Cheater Alert........ Dialers!!!!!!!!
 

As you all know my husband and I BOTH worked for DialerHeaven, we were also both relieved of our duties weeks ago......... BUT for some reason the emails for support were still coming to him we found out this morning......

Seems this guy here has intercepted the support emails and I think the following will pretty much speak for itself........ you should all be very careful of this, this is not only illegal hacking, which is not my concern but the concern of our Former Employers, but it is a concern to ME as in I don't want anyone else being cheated by someone else.............


----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXX XXXXXXXX
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:42 AM
Subject: dialler reseller


Hi,
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX

thanks for the reply. I am not on ICQ.

I have my own server for web site hosting, and I have already obtained the
domain names for my clients. These have been in operation for some months.

Please instruct me how I go about signing everyone up for a dialler, so that
I receive the payments for distribution in Sterling.

Can you also tell me the rates, please, including the rate for the USA,
which is not on your website, and although it says "see link above", I can
find nothing regarding this.

Your urgent help would be appreciated. I am waiting to sign up diallers.

thanks
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX


----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]
To: "XXXXXX XXXXXXXX
Sent: 06 June 2002 08:30
Subject: Re: diallers



Hello,

Yes you can do this. We can also help you about hosting your sites. We
currently do this service for some of our clients. We host their sites and
arrange domainnames.

For further questions and details contact me via ICQ 891286

Regards.

Quoting XXXXXX XXXXXXXX

Hi,
I am a webmaster with about 40 clients.

I would like to know if I can sign up my webmasters for a dialler with
you, and be able to receive payment for these in dollars, so that I can
pay my clients in Sterling.

They will each need a separate dialler, which I will sign them up for,
and I host and operate their sites from my own server.

I guess this is the same as being a reseller. Can I do this?

thankyou
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX


I have deleted the clients name as they are innocent in this......... but as you can see, someone is intercepting emails, and if they will do this, they will stop at nothing. You guys have all been thru enough and in MY opinion don't need anymore.

Thanks,
Tam

Registrant:
Vector Force Inc
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6
CA


Domain Name: DIALERHEAVEN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Force Inc, Vector [email protected]
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta, T3G-4K6
CA
---------------------------------

Intercepting it Tam? Looks more like there was a email redirect command if the mails went to one of your pther addies. But vector would have that right to remove that as soon as you guys were terminated since the dialerheaven is their domain.

Easier to do since its on their own boxes.

That was the old mans thought tho when he looked at this. But this info might give you a starting point at least. :thumbsup

Ok and YOUR point is? Did you not read what I said?
The emails are still coming to him and this guy here:

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: "XXXX XXXX"
Sent: 06 June 2002 08:30
Subject: Re: diallers
Hello,

Yes you can do this. We can also help you about hosting your sites. We
currently do this service for some of our clients. We host their sites and
arrange domainnames.

For further questions and details contact me via ICQ 891286

Regards.

With the icq of 891286 is catching them somewhere and responding to them trying to get them to use THEIR dialer......... DUH!!!!!!

Ok now when this person asking about dialers is replying to said CHEATER, they are coming back to my husbands computer.........

Simply saying, the cheater is catching the incoming somehow, but when someone hits reply to reply to said cheater, they are coming back to MY husband............

And if you read FURTHER, the emails haven't been redirected somewhere else by the owner of DialerHeaven, they are still coming to My husband........... I have busted him out for cheating and stealing a couple of other times............ so this is nothing new, just didn't want anyone getting ripped again is all. I am fully aware of who owns DialerHeaven, and this character has NEVER had one thing to do with DialerHeaven.

I dont understand any of it....

Not to mentiopn why let out your secret, shit id endure months of laughjing by myself at others security lapse.

tam - shut the fuck up :BangBang:

Registrant:
KotuSex Ltd.
westplein 21
Rotterdam, Rotterdam 3132 ld
NL

Domain Name: KOTUSEX.COM

Administrative Contact:
KotuSex, KotuAdam [email protected]
westplein 21
Rotterdam, Rotterdam, 3132 ld
NL
0031629223529

Technical Contact:
KotuSex, KotuAdam [email protected]
westplein 21
Rotterdam, Rotterdam, 3132 ld
NL
0031629223529

Billing Contact:
KotuSex, KotuAdam [email protected]
westplein 21
Rotterdam, Rotterdam, 3132 ld
NL
0031629223529


Registration Service Provider:
Intercosmos Media Group Inc. dba directNIC.com, [email protected]
504 679 5173
http://www.directnic.com


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 23-Mar-2002.
Record expires on 31-Mar-2004.
Record Created on 31-Mar-2000.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KOTUADAM.COM 216.40.251.108
NS2.KOTUADAM.COM 216.40.251.109

Hmmm guess *I* didn't very well either. Just poped in for a few mins in between cleaning up stprm damage. Sorry!

It would appear that YOUR the one who shouldn't be reading the e-mails at this point.

You worked for a company, were fired, and continue to get to THEIR e-mails?
how is the company cheating?
Your post is confusing and no one understands, but don't get mad Tam.
Just relax

I'd better pop some popcorn, this is gonna get good :)

Maybe I am not explaining it right, I didn't want these emails and neither did he........ we were cleaning his old accounts out and the emails were in there when he opened it up (Outlook checks the mails when you open the accounts) ........ so this character here is intercepting them and they found their way back in my husbands mailbox........... no he doesn't want these emails and we have deleted them from OUR computers........ the COMPANY we worked for hasn't redirected them to someone else yet, this is not OUR fault.........

MY problem is also not their breech in their security, that is not my concern anymore............

MY problem is that I don't want anyone else screwed over because someone is hacking other people's emails to get their business emails........... I am concerned about the MISLEAD webmasters, I could actually care less about what emails are going to who or the security in the company I worked for........

I know what I am trying to say, but apparently I am not explaining it very well..............

The NEXT emails he intercepts just MAY be yours........ and YOU may be the ones loosing clients because of it......... I know Dialerheaven closed down, yadda yadda yadda............ but I still hate seeing people get screwed because some lame ass is hacking into other peoples emails, I don't care who they are or anything else......... cheating is cheating and I hate it.

codecrawler.... THANK YOU!!

That is the guy hacking the emails....... I know him and have caught him stealing and cheating MANY other webmasters in the past......... and he has NO affiliation with any of the ones he has cheated, he just takes whatever he wants.........

pretend to be a client then make sure he interecepts you and innocently message him on icq find out his dialer and SUE

Hmm.. I understood it quite well... She didn't say the company was cheating..
Somebody is intercepting emails meant for the company and replying as though he is with the company, but is with a different outfit.

with the worldcup I've been up all night and about to sleep soon. Not as sharp lately. I understand very well the situation and the hacker needs to be shutdown. Follow up the advise of pretending to be a client and see what the hacker does. At some point he will take you to his/her service and you can nail'em.

THANK YOU....... God, I know I am tired too, but I wasn't sure exactly how I was being so misunderstood, sometimes when *I* know what I am trying to say, I just assume everyone else does too........ LMAO

Sorry for the confusion, I just didn't want anyone else ripped off........ my former employer was the last of my concerns on this one, it was the innocents I was worried about. LOL

That's not the weirdo from Turkey or the like that always wants to ransom shit back is it?

I am not sure about any ransom thing, he never asked me for any ransom when he stole my shit, I gave him 24 hours or I would fuck him over....... and he took it down..... rotfl

But he is from Turkey and could quite possibly be the same person. I know he sure as all hell didn't realize I would blast his ass in public the last time I caught him stealing shit.