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CheeseFrog 07-30-2006 07:58 PM

So I replaced my $6k camera setup with a $300 digital
 
Ok I didn't totally replace it. My Canon EOS-1DMkII (24-70mm 2.8L glass, 550EX flash, about a TB worth of memory cards) is off being repaired, so I picked up one of those Canon Digital Elph SD30's at Fry's. Below are some sample shots taken with the 1DMkII and some sample shots taken with the Digital Elph. Do you guys think it's worth the $5k+ difference?

EOS-1DMkII
http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity171_03.jpg

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity171_04.jpg

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity171_05.jpg


Digital Elph SD30
http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity181_02.jpg

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity181_03.jpg

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity181_05.jpg

tony286 07-30-2006 07:59 PM

besides the colors are more vivid not much different lol

notabook 07-30-2006 08:01 PM

Just more proof that it's not the camera that really matters but the hands that it's in. :thumbsup

sweetcuties 07-30-2006 08:02 PM

Prefer the Digital Elph SD30

xclusive 07-30-2006 08:02 PM

Not worth the 5k+ upgrade as far as I can see

Ray@TastyDollars 07-30-2006 08:02 PM

ha...ha...haa choooo

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity181_05.jpg


go bless you!



Both sets look great :thumbsup

Dynamix 07-30-2006 08:06 PM

If you add a $20 filter attachment to the digi I'd say they're equal ;)

Basic_man 07-30-2006 08:06 PM

I like the result with the 300$ cam, but there's one big difference :)

Libertine 07-30-2006 08:10 PM

How can we tell if you don't use the same amount of compression on each set?

Show some high quality, large pictures of each set, and maybe we'll be able to say something useful :2 cents:

Dagwolf 07-30-2006 08:10 PM

Different lighting, different background.. it's not a fair comparison.

MikeVega 07-30-2006 08:14 PM

I think it helps that you know about lighting and angles to shoot .. the first set does have better color ..

Grapesoda 07-30-2006 08:18 PM

I shoot with a 4 mg camera myself

Doctor Dre 07-30-2006 08:30 PM

It was 2 different days ugh ? The lightning is so different ... the first = warm lithing

the 2nd = cold light

CheeseFrog 07-30-2006 08:39 PM

Yeah, shot different days, similar conditions. The SD30 was set on "Auto White Balance" and unfortunately the pics came out on the cool side. Almost looks Nikon'ish. I couldn't get the nice warm tones like I could with the 1-series. One thing the pics don't show is the speed of the camera. With the 1-series I can just crank out as many pics as I care to take. Press the button and the thing fires. With the Digital Elph, usually when I press the button it takes a good 3-4 seconds for the thing to actually fire. This is in itself is so frustrating it makes the price difference almost worth it for that feature alone. :)

cj_purve 07-30-2006 08:40 PM

I don't think the difference is anything that matters for web, but the elph ones are a little flat in color, not as much contrast.

But isn't it amazing the pics some of the cheaper cameras can take these days?! If your lighting is right, there's very little difference noticable on a computer. I always have my old coolpix with me when I shoot because there's some types of lighting it just handles easier.

E$_manager 07-30-2006 08:44 PM

all pics are perfect.

Matt 26z 07-30-2006 08:46 PM

Look at the URL watermark on each set. The first has been compressed so much that the photos look like shit.

BSleazy 07-30-2006 08:47 PM

The last pics are way better.

latinasojourn 07-30-2006 08:48 PM

web jpg compression rates downgrade image quality of high rez camera sensors and lenses.

so you really can't tell too much with small web samples.

now if you were looking at full-size raw images you would see huge difference.

also, the closer you are to the subject matter will be a factor and how the image is cropped.

shooting a landscape and then enlarging it to full size you will see a big difference.

true, a digital rebel is probably good enough for web work, but for pro photography requiring cropping, or large display prints you need good equip.

truth is, "consumer" grade cameras will usually look better for web work because they are setup with default sharpening and color saturation, with pro cameras you are usually doing more post processing work to get the look you want.

2HousePlague 07-30-2006 08:50 PM

Sweet fucking ass -- :thumbsup -- whatever equipment ya use -- :winkwink:

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity171_03.jpg


2hp

Digipimp 07-30-2006 08:57 PM

ummm would surfers really notice the difference? probably not so why waste more money.

