Business, Maturity, Lifes Regrets, and voices of reason.
 

Voices of reason have finally got to me.

My wife : " Why do you even play with someone like that, what do you have to prove ?"

" you have two kids, a grandaughter, a great house, and a good business, we live a comfortable life , what happens to all of that if you get arrested, you have prior assult charges already from a decade ago. Is florida a three strikes state ? is it worth the risk of that ? or what if you break your hand hitting the guy? Or what if you pull a muscle or hurt yourself , how will you complete the work you are doing in the two weeks you are in florida from a hospital or a jail cell, or injured? why bother ?"

" you are not a kid in high school anymore, or a bouncer in a bar, those days are behind you , you need to act your age"

" the guy already threatened to sue you,and have you arrested, posting on a message board that he wont does not legally bind him not to, you are in a trap, and what do you win ?"

" he probably has nothing, you have money, why take a chance like that with our livelyhood to prove to someone you still got it ?"

" does this help our life or set any examples for your kids to follow , fighting? You do not have to live in that life anymore now and havent for a long time , what is the gain from it all? pride ? Ego? for what ?

" is proving you are tough to a bunch of kids , really worth changing business meetings, and upsetting your partners to you ? "

" You know that a felony will kill the liquor license applications , don't you! "


My lawyer : " there is NO fool proof way for you not to get sued or arrested after the fight , nothing he says on a message board is legal defense of this if he changes his mind after the fact , and what we will he have pride wise to save, at that point HE LOST already, he has everything to gain by taking your money, and nothing to lose. Is giving a guy some bruises and saying you won a fight worth that ?"

" you have just acquired a business with multiple millions in assets, with several partners that you would put at risk as well"

" you Manage a program worth over a million and a half dollars what happens if you are not there to continue because you are in jail or worst, what if he wins and you get hurt "

" as your personal attorney I adamantly advise you to not participate in this "

" as your business attorney I must demand that you not participate in this or you risk all partners involved as it is a legal business conference and can be inferred that you are there on company time therfore the company can be held liable for your actions while attending the conference"

" You absolutly can be charged with assult among many other things after the fact, no matter how willing the other participant was or claims to have been "

" why would you jeapordize all that you are building and all you have, just to prove a childish point? this is not the businessman I deal with normally"



My Partners or business associates:


" What the fuck is wrong with you ? you can not put us at risk like that ?"

" why do you waste your talents on idiots like that ? why even post on a board anymore or care what they think, we have too much work to do"

" you have business meetings all day everyday for entire time down there , do you plan to skip those business meetings for a fight ?"

" We have a very succesful business and those morons that taunt you are nothing but scammers and thiefs from an era ago that caused great harm to the adult web industry and adult business as a whole by their actions what makes you think their lacky has any more morals or honor than them?, some of them are not even allowed in the country due to their law violations, why do you care what they say or think ?"

" Since our lawyer called me and told me of your intentions I must ask you why you would risk the multiple business and multiple millions of dollars in assest we have now, to prove a point of how tough you are, to someone that wont even be around in another year "

"What do we gain if you win ? your ego and pride ? proof to a bunch of drama queens that you are still a tough fighter ? what do we risk for that ? and why ?"


" are you the same 40 yr old man that just did a 2 million dollar acquisition for us ? or did an alien abduct him and give us a high school jock back instead ?"

" who gives a fuck what a bunch of board whores call you or say, we are doing business they are still wanting to do business and wishing for a dream to come true , we own or control over 5 million in assets you need to use your head not your heart."

" it is time we hire someone to do the boards and get you off of them, this is ridiculous, you are a brilliant guy and a sharp businessman they have no idea and you have nothing to prove to a bunch of kids."

" you are schedualed to be on the road and doing business or in meetings that we stand to make millions of dollars on, 14 times in the next 18 months , what happens if you are in jail or we are in litigation ? even if we win the litigation we still have to pay for it and go through it , no matter what a known spammer and scammer and thief says in his word of honor on a message board"


" you will prove more worth to more people by showing maturity, and continuing to grow our business rather than the few that will be glad because you showed them you can fight, if that is what impresses them then they are not very sharp businessmen either and we lose nothing from them. The businessmen care what you make them in their wallets not who you can beat up at a show !"

" grow the fuck up, and quit pissing with those board people and just go do what you been doing outside of the boards that has gotten us all the things we have now "

" why waste your time proving to small timers that want drama and entertainment that you can beat someone up, how do you think that makes us look to REAL business people with actual money and business to do ? do you think they give a shit if you can fight or not ?

" Look at the boards this thing has turned into a circus people wanting to film it and take pics, do you really think it would be possible to stop people from finding out about it, or asking questions once it was over ? "

" You know that if you get a felony our club is gone , and you will never get a license in any state for one "


So in interest of my Business,My partners wishes and thoughtful insight into my actions, and My families wishes ( namely my wife ) I must allow maturity to prevail and pass on any kind of fighting.

