Is bookmarked traffic the best possible quality for tgps?
 

Or is it a waste of time trying to build bookmarkers?
Or is bookmarked and CJ traffic both about equal?

I'm thinking about in the future if I have lots of bookmarkers and list mostly my own galleries. Do bookmarkers tend to buy more or is it the circle jerked surfer who buys more, maybe because theyre tired of being jerked and just say fuck it and buy a membership.

Building bookmarkers takes a lot of time (for me anyways) and if in the end it's a waste of time to do this instead of just jerking the surfers, I'd rather find out now than waste years building up bookmarkers who in the end dont buy.

Good question!

I watch my bookmarker stats, who knows really, you can never tell which surfer bought it when you have sooo many links ya know. At least I cant hehehe

Building bookmarkers is what its all about.

Where do you think the hun gets 1.5 million uniques a day from?

search engines? I don't think so.

traffic trades? nope.

well I just hear stories of webmasters getting dozens of sales from a gallery on Thehun. I dont know much about thehun but since he doesnt trade traffic I'm guessing most of those surfers are bookmarkers.

Thats my only benchmark that tells me that taking the time to build bookmarkers is worth it.

bookmark traffic is very valueable. It's all about getting in front of the surfer FIRST.

it's why type in is soo valueable.
it's why search engine traffic is good.
and it's why bookmaked traffic is GOLD

This is good info for me, thanks Sleazy
:thumbsup

Wow, you said something helpful. I'm writing this shit down on the ol' calendar.

Anybody have a script that will accurately count bookmarkers? I use TM3 and I don't think it is giving me an accurate reading..

I'd prefer if you ICQ me .. 102707188

Thanks!

Also a good thing about bookmarkers is if you have a combination of trades and bookmarkers as your bookmarkers grow you have more hits to play around with allowing you to increase your advertising aggressiveness. Allowing for more sales :)

Now just why don't you want the rest of use to have this tool you want?

I be sure to tell you how I get search engine traffic.
And how I retain bookmarker traffic I get from search engine's.

I said ICQ simply because I dont usually keep up with the threads I post on.. :321GFY

what our Leader said! =))

I ask a question and :321GFY :321GFY

bump.

If you really want bookmark traffic, its better to not skim your galleries at all. But of course, not skimming means few hits to trades other than your toplist.. I've tried raising my skimming to see if I get more bookmarkers, and it doesn't seem to help much.

www.bookmarklottery.com :thumbsup

"bookmark traffic is very valueable."

... in my opinion it´s the worst traffic there is on the web, they know what they want, they know what they get, and they know it´s free ... even forced 404 traffic converts better .... bookmark traffic only looks good in your webstats, not your sponsor stats ...

When you're dealing with shitty TGP traffic, this may true.

But your'e definately backworks on Search Engine vs Bookmarking.

SE Traffic is alot better than Bookmarked traffic.

excellent point. bookmarkers know your tricks and games, since they come there often :)

i dont think bookmarkers is good traffic..my experince is that they only is there for free.. they who signups from the tgp (thehun as example) is OFTEN first time user.. first time they are on that tgp and a gallery .. that what i think.
daily porn surfers does make money the newbies make money

Bookmarkers are cunts I cant belive why they should bookmark my sites I should add more popups , fuck off you cunts and get your free porn eleswhere

... ahhh ... almost forgot, there was a time when you were able to autobookmark a website with some js-exploit ... that traffic converted surprisingly great !! to bad ms has supplied the world with a patch ...

if you have bookmark traffic, it means they've found a place where they don't need to buy what they want. If you have a lot of bookmarked traffic, you've got a lot of people who've found what they want without paying for it.

good traffic? if you're in the business of giving shit away I guess. :1orglaugh

3 words : Yes It IS


500 % sure . I've had 600k + of crap trading traffic and after came in bookmark ... 3-4 times more sale with bookmarks, less work etc.

Trading surfers and bookmark dosen't make a difference for sales I think ... The difference is :

A bookmarker will visit 15-20 galleries on your site and click on your ads more than other thing .

A normal traded one will click 3 times . that's 5 time less . THoses surfers bookmarked a trading tgp and didn'T found a good one yet or started from a good one and ended up there ... that'S about it . tgp traffic is mostly recycled traffic .

if you add new things often and have good marketing bookmark should be way better .

no they won't. :)

a surfer coming to your site for the first time is the one you're most likely to make money on. period. :)

I haven't read all the thread but did you put the ScriptAlias
and the html tag in your page....