John69 07-30-2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digipimp
ummm would surfers really notice the difference? probably not so why waste more money.

there ya go :thumbsup

Matt 26z 07-30-2006 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve
I don't think the difference is anything that matters for web, but the elph ones are a little flat in color, not as much contrast.

This isn't 1997. Monitors are big and beautiful now. Images online can now be better than that of magazines and rival photographs. So I don't agree with the old "it's just for the web" stuff anymore.

The Elph images can be improved by adding saturation in an image editor. I just tried bumping the first one up +20 and there is a clear improvement in the color.

Sosa 07-30-2006 09:12 PM

they are all nice pics :)

Gerco 07-30-2006 09:14 PM

I like the first pic the best, nice focal lenth. You can do that with the cheap cameras.

CheeseFrog 07-30-2006 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
The Elph images can be improved by adding saturation in an image editor. I just tried bumping the first one up +20 and there is a clear improvement in the color.

Hmm interesting. I'm going to try that right now :thumbsup

Juilan 07-30-2006 09:38 PM

I like the DOF and color rendition on the EOS-1DMkII better, the Elph reminds me of the cheaper sony ccd's like the early cybershots. With the Elph you could maybe get by with smaller 800x600 sized web photos but try making a calendar of prints of your exclusive girls for members and it just ain't gonna compare.

Kimo 07-30-2006 10:13 PM

i think im going to go pick one of those up soon!

Vitasoy 07-31-2006 02:05 AM

Can't really tell so go with the 300 cam :)

Mutt 07-31-2006 02:35 AM

http://www.omgzilla.com/jayden/divinity171_03.jpg

awesome shot - she's got a gorgeous body.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-31-2006 02:41 AM

Great subject:)

A picture is a picture, even ones taken with a cheap cell phone.

For example.
http://www.fastestturbofireengine.co...ixing/sky3.jpg

Anyone can produce content these days. I started out with a Cybershot 3.2 Megapixel. The technology makes it easy, it's point and shoot.

Havign an eye for whats good is a whole different matter but then again "Whats Good" is perceptual. What you think is good might not be,what you think is bad I might like.

LiveDose 07-31-2006 05:28 AM

Jayden is oh so fine...

nico-t 07-31-2006 05:43 AM

i prefer the sharpness of the digital pics

rowan 07-31-2006 05:46 AM

The 1DII shots look heavily filtered. Can you post sample shots straight out of each cam, resized & watermarked only?

I don't think I'll ever give up my brick - no compact goes down to 12mm rectilinear!

CheeseFrog 07-31-2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
The 1DII shots look heavily filtered. Can you post sample shots straight out of each cam, resized & watermarked only?

I don't think I'll ever give up my brick - no compact goes down to 12mm rectilinear!

Those are pretty much straight out of the cam. Except for some Gaussian Blur brush to hide some of her acne and a couple mosquito bites that she got (we forgot to bring bug spray. Color, contrast, DOF, etc are all straight out of the camera.

flashfreak 07-31-2006 09:21 AM

nice pics...
I'd say it's not worth the extra $.

pornguy 07-31-2006 09:27 AM

For some reason, the first set just looks like they have been shopped already. I like the colors in the second set. Now I know exactly what you mean about the speed of the photos. I have a 20d, and an older SonyFD95. the 95 shoots 2.1mega, and the photos are nice, but it takes about 18 seconds between photos.

CamsLord 07-31-2006 09:28 AM

based on those sample pics, it's not much of a difference

OMG Jim 07-31-2006 09:41 AM

I've been using the Canon Elph at the last three shows and I think that they are best for the closer shots. The lighting can be tricky especially when you are not using the flash. It is frustrating having to hold the button and wait for the click. The camera's size is also what makes it such a great little camera.

If I were going to sell the photos then I would definitely go for a more sophisticated set up.

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divinity 07-31-2006 08:51 PM

personally I prefer the second set with the cheap camera! maybe because it's more real looking...

vidvicious 07-31-2006 09:25 PM

actually you lose the depth of field with the 300$ jobber

anne 07-31-2006 11:00 PM

Yea i love my elph :)

KRL 07-31-2006 11:09 PM

The 2nd set from the less expensive camera looks much better.

johnnyhey 07-31-2006 11:10 PM

depth of field is much better on a real camera, if you're shooting pro, there's NO way to get DOF with the elf.

L-Pink 07-31-2006 11:18 PM

Take 5,000 photos and see which shutter still works.


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