closest relative who is from Africa.

Call them Black or the N-word or just American, you'll be called all sorts of names.

Damian_Maxcash 08-06-2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The thread is shit - but that is true. Israel believe as strongly as we believe our home is our castle that Israel is thier home.

They are 2nd or 3rd generation, of course they do - we fucked up when we gave it to them

Donny 08-06-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by evanmorgan
spelt

SPELLED. SPELLED. SPELLED.

KRL 08-06-2006 08:45 AM

Lebanon rejected the ceasefire deal.

:disgust

elron 08-06-2006 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
Maybe the answer to your question and also the response to your comment about "hypocrites" is the same: that Europeans have much more experience of war and know that ultimately creative map drawing and violence only lead to more violence.

The Balkans, since you mention them, is a good example of how conflicts can simmer for generations if not actually resolved. Come to that, arguably WW2 might never have happened were it not for the manner in which "peace" was made after WW1.

Oh great you just announced to everyone that you finally found out what causes war to take place . I'm sorry , but the situation here is a little more complicated than taking examples from ww1 peace agreement .
Many believes , including me , that if the allies in ww1 would finish ww1 the same way they finished ww2 , which means cutting the head of the snake and not leaving it wounded so he can recover and declare war again , in this case ww2 would never take place .
I would also like to be pacifist , to believe that if you get slapped by someone , give him your second chick and he'll become your best friend . History taught us that sometime you have to fight back in order to have you enemy realise that he'll better have peace with you rather then keeping fighting and losing . I'm sure that this what caused Miloshevits to surrender and stop his genocide against the albanians in kosovo , and without the massive nato bombards , he would probablly murder some 1000's more .

scottybuzz 08-06-2006 09:42 AM

ahhaha this is odd.

mikeyddddd 08-06-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny
SPELLED. SPELLED. SPELLED.

American and British English difference.

jayeff 08-06-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
History taught us that sometime you have to fight back in order to have you enemy realise that he'll better have peace with you rather then keeping fighting and losing.

History taught you no such thing, your own preconceptions did that. The only lesson of history is that eventually people move on. But "eventually" may be hundreds of years. If that is what you want for your country, fine.

Fortunately most Israelis do not share your point of view. There are a lot like you who think a big stick solves everything, but there are just as many who would pay a high price for peace and the majority just want to live normally, providing they can do so securely. Some people, such as my mother-in-law, have lived there long enough to have endured 70+ years of your "solution". It is beginning to wear a bit thin.

When you get over being so naive, you might want to wonder how much of current events there has more to do with your Prime Minister's appalling popularity ratings than with any tangible benefit for the population at large.

DOX 08-06-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spanno
oh I dunno about that but most of them were from europe same with the yamericans!

1. What could they do after 1945, WW2 and could they think about after MAJORITY of Europian jews have been killed by europians (who like teach everyone today)?

2. oh I dunno about that but most of them were from Palestine before they fled to Europe :)

3. Most Israelis are Israelis and they were born in Israel and this is the fact for today.

Sly 08-06-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx
EVERY american has european ancestors, europeans went everywhere from the states to australia to whatever shitty island.

Every American does not have European ancestors. Of course it depends on what you define as ancestors, if you want to go back thousands and thousands of years, we all come from the same place.

But based on your follow up of 3 generations, many many Americans definitely do not have European ancestry. Many many come from Africa, Asia, and then the indigenous peoples. I would say South America as well but I'll let you keep that in the European bundle.

seven 08-06-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
Every American does not have European ancestors. Of course it depends on what you define as ancestors, if you want to go back thousands and thousands of years, we all come from the same place.

yo sly, couldn't be thousands and thousands of years since American civilization is only 400 years old.. 1607: Virginia Colony founded 1st British Colony.. :2 cents:

BlueDesignStudios 08-07-2006 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL
Lebanon rejected the ceasefire deal.

:disgust

not like it would have held anyway..

Gunni 08-07-2006 04:03 AM

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Why Do europians tend to preach US and israel how to do their wars ?
Because we have more experience in the matter :upsidedow

Gunni 08-07-2006 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
yo sly, couldn't be thousands and thousands of years since American civilization is only 400 years old.. 1607: Virginia Colony founded 1st British Colony.. :2 cents:

maybe you should read his post again...

wjxxx 08-07-2006 04:10 AM

It`s a lie. NATO killed 500 civilians not 10,000

elron 08-07-2006 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx
It`s a lie. NATO killed 500 civilians not 10,000


The Pentagon has suggested that only twenty to thirty incidents resulted in civilian deaths during Operation Allied Force. The Yugoslav government has claimed that NATO was responsible for at least 1,200 and as many as 5,000 civilian deaths.


that is taken from http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/02/nato207.htm

Manowar 08-07-2006 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
yeah and you should have replied with "you HAVE lost my...." .

grammar lesson is over , retard :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What he said was fine.

xcitecash 08-07-2006 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
Is czech republic part of nato pact ? not sure about that , in either case im sure you pacifist guy Mr markham begged for a cease fire when nato killed over 10,000 serb civillians in kosovo bombards few years ago , and that was without a single missle from serbia falling in their lands . Where was your civillian care back then ?
I wont continue further more so you wont have to find out what is my opinion about hypocrites .

Typical to call it a "NATO" attack on Kosovo.. one of the the single biggest bombing raids in history was organised and perpatrated by Clinton and the American forces. but if it makes you feel better that NATO flags were deployed on US equipment then i am happy for you

just as it is a US/Israel attack on Lebanon not just Israel....

There were US military planes landing with laser guided missiles on their way to Israel landing at a civilian airport in Scotland weeks before the so called kidnapping of the two Israeli soldiers that allegedly started this conflict

xcitecash 08-07-2006 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
yo sly, couldn't be thousands and thousands of years since American civilization is only 400 years old.. 1607: Virginia Colony founded 1st British Colony.. :2 cents:


Are you seriously suggesting civilisation is only 400 years old in America.


boy do you need a history lesson

xcitecash 08-07-2006 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elron
The Pentagon has suggested that only twenty to thirty incidents resulted in civilian deaths during Operation Allied Force. The Yugoslav government has claimed that NATO was responsible for at least 1,200 and as many as 5,000 civilian deaths.


that is taken from http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/02/nato207.htm

I love it ........

The Pentagon also said a plane hit it on 9/11.... so we believe all they say

Webby 08-07-2006 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xcitecash
I love it ........

The Pentagon also said a plane hit it on 9/11.... so we believe all they say

The Pentagon counts what the Pentagon thnks it should count to serve their best interests.

It's a form of lying my ommission.

elron 08-07-2006 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xcitecash
I love it ........

The Pentagon also said a plane hit it on 9/11.... so we believe all they say

Read again , the finall figure are received from The Yugoslav government .

justsexxx 08-07-2006 05:26 AM

Politics on GFY suck, because most ppl on GFY are clueless regarding political issues...

As far as Europeans telling America how todo their war(so not israel)....Well maybe because America(the government) tells everyone else how to act, while they fuck up their own country?


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