I reget three things, 1.) that I put my Partners and family through this conversation and humility with my actions.

2.) That we live in a world were you grow up a fighter from the street and have to live like a lawyer and a banker once you become succeful if you wish to keep it . I think I might have been born a century to early LOL

3.) that I am not 20 now instead of 40 so it is all not excused as easily when you act like a fool and let emotions take over your actions.


StuartD you were right in saying I need to remember why I did not want to do this anymore. I messed up by allowing a bunch of idiots to bring me to that level ( again).

I know who I am and what my skills are and when to use them out of necassity, I really do not care if someone thinks I am tough or not I have spent a big part of my life proving that and it led to NOTHING good LOL other than to make me feel better about beating up bullies when they are trying to keep the underdog down.

So I guess flame away idiots call me your worst or start a million threads saying I am scared or do what you want as I will not be entertaining you anymore . names have never hurt me and if you are calling me names chances are we would not have done any business anyway, so your thoughts of me mean nothing .

For the serious business people, I apologize I acted like an ass, and as many of you that do business with me know I am not an ass in person, so why I act like a child and an ass here I do not know . This is a serious statement from me, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, ( I have said that when I apologized for starting shit with Bradshaw for no reason, and I have stuck to that, even when he calls me names or trys to put me down in threads of mine about business) I was wrong then, I am wrong now, and only I can fix it or change it

Now for the business part, we are doing a lot of growth and have a lot of things to talk to business people about, we have traffic,we have content , we have propietary software , we have paysites, we have our own money so lets do some business together that is mutually benificial and makes us all some more money! I do have very smart and capable Business partners,at this internet game. As well as a terrific staff of people willing to help you anyway they can. We are Partners with two of the best content producers ever in the history of the adult industry as well. I will move on to doing what I do best and working in person with people and facilitating our growth that way. The people we do business with know what I do and that is all that matters to us, is our bottom line. We use our special talents collectivly to get us where we want to be .( it takes a great TEAM, to win a championship, not any individuals)


Joe Jekel

Good on you man. I'm glad to see this.

Now get back to doing what really matters :thumbsup

Keep putting one foot in front of the other. You'll get there!

That was a long one!

That was a really nice read, Thanks!

Great doing business with you, Joe. :thumbsup Really Great!

Humility is a fantastic quality, Joe, glad to see that you made the wise decision.

Besides, it's better to be a lover than a fighter! :)

Brad

Don't know what this is about so not trying to offend the other party or anything.

Nothing like a good woman to make the VOICE OF REASON talk to you loud and clear. :thumbsup I think she will be heard by a few people reading the thread too. Don't waste your time argueing - if the guy is bigger and stronger so be it.

I always tell my kids that the moment they resort to using their hands, screaming, manipulating with tears or destructing - they've already lost the battle because they aren't using their brain to either get out of the situation or make their point. :2 cents:

the voice of reason - finally...

good read, joe - don't mind the flaming

see you at the bar :winkwink:

very reasonable

Wow, alienq and joesho coming to their senses in the same day, a true miracle. Just sad it took so long for either of them to wisen up.

a journey of a 1000 miles.................

So does this "clear vision" also include your 3+ years of whining over every person with more X (x = anything) than you? :helpme

That is also 3 years of calling people scamming old timers (I see you still have a problem with that in the post you just made)... how about your 3+ years of creating the illusion that there is a "old timers" vs. "newbies" conflict... shall I dig up your posts to help your memory? :helpme

Now I do not enjoy kicking on a man lying down - but stop this bloody whining! You made your own bed!

Maybe you would have gotten some business from me - instead you used 3+ years insulting me, and everyone else who were in the business before you...

If this is how you, your partners, and business associates think:

Then I pity every single one of you... You lack the very professionalism that you are saying we are missing.

this is the second time i recall you "coming to your senses". do not swear off pissing on gfy and then do it over and over. it is annoying. anthony would have been the one with the most risk imho. he would have slaughtered you and been left with your blood on him. you might have ruined his clothes with all that blood.

In your case you should say:

Keep trying one password after the other. You'll get the access!



So who of you was it, that did the dirty work with the posting?

everyone is entightled to their opinions in life.

And you are right about the pissing part, I was weak and allowed myself to be brought down into it by people not even in the business anymore and it was stupid and childish of me. Sorry if clarity annoys you. But glad to know that you follow my pissing as I watched yours as well, you are quite entertaining in your own right .

Best of wishes to you. again sorry to of offended or annoyed you so much.

hot damn, this is some shit

i say we do a sushi eating contest

first good idea today :thumbsup

so, does this mean you will stop with the annoying "old timers" shit on the boards every chance you get? that was the most annoying part of it all...LOL

ya fuck that shit...it is just for board stuff anyway

save your best for when it is needed like family

I'm taking up violin lessons.

Joe,

I am glad you came to your senses, but let's face it.

You threatened me with violence.

I told you "Attack me, and you will go to jail".

