english people help me out with 2257
 

Help please guys what does it mean for an average joe like me

I promote american sites, I use american hosting. wtf do i need to do?

I already have a text link to the 2257 info that the my sponer holds but with the new rules what does it mean?

sell all your sites, donate all your money to charity, and maybe, just maybe the Bush machine will let you slide

just move to a host outside U.S, then you can sleep well :thumbsup

Do you anticipate the US cops, comming over to England then and checking to see if you have the correct documentation? Unless they do and get a warrant, how will they know your not compliant.

If they do come over, get a search warrant for a law that isnt even a British law and infact against the EU laws of privacy, they then check your record keeping, do you anticipate that they will get an extradition order?

Is it only American laws you want to comply with, or do you plan to comply with laws in every other country in the world?

:helpme

change your hosting and dns info to say george w bush

The best thing to do is take a bath in acid. This will insulate you from the sky falling. :2 cents:

o shit.........

i wouldn't do anything jsut wait if they do start shitting on people move your servers to canada or Amsterdam and make more $$$'s than ever!

They will invade Britain and place all webmasters at Guantanamo, because sexual pretadors are the same as terrorists now.

No, follow your own laws and comply the policy of those companies you use in you business portfolio. :thumbsup

did something new happned lately with this 2257 shit? I see a lot of threads but no info

if you live in the uk even though your promoting us sites.You really dont have to worry, they are not going to send the FBI all the way to the UK to examine your records.

WHEW! Talk about a head buried in the sand....
Sorry, but, "whew"!

I would be very cautios, the US just arrested the CEO of a british stock exchange noted company when he entered the US. Be prepared to never visit the US if you don't follow their laws.

violate US laws and get arrested when visiting the US

Consult your local GFY lawyer.. always the brightest advice...

Uh... there's a huge difference between the CEO of one of the largest online gambling companies and Joe Schmo webmaster who run a 10K TGP from mommy's basement in the UK.

once you get arrested it makes no difference

guys you may well joke about this shit, but if an englishman breaks an american law. by english law the americans are allowed to come in and arrest us and then stand in a u.s. court of law. they do infact have juristiction in the uk.

it however does not hold the other way round which some say is unfair, but lets not bullshit about politics.

I hear what you all say though and I will move hosting after I use up my free months.

but I absolutley find it totally BOLLOCKS that there are scum out there that do promote child porn and these rules are being brought in coz of them, they are absolute fucking scum, and they are just not ruining children. FUCK THEM. I am usually neutral towards crime but these sick fuckers are affecting a huge industry. sorry for the rant.

welcome to the free world... LOL

Run for your life!!!!

edit- or maybe these rules are part of a larger initiative, i think mr soul said something about internet2 - the plan to make the internet like tv and no small timers involved. could be,,, could be slowly but surely

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :pimp

If you host in the US, then yes legally you do have to worry.

How would they know you are not complying you idiot

Your to stupid to run a website you should give up. Im not joking thats serious. How on earth would they know you are not keeping the records how they want and what makes you think any UK court would give them access to look when the law is against EU laws.

Less posting more learning

I just worry about the influence america has on the world especially on england. tony blairs nose is seriously brown at the moment.

and dont listen to what goodomains has to say...


hes an idiot :)

So you think the US police are going to try and inforce an American law that is against EU laws, in England and come to you place of business in the UK and try and make sure you are keeping docs in the way they want?

Seriously get a grip. If you are worried in any way, put up a 2257 page showing your address in England and let them send some police men.

:helpme

Arrested for what? Not keeping docs in the way they want? How would they know? Unless they invade the UK

Im glad of 2257, might stop some of you idiots working online. Get a clue, seriously :2 cents:

And still there is no answer to weather or not the Fbi are just going after content producers and or affiliates (average Joe) that advertises that content?????????????????.
:helpme

Scottybuzz, our laws have to take precedence and the data protection act which was revised to include data stored electronically would prohibit you ever divulging that info. If the FBI ever in their wisdom decided to send a taskforce over to East Anglia to check out your info they would need to go through the courts etc. Most unlikely.

I think Iran has pretty cool laws for porn...:winkwink:

thanks lee

also thanks gawdy

Correct :thumbsup

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=16231

It means the price you pay to be a porn pimp just went way up.

BTW... I'd move hosting out of the US. If you are not complying with US laws - that's kinda reasonable.

Other than that - fire ahead Scotty and earn.

Blame Canada

You started all the bullshit didn't you Spunky? Damned Canadians with religous agendas :winkwink:

:drinkup

yeh im not here to piss of america on purpose. hell if it takes me half an hour to be 2257 responsilbe why the hell not. even if im not american, but getting all the paperwork sorted out? not a fucking chance. does anyone know if webair hosts abroad in europe, i think they do. but can someone confirm it

They do, they have data centres in Amsterdam to I believe

If your based in the UK then your primary concern is the UK's Obscene Publications Act of 1959

No matter where in the world your sites are hosted, if you publish, ( as in upload ), files from a location inside the UK then the affore mentioned act does apply to you

If you publish, ( upload ), any adult material from within the UK then I strongly recommend you spend some time digesting it.

You are misinformed. Technically, Americans can arrest people here in England but this only happens when the English courts have agreed to extradite an individual to the US. The person will be legally arrested by an American law enforcement officer when the English authorities hand over custody, which usually happens in a prison, at a police station or at the airport prior to departure.

In your case these technicalities are irrelevant. An individual can only be extradited for a charge which has an equivalent in English law. Obvious examples would be murder, rape, theft etc. England has no equivalent law to 2257, so nobody could be extradited for non-compliance.

However, I personally would never risk travelling to or through the US. I think it's just a matter of time before some poor bastard webmaster gets himself arrested getting off a plane in the US.

Scottybuzz,

I also line in the UK, and to be on the safe side, I changed my host to an Amsterdam data centre.

Job done, can't be touched.

I live outside the US and I host outside the US.

Look out everyone outside the US.. The sky is falling...

I haven't seen so much shit here, but at Least Lee and one or two others have explained that we live in the UK.. We follow UK laws not US... Well not yet .. LOL

Sorry to say you could'nt be more wrong.

So to repeat myself;

If your based in the UK then your primary concern is the UK's Obscene Publications Act of 1959

No matter where in the world your sites are hosted, if you publish, ( as in upload ), files from a location inside the UK then the affore mentioned act does apply to you

If you publish, ( upload ), any adult material from within the UK then I strongly recommend you spend some time digesting it.

great one! :1orglaugh

Gawdy, I feel your pain, even though you explained it well tons of times, there are still new posts with the same stupid questions.

explain further ont this.

elaborate!!!!!!!