The problem I have with almost ALL blog directories is...
 

that they expect me to put a link in my blog sidebar for their directory, and all I get from them is a single link buried in their site

The issue with this is that they are actually getting a link back to their site from every page on my site, and I only get one link back from their site.....and I could end up with 1000 pages on my blog, and they get 1000 links back, and I still only get one single link back from their site

blogs are a different breed from other sites that are submitted...a free site gives one link back and the link list gives one links back...etc etc

I could go in and change up each theme page on my blog and only allow that categories links on my main page, which I am considering, but still, the common thing going right now is that directories gets hundreds of links back from blogs and they only give us one link back

So, from now on I am setting up each blog with a page like this - http://www.constantbabes.com/blog-directories/ - and if the directory won't take this as a form of linking back, then oh well, I can deal without their 10 hits a day

very interesting :) I wonder if this will work

I hear ya' they tend too operate like noboby looking for recip. link knows anything about seo.

I am just not about giving someone a link on ever page of my site, when they aren't going to do that same

I could care less to be honest, 99% of the blog directories out there barely send any traffic as it is, so not having their 5-10 hits a day isn't going to kill me

their traffic isnt worth shit generally anyway so remove them

yup...I used to be all about submitting anywhere I could, but now I am trying to be careful and examine each site one by one

if they are all right with being on my directories page, then cool :) if not, see yah!

Nice idea Jace, but what to do if I've already submited to these directories and setup the recip page as index.html ? re-submit ? edit submission ? or maybe leave it as it is and focus on more important things ? ...

you got me man.....I have a few blogs that I have already submitted to all the directories, and I am leaving those as is...mybe possibly in the future emailing each owner and talking to them

but any new blog type site I have up I am going to use this strategy

i just about quit doing hardlink trades with anyone but myself

In wordpress create a page called "links". On the page add all your link exchanges. Point submitter to that page. Its accesible from your site, not buried so totally legal. You could go as far as to add diff pages for each niche as you go. 2c

and that requires some serious background, right?... I have almost 200 domains and the same amount of IP's ... still, hardlinking with other webmasters works better for me :-)

It would be great if there is a way to check out quality of hardlinks and possibly move some of less effective hardlinks to separate page - like Jace created for those blog directories ... any ideas here ? :-)

Jizzmaker is a nice blog.. very well designed. You ever want to trade hardlinks let me know k? :thumbsup

The blog directory should actually thank you - site-wide links from across your blog can get a penalty. Ever wonder why so few blog directories have decent PR?

And blogs aren't really set up SEO-wise for link exchanges, as most blog software has the templates repeat on all sub-pages. This means any hardcoded link in your template will appear on archives of each post, etc. Long-term this can hurt your linking partners more than help.

it's not hard it all depends on what your goal is, you dont' have to have a ton of links unless you're just trying to trade traffic

how are you doing with blogs?

Hehe, thanks, I've added your site already so please add mine too :-p
TEXT: JizzMaker.com
URL: jizzmaker.com

Anyway, you should update your HTML and put something into the TITLE tag ... just a suggestion :-)

I added you thanks. Thanks for the tip as well :)

thread of the day jace, thats exactly how i feel about blog directories too... my new blog also got a seperate page for link exchanges.

This isn't just limited to blog directories. There are several blogs out there that only have their blogroll on the front page.

I have turned down many a link trade because of this.

I think you are right. It's not fair to give them a link on every one of your pages when all they give you is a single link.

Not a very intelligent way of doing things, but I see that repeated almost daily here on GFY

I admit, I've been there, done that. :Oh crap

live and learn I suppose

What I do most often is to get a few trades with established, quality sites that are interested in trades with a new site (generally not that many), then wait for pr and traffic to go up, and after that, add more trades with other established, quality sites. Trading with other new sites often only causes headaches.

... and than the blog owners see the crap you post on GFY and take your links down. Counterproductivity at it's finest:)

I guess I called you an idiot somewhere and you're still upset about it? If so, you probably deserved it :2 cents:

Well, trading links with a blog just because it is a blog is not a smart way of doing things. Also, there is something to be said for trading links with new sites, as long as they are relevant trades.

It is all about being natural.

Of course, you should always trade with sites (not necessarily blogs, btw) that can provide relevant links, that goes without saying.

As for being natural... as soon as you start trading links, you already lose a lot of the whole "natural links" thing :winkwink:

Jace, you may just want to work more with the trackbacks, than the directories. Im not saying get rid of submitting to them., Just do more trackbacks.

blog directories are total waste of time.

I tried doing that with the extra page and a bunch wont accept it.

trackbacks are the ultimate link exchange . . . . just make sure they don't have the nofollow tag

hey baddog,

Why do you think trackbacks are more effective than a link in a blogroll? And by blogroll I dont mean the javascript produced one but an actual hard link.

Experience.

