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Hawkeye 07-17-2006 04:01 PM

Facts about "Israel" before the Jews moved in.
 
There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

xNetworx 07-17-2006 04:03 PM

Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, give them a tiny place to settle.

Linguist 07-17-2006 04:04 PM

I'm rather neutral on the whole issue, but it was Britain who stole their land and not jews. Jews just settled there after whining to the powers that be, but Britain was the one who stole it originally.

xNetworx 07-17-2006 04:06 PM

I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. Israel is a country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms yet they are made out to be terrorists by these cock-clowns on here.

MaddCaz 07-17-2006 04:08 PM

damn Israjews!!!!

Sly 07-17-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn
I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. A country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms.

I'm always curious why these people aren't turning over their home to the Native Americans. Hell, white man raped and slaughtered the Natives out of existence. Most of us would still be living in Europe.

jayeff 07-17-2006 04:10 PM

Suggestion: read some history. Palestine was created as a British mandate after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the first world war. Unlike the other mandates, Palestine did not become an independent state because the British government had stated its desire to create a homeland for the Jews.

Large-scale immigration, primarily from Russia and Eastern Europe began in the 1920's and increased during the 1930's during Hitler's rise to power. It had created enough pressure to result in violence on both sides, even before WW2 began.

Post-war Zionism certainly made matters worse, but was not the starting point. And if you want to assign blame for what developed there, don't leave the British (or later the US) out of the equation.

xNetworx 07-17-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
I'm always curious why these people aren't turning over their home to the Native Americans. Hell, white man raped and slaughtered the Natives out of existence. Most of us would still be living in Europe.

Ding Ding Ding

KingK7 07-17-2006 04:11 PM

Pretty much like the US before "civilized" people came, no...?

Penthouse Tony 07-17-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

Why do you include transjordan in your stats?

Hawkeye 07-17-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn
Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited.

There were millions of Arabs already living there.

Other than that, great point!

Hawkeye 07-17-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
Suggestion: read some history. Palestine was created as a British mandate after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the first world war. Unlike the other mandates, Palestine did not become an independent state because the British government had stated its desire to create a homeland for the Jews.

Large-scale immigration, primarily from Russia and Eastern Europe began in the 1920's and increased during the 1930's during Hitler's rise to power. It had created enough pressure to result in violence on both sides, even before WW2 began.

In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

jayeff 07-17-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

History books for you too I'm afraid. A fund was established in 1901 to buy Palestinian land for Jewish settlers. AFAIK no arab land was forcibly occupied until the 1948 war.

viva celebs 07-17-2006 04:34 PM

don't hate the Brits for taking arab land and then giving it to the jews.

taking land was what we were good at. most native people loved us for taking their land and adored us even more for giving it to another group after we were done with it. some people just don't appreciate our hard work.

bawdy 07-17-2006 04:37 PM

The Jews were there before the Roman Empire started kicking them out... so in my book they have as much right to be in that area as any other... particularly the musilms that came along with the Byzantine Empire

Paul Waters 07-17-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
History books for you too I'm afraid. A fund was established in 1901 to buy Palestinian land for Jewish settlers. AFAIK no arab land was forcibly occupied until the 1948 war.

Hmmm

Who established this fund?

Would the Palestinian land be purchased from Britain?

Is it ironic that one of the major reasons Isreal won in 1948 was its black market purchase of three B 17s, which would qualify as weapons of mass destruction back then?

FetishTom 07-17-2006 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

Still looking for some 'facts' - ok lets all come clean if you hate jews and want them dead just say so and stop fucking around with 'facts' from the LadyBird book of world history for the under fives (Arab language version)

Personally as a non jew I find it amusing that the Arabs kept on invading Israel and got their arses kicked repeatedly and have been whining about it ever since. In short 90% of the fucking problems the Arab world seems to have with Israel are self inflicted.

The rest is just bollocks - as is jew hating dessed up as a fucking history lesson.:321GFY

Hollywood Horwitz 07-17-2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

who the fuck hates jews in the US? jews dominate the music and movie industry and everyone loves them except you and a handful of other ignorant anti-semitic people.

side note, chicks love jews!

UtahSaints 07-17-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn
Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, give them a tiny place to settle.

what a logic...
:helpme

jayeff 07-17-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Waters
Would the Palestinian land be purchased from Britain?

No. From (often absentee) arab landowners.

Just to be clear, as I have commented before, I have supported the Palestinians for many years. I was writing newspaper articles to that end, more than 30 years ago. The reason I'm responding to your posts is because it doesn't advance any cause to have arguments made which are full of basic errors and therefore easily pulled apart. Nor are what, I suspect may be racially motivated comments, likely to do anything except alienate people.

Penthouse Tony 07-17-2006 05:56 PM

Still wondering why a thread entitled 'Facts about "Israel" before the Jews moved in.' would include TransJordan in the stats when non of TransJordan became part of Israel and none of it is in dispute.

MetaMan 07-17-2006 06:01 PM

all muslims and arabs in the middle east are terrorists, fuck them, let the jews live in peace, if we had no muslims or arabs the world would be alot better of a place.

how the fuck do you sympasize with a group of people that want you dead? and want the world to believe in their religion or you should die? enough with this religion of peace bullshit, the only lebanese guy i know who is half decent is a christian.

they are pieces of shit, who cares about them? to much time of the day is spent of the world think about the people living in the shit hole that they belong in.

Penthouse Tony 07-17-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

No one was forced to leave. Well accept for these guys.

http://www.jimena.org/

crowkid 07-17-2006 06:18 PM

fucking terrorist-appeasing-and-cocksucking hippies
http://people.csail.mit.edu/manoli/g...co/hippies.jpg

im not Jewish, but long live Israel, and may the death-worshippers in the surrounding arab states be destroyed once and for all, no matter what.
http://www.theweekmagazine.com/weeki...ay_weapons.jpg

stickyfingerz 07-17-2006 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn
I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. Israel is a country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms yet they are made out to be terrorists by these cock-clowns on here.

Dead on. Did we cross paths in Vegas PP?

sfera 07-17-2006 06:49 PM

im for isreal.


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