I use TM3 too and for me it seems to be working just fine.

DynaMite

"A bookmarker will visit 15-20 galleries on your site and click on your ads more than other thing ."

... bookmarkers are the most frequent banner clickers, they love clicking on banners so much it makes them return every day .... hmmm ... interesting theorie ... you´ve got some stats to prove that statement ... ??

It might not be the best converting traffic it's a fact that
bookmarkers click galleries....while doing so they visit trades.
So their clicks are productive clicks.

You need productive clicks to be able to grow....especially when
you depend on trades. Bookmarkers are not send by trades
so they are extra traffic. See it as the ice topping of the cake.

DynaMite :2 cents:

TM3 trade info:[ie bookmark] hit:77 uniq:35 clck:410 ret:0 prod:27.33 eff:0.00

those click are productive clicks only....now tell me again that
bookmark traffic sucks ass for TGP's :winkwink:

DynaMite

Yes my TM3 stats are similar, but I have had a steady 35k for several months and it does seem right that I have so few bookmarkers.

TM3 trade info:[ie bookmark] hit:211 uniq:56 clck:169 ret:0 prod:3.02 eff:0.00

we should trade :thumbsup

DynaMite

Bookmark surfers help push traffic to trades and are wonderful to have if your website goes down for several hours.
worldsex.com was down last week over 16 hours one day. Without any bookmark surfers, his traffic & trades would be hurting right now.

I think bookmark traffic on a tgp is a good thing.

Get me on ICQ.. 102707188

This hits the nail right on the head and yet you all seem to ignore it.

I'm not trading at all on this site so I dont care about trades or generating clicks or skimming ratio.

I only care about sales from galleries and banners. Do bookmarkers buy?

Horny Joe loves your site, he bookmarks it. One day horny Joe is looking at porn while his wife is away, your advertisements intrigue him, he wants the best quality, he knows he can get away with it. He visits the site 2-3 times before he finally decides to click your banner and buy a membership.

Yes, bookmarkers buy.

If you don't plan to trade then how on earth can you even ask if bookmarks are important?

trades/bookmarks is like 95% of the traffic on tgps. SE & recips don't account for much.

If you don't trade, then you need bookmark hits. How many hits/day would thehun get if he had zero bookmark return surfers?

Horny Joe loves your site, he bookmarks it. One day horny Joe is looking at porn while his wife is away, your advertisements intrigue him, he wants the best quality but he knows he can't get away with it, the wife pays the CCbills. He visits the site 2-3 times before he finally decides he's seen all of the free stuff on your site and moves on to the next TGP. He'll check you out again when you update.

No, bookmarkers don't buy.

speak when spoken to unless you have a clue

It appears we are talking about different Joes, the one who pays his own ccbill signs up and you make bank.

this from a man that keeps dropping Adult programs and only sells porn when he has venture capital money buying it.

what else would we expect from 12clicks though....

or.. Horny Joe's wife is out of town. Joe is horny as fuck, so he wants some porn, quick. he finds out your TGP somehow, clicks on some galleries, but wants more. he hits up a paysite and buys a membership.

i think the instant gratification is the key, not the bookmarked visitor. if he's horny he'll buy from you whether it's his first time or not. if it's not his first time, he might know where you keep the larger stash of free porn.. and maybe he won't buy. Horny First Timer Joe won't know where to look so will go for the quickest fix.

'first' is the key word to understand if you want to sell ANYTHING

does anyone who's been in this business more than a month take this joker seriously?

he can't even get the most rudimentary of facts right. :1orglaugh


you're under 25, aren't you? once you understand the ways of the world, you'll understand what a small % of Joes you're after. :)

Is link trade traffic worthless? I mean it comes from other sites and it is just curious or unsatisfied surfers coming to your site? But then again I always thought bookmarkers were non paying bastards who just found a great site they could wack off on. I am learning a lot about traffic, More comments on this thread please.

Yep, only a fuckin egotistical dipshit would argue that bookmarked traffic is better than SE traffic. :)

Thats why you always have people saying... "I've got bookmark traffic to trade for your search engine traffic".

Spoken like a true ignorant, arrogant bitch.

I wanted to bump this tread for the fun of it.

You guys are funny

:) Tell me all your sites and i will bookmark them for tommorow :)