To Clarify difference between Model Release and 2257 information.
 

When inspections are done 2 things are going to be looked for as the law states now and as Ive been told by LArry Walters.

1 - GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDs
2- 2257 information.

The law requires to show both. No where does it show that you need to show model release, We have a seperate form for all required 2257 info that has all government required criteria and date of production on it. We then have seperate forms which is the model release which the model gives all the legal righst to us.

We DO NOT have to give out model releases to people buying content. We will give out non blocked IDs..even tho the law requires 1 form of government acceptable id on file.. and will giove out 2257 information form.

In my opinion people asking for releases dont know the law or are intending to rip you off and resell your content as SOBE did to me years ago.

So if you are looking to buy content from us, we will not give out model release but will giive out 2257 docs and ids.

another 2257 thread ....ho hum

i know its a pain in the ass.. but i just lost a sale and wasted time pulling sets as some people think 2257 docs means model releases and it does not.

2257 is extremely specific as to what is to be supplied and has NOTHING to do with a model release.

2257 is PROOF OF AGE not RIGHT TO SELL or USE which model release is.

Outstanding info, Thanks!

most content providers supply 2257 IDs and model releases if you order exclusives and blanked out if non, I dont see the point in witholding them

The main thing is non-blacked out government issued ID's cross referenced to the images.

shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.

(b) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall, with respect to every performer portrayed in a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct?

(1) ascertain, by examination of an identification document containing such information, the performer?s name and date of birth, and require the performer to provide such other indicia of his or her identity as may be prescribed by regulations;

(2) ascertain any name, other than the performer?s present and correct name, ever used by the performer including maiden name, alias, nickname, stage, or professional name; and

(3) record in the records required by subsection (a) the information required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection and such other identifying information as may be prescribed by regulation.

if you look at par (1) - it says IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENT..not documents which means 1 ID. and in detail it gives list of acceptable primary documents

State Issue identification card or drivers license
US Passport
Military ID card

That sucks. your are corrrect.
That said, Before last July when a model walked for a shoot common pratice was to simply scan her id. Perhaps take a picture of her holding said id's. and have her fill out a release. Most production companies were not forward thinking enough to have the model fill out a separate signed legal form listing what is now required by 2257. It wasn't an issue back then.

Correct when we sell EXCLUSIVE we give 2257 doc, model releases, and IDs

when we sell non exclusive we give out 2257 doc and ID, non blacked out

I still need your personal government issued ID since you are in the content. please email it to me bro!

thats perfect

yes , im glad i wasnt far in the biz before I met Larry Walters and since then ive had a seperate model release and 2257 because as provider i will not give out releases unless its exclusive

i just sent it on ICQ

Uhm, this isn't a "2257" post, it is a "you don't need or get the model release" post - and I totally agree with Joe. I had a similar event happen, where the dude bought some content as website members area filler - and then all of a sudden, he's reselling it - making DVD's out of it - and had it up on AEBN & HOTMOVIES, etc...Fuck that!

The model releases aren't involved at all with 2257, etc...

Good post, Joe

Fitz

the man is correct most dont know that

that's right. a lot of people think the two are related but really they're not.

that's right. a lot of people think the two are related but really they're not.

As long as the 2257 criteria is covered and the date of production is on the same sheet, youre covered. Check with your attorney for the correct criteria or hit me up and ill show you.

Shooter Biz 101

Can see why you may be better stating the obvious here amacontent :thumbsup