I don't mean to be rude but generally speaking the people that run blog directories are blood-sucking freaks

not me.. I just dont like your style :helpme

Good for you. Here's a cookie.

http://twiggs.org/images/5203-bakery...hip-cookie.jpg

jace, i setup a new blog, added only 15 link directories and 2 other link trades (not big ones), i had my 600uniques/day term ranked first page in google in 5 days, they aren't always that bad :)

Jace, you're a complete failure in the business, just move on and save yourself some trouble. Anyone that has watched you or even met you (which I have) realizes that you have no idea what you are talking about, that is why you are always posting nonsense. You could not even make a buck off your own wifes porn site, now your doing blogs and anything else to make 50 cents. Give up pretending to be a player, you had to lease eye surgery for gods sake, seriously Jace, give up

Only 15 directories and you have so good traffic?Wiggles can be same recept used for mainstream blog?

some directories - good - some bad

I usually choose the one that would be more productive ...

I wish you luck in the biz ... :pimp

lol....nice fake nick

yoyoyoyooooo

[QUOTE=Jace]that they expect me to put a link in my blog sidebar for their directory, and all I get from them is a single link buried in their site

The problem I have running an adult blog directory is you bury a link to our directory in a link list of font size 4px with 10,000 other links, send 0 traffic and expect 5k a day in return :1orglaugh

you know, I hear you on that though...and I agree 100%..and I opened this thread in reality to dicuss what can be done on both sides of the spectrum to appease both parties involved

I created that blog-directories page on my site, and will be linking that to get it to reach a higher PR and possibly get indexed, which will help some...but what do you, as a blog directory owner, have to offer as constructive criticism for what can be done on both ends to make everything work better?

I think there has to be a better way for everyone....tgp's worked on it til they finally found a good way to do it, so I think blogs need to also....this whole blog thing is pretty new, so there are definitely things that can be improved on along the way while it is still early

Good thread :)

I only submit to blog directories that I know do me good traffic wise or SE wise, takes some trial and error though

Good thread, maybe start a blog directory? :)

Actually teksonline's blog directory actually has a clue, few others do,

#1, it's for indexing your blog and getting exposure.... helping your blog
get indexed 500 times faster, helping your blog get more "search engine eyes"
the more it see's you the more you are rewarded.

#2, there may not be a lot of traffic, but if your blog is specified
and niche targetted correctly, the 5 hits a day, may indeed turn into 5
subscribers per day. That is the goal of a blog is it not? To get subscribers.

You are not going to be sending traffic back with links, you know it, so who are you kidding, if you were, you would remove it as everyone is greedy.

Secondly it's your blog template that put's links on every page, i have many blogs with only links that show on the main page but that is because I know how to make a template. So you give a link on every page is you're fault, it has nothing to do with fairness lol.

You're idea of a blog is not even of what a blog is, your blogs are simply
doorway pages to a bunch of sponsors.. How are you going to get subscribers with that spam crap? Shit, I rather click on spam email then
look at those pathetic pics that link to tours which will then pop up 5000
consoles to the point i have to close all browsers

Now you just have a totally bad mindset, you are blaming blog directories for your lack of success? Shit, you can't just build a pretty design and fill it with rss feeds and potd crap and get traffic... The real bloggers are targetting in a fan club aspect, or have real literature, or something of interest to read or view on a particular subject. Ever see a link to this type of adult blog?Starting to wonder if they even exist, lol.

You don't even have tekonlines blog directory in your list, you shitcanned him, probably because he told you off when you submit your spam crap to his directory most likely. Like your blog means anything to his site, he is probably
penalized for listing your doorway spam on his directory..

But let's look at the facts..

#1 At his blog directory, you get a hard link, with the anchor text you want, along with a huge description in the category of your choice,
(niche targetted to the max) what more can you want in a link exchaneg?

#2 He is a SE genious, let's take a look at how he cleverly claimed the following keywords, im sure alot more, i am just doing this lookup as I type this.

1. Adult blog directories, (scored first page on yahoo, google)
2. Adult blog sites (#1 All)
3. Adult blogs (first page google)

His site climbs and climbs, and gains more reputation daily as he has become the authority he has seeked out to be, by limited junk entries, keeping things in order and not being a lame dump site, cleverly not overdoing any page and targetting to the niche of the end user sites


So, if you have a real blog, you really need to be in his
Adult Blogs
site and hand indexed directory.

This does wonders for any blog that trades with him, if you can't see the benefit in that, you should not even be doing a link trade with anyone

Before I start this please realize I have 3 mainstream blogs, 2 porn blogs, 10 spam porn blogs and 1 blog type site...what you see me post isn't everything I have....and when I say a "blog", I mean a blog with real text discussions, etc.....so, I am not an idiot when it comes to blogs, you all just only see my spammy blogs, because any time I post a real blog on GFY it gets hit with so much comment spam and negative shit I have to delete.

I agree, teks has a solid blog directory and it is one of the few that I can check my stats every day and see traffic from....his will also be one of the few that gets a main page placement on some of my new sites once I get the referrer script up and running on them....I never singled his directory out, you just made it seem like I did, when in reality I just specifically said almost all directories

I never blamed blog directories for any success or lack there of you think I might or might not have....don't ASSume that is where I am going with this thread

his directory is in my list, how do you even have my list? (creepy) and he accepts every single blog I submit to him

stop with the negativity already, even you said with your first line "teksonline's blog directory actually has a clue, few others do", which is EXACTLY what my thread was originally about, DEAD ON, then you took it to a whole new level by bashing me and my work...wtf man?