I gave you a "LEGAL WAY TO FIGHT IN THE RING" you TURNED IT DOWN.

You spent the past 2 days saying you would kick my ass.

I again told you I WOULD FIGHT YOU LEGALLY MMA RULES.

You called me a pussy.

i called your bluff, I'll fight anywhere, anytime.

Now, after MONTHS of you threatening to kick my ass, your LAWYER, WIFE, and PARTNERS tell you not to fight?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah, good one Joe.

A coward dies a million times and all that... eh?

I don't see MMA as immature really. It is a sport, albeit rough, but a sport.

So lets not everyone get carried away and make Anthony out to be some old senseless brute.

However, Joe, if you feel you are doing the right thing then that is the best thing to do.

I still may beat someone up at Internext if I can find someone that will not punch back (I really don't want to get hit).


Personal thing.

hmm a legal fight with some gloves and shit...aint that bad :)

So your saying beat the fuck out of loved ones?:helpme

all that over some board drama? :1orglaugh

"I still may beat someone up at Internext if I can find someone that will not punch back (I really don't want to get hit)."
We're going to have to take your crutches away:1orglaugh

Joe is doing the intelligent and mature thing, and Anthony wasn't wrong in making the fight happen in a certain way either. That's what you're taught to do in BJJ, confront the challenge and trust your training to take you through. It's not a thug thing.

If you're not trained, you shouldn't be fighting once you're above a certain age. The potential for very serious injury is enormous.

If it comes down to it, I will throw shoes.

This is funny on so many levels... haha

oh fuck i just spit my fucking drink out :1orglaugh

you go girl

Good stuff. :thumbsup

Joesho if you think this is going to 'improve your image' you are likely sorely mistaken.

It might be worded all fancy, but candy coating as thick as you laid it on still doesn't change the FACT which we all knew was bound to happen eventually, which is you backed out of the fight that YOU INITIATED. Lets especially not forget that little tidbit.

Maybe if you had stood up like a man and admitted ON YOUR OWN that you got yourself into a situation you knew you couldn't handle, and accepted responsibility for your part in it, then my opinion might be different. For now, all that post says is that you're still a pussy, with a bunch of willing scapegoats. Your wife, your boss, and your lawyers all had to work to show you that you had gotten in too deep, because you didn't have the balls to admit it yourself? Pathetic.

I'm sure even the most skeptical person can read his post and see that he's not making this decision with any concern of what you or anyone else will think.

Glad to hear his handlers got him under control then, because he's sure seemed to care about making himself look like "the man" for the last couple months with his challenges to fight Anthony, simply because he can't keep on par with him mentally.

Hopefully his wife, lawyers & business associates keep him on a tighter leash, and prevent him from repeatedly making a fool of himself.

whats funny is the entire deal is still a put down

"hell sue you"

"he dont have any $"

"he dont have anything"

"he wont be around another year"

and ofcourse 2 thumbs up to joe about the multiBILLIONS of dollars him and his are in control of......

earlmillercash = 1.5 million dollars......only got 1 thing to say about that


booohoohahaha

You read my mind...

that was an interesting read. long one,though

Joe , very wise decision.

Well done.

But not one of your advisors seem to have considered the fact that you might well have got your ass handed to you.

Good advisors should really consider all outcomes.

Now lest we forget.

Joe , you were the one that started all this shit.

Also I believe in the past you swore off pissing with people on chat boards , I believe that one lasted about 2 days.

So if you come back pissing and threatening "old timers" it would appear , frankly, that you are a space cadet.

Also ...now you/your partners/ whatever claim you control 5 mils..it was 25 mils two weeks ago. Has the stock market taken a turn for the worse?

Good post Nick, unfortunately will be on deaf ears, as always.

Joe's self serving post about his cowardice builds him up, he is a mental midget, and now a public blowhard.

It should be a lesson on how Keyboard Warriors get SELF OWNED.

Bullies are cowards at heart.

Why not find someone to fuck at Internext instead? Make it someone that will fuck and suck back.

Maybe we could have an old fashioned movie bar fight at internext! Or, perhaps we could unite and rule the world. It's a toss up. ;)

a bump for better business sense.

Now You're talkin:love2suck :kisskiss :wetkiss :eatme :liebe028: :hitit :love2suck

interesting story

smart move Joe a fight would have been a waste of your time keep growing your biz and prosper

thats a win by default:thumbsup

So in your definition, the person who threatens to beat on someone from a messageboard is an idiot and not a businessman?

Great, then we are in agreement Joe is an idiot, and a shit businessman.

I know little to nothing about this so take this for what it is worth.
I grew up in the projects and everything was decided with violence.
In the end those people are still there, and my wife and I lead a nice life elsewhere. So a good decision to not fight this out.
HOWEVER.....that has to be the worst apology I have ever heard it seemed to me to be one long brag about yourself.
How many times to you manage to bring your net worth and dollar amounts in to an apology.
just my two cents from a neutral party