3 yrs PRISON for nipple piercing videos (2257)
 

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=272586

Does anyone know any more info about this site/story

3 years for nipple piercing vids seems a bit serious. did a search for the video to see whats on it , but i cant find it anywhere. i imagine it must be some sort of s&m video or bondage or something

That sucks.

:(

I liked you old sig better!

:)

3 years? ouch!

jeesh....amred robbersget less than that

That is truly fucked up.

he alsmot got 5.

It doesn't even make sense, logic or law wise... unless the judge was too drunk to know better...

"Judge Sanders rejected the argument that violence is a First Amendment-protected form of speech."

Nipples piercing, violence? Might want to look up your dictionary there, your honor:

1. Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence.
2. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior.
3. Intensity or severity, as in natural phenomena; untamed force: the violence of a tornado.
4. Abusive or unjust exercise of power.
5. Abuse or injury to meaning, content, or intent: do violence to a text.
6. Vehemence of feeling or expression; fervor.

3 years? Wow, what a crime :helpme

I'm not saying they had a right to do it, but they weren't nipple piercing vids. They were selling rape/torture videos. Very extreme stuff. Site was ForbiddenVideos.com.

The guy posted on gfy not long ago.
I think "Convicted" was his nick

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

how ironic

thats what im wondering but if it is rape/torture videos why would AVN try to cop it off as being "nipple piercing".

Im just wondering if its s&m / bondage or actual rape/torture depictions ?

Now that is quite a different story, thanks for the truth. :thumbsup

Piercing? Try rape videos.

Those guys ran Forbidden Videos.

"After securing a conviction against the Ragsdales, federal prosecutors turned their attention to Gartman and McDowell, who operated ForbiddenVideos.com. According to prosecutors, the site was used to advertise and sell obscene content distributed via VHS cassettes, CDs and streaming video. The video in question depicted rape scenes, sexual torture and other explicit sex acts, prosecutors said."

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=16231

not at all, he already knew about it.

wow.... 3 years for videos?... I wonder what lots of nipple piercing pics would cost someone?

SMokey, here is the deal:

Tom Gartman made his money selling videos of rapes. Pure and simple. The material on the tapes shows nothing but non consentual acts, including nipple piercing where the person getting the piercing is bound, gagged, and otherwise restrained.

This guy is truly one of the sickest fucks you will ever meet, and 3 years is nowhere near enough for what some of these girls were subject to.

We should all be happy that the courts are smart enough to know the difference between consentual and non-consentual sex acts.

I dont mind S/M and bondage, but rape is sick. Even if its simulated.

i'm not familiar with the website , but im looking at it now on the waybackmachine and it looks like a "simulated" rape site.. i dont promote those type's of sites and i am kind of "on the fence" on them. We see simulated DEATH scenes on t.v. all day long , that doesnt mean we murder people, so why should it be any different from rape . Youtube has videos of people being killed in car accidents, is it any more/less sick ? infact we see simulated rape scenes on t.v. and with the invention of tv recording devices it put the ability for the consumer to capture and re-display t.v. rape scenes back to back so is it really that "sick" to have "simulated" rape/torture videos.

but then again realistically i am thinking to myself , who would be buying these videos .. prob perv wannabe rapists, but on the other hand are people who watch car accidents sick wannabe murderers/accidenters lol

ok these were real rapes ? or simulated rapes ?

First let me say that I have a close family member that was raped and I certanly have no compasion for rapists.


I think you are being unfair to these guys.

The key phrase is "According to prosecutors" which does not mean shit.

What counts is the jury and they had an opportunity to find the "rape" video obscene but didn't.

Since they equate "nipple piercing" with "sexual torture" the "rape" video must have been pretty mild.


PAIR FOUND GUILTY IN OBSCENITY TRIAL

Smokey, their story was that they were simulated rapes, but my feeling is that there were real rapes or surprise video shootings that showed a real rape that was later "model released" when the model found out it was them.

I saw a couple of clips... if it wasn't real, the girls should be working in hollywood, they put the pro actors to shame.

Rape, sexual sadism, and abuse. Sad.

That a jury in Texas didn't find waterports or scat to be obscene is pretty wild.

thats what i was kind of trying to say , but on looking at the waybackmachine version of this site one of the first video screen caps i see is of a dude with pantyhose on his head like a robber , boning some chick and then a forced blowjob type pic , so its obvious in some of the videos they are directly "simulating" rape. ( unless its roleplaying type thing )

hmm now im not sure what to think. if they were directly showing real rape videos , they should be locked up quick , but im unsure what to think if they are simulated.. i dont like it , but then again i dont like war news either but i watch it..

i think there is more than they are saying. 3 years is a bit harsh for that.

my old sig ? which one ?

They had to be simulated or else they would have been convicted for rape and distributing the real video which would have been found obscene and rightly so.


You always hear that rape is not a sexual crime but an act of violence. Hollywood show rapes all them time without the closeups. I don't see much difference.

Hollywood has huge muscle, don't think a judge will even try his luck with them

A girlfriend has a nipple pierced. This was done at a state licensed business.

If I would've recorded and sold the procedure I could go to jail?

What about the prime time make-over show with cosmetic surgery?

I'm confused ....... :Oh crap

thats kinda harash

I just wanted to mention that 2257 had nothing to do with this.

:2 cents: !!