What percentage of Gallery Submitters...
 

What percentage of Gallery Submitters do more than $ 6K a month (tax free).

I know the average submitter do between 2K and 4K a month.

And I think maybe only 10% of the total amount of submitters do more than 6K.

It would be interesting to know. We submitters work all day long to make cents and can't never been abroad, while program owners travel all year long with their fucking notebooks, fuck girls all year long around the world and they earn $ 50K easily per month... Program owners, work "with luck" only 2 or 3 hours a day. Submitters are behind a computer 10 hours a day and they have neck and back pain.

While program owners get their back and neck massaged by a Japanese babe in a jakuzzi, and they check in his notebook how his statsremote moves like a clock. :)

I think it's time to turn into program owner.

Are we submitters some kind of slave?

"I know the average submitter do between 2K and 4K a month"

I would be impressed if 10% of GFYers did that.

Wow, you're a fucking idiot.

You should definitly get out of this industry ... or shoot yourself for beeing so stupid and not trying to see outside of the box.

6k/month for gallery submitting would be AWESOME... I'd like to know which ones are making that kinda money and how

Teach me, I am all ears...

Otherwise shut your fuck up, you fucking asshole. :mad:

Explain me. Come on.

Sir "Program Owner." :)

I believe you may in fact be the definition of "clueless".

well, I know some guys submitting more than 4 galleries every day. :)

That is all you have to say?

If you don't have arguments to say why you think so, you can't keep the discussion going, and the thread ends in my statement. :)

there is no money in porn

ah, one important thing to say , is that with "2 or 3 hours" I mean 2 or 3 hours of real working, sitting your ass in chair and working.

I am not including chat, posting on GFY, seeing jokes online, booking your next airplane tickets to some exotic country, talkign on phone, etc...

After you quit all this, you probably have 2 or 3 hours of real working.

Think twice about it. :upsidedow

there is no money in gallery submitting

And where is the money? :Oh crap

Besides SEO and Blogs, which sounds like the obvious answers. :winkwink:

thats a good question...

Anyone still spending more than 2 hours a day submitting now a days with all the tools and partner accounts available needs to take a long hard look at his or her system of doing things. :2 cents:

The vast majority of program owners work a lot harder than submitters. Your perception of the industry is distorted.

If I started again I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY know I could make 6k a month submitting galleries. You just have to be diligent, patient and buy the right passes and minimalize your costs as much as possible.

Some people will just read my reply here and go "well there's DH trying to sell more submitpasses" but honestly I know I could do it.

DH

quite a lot of assumptions, theres money in partner accounts

How about you provide some arguments as to why you believe "program owners" are some demi-gods born with a platinum spoon up their ass?

It takes a hell of a lot of money to start up a program and to keep it going. And it takes a hell of a lot of work to make a hell of a lot money.

Anybody can be a program owner. It's not like people like Dee or Marc De won their programs in some magical lottery.

not all program owners are like that.. some work more than you do! ;-)

:2 cents: !!

Is $6k/mo really that hard to make from submitting galleries?

You have to put in the time initially into anything that you do, and if you really think program owners just sit on their ass all day doing nothing you are sadly mistaken

I see the drinking hardest challenge take 30 days and post your results. That would interesting

I do up to 10 galleries per day and it only takes 3 hours max.
Dude buy a clue , I work alot less than any programe owners I know.
The smart guys will allways do well. You can still do 10k a month from galleries if you know how.

:winkwink:

I started in oct 2005 and easily push 5500 a month from submitting, it just seems to keep growing..

And thats only submitting 4 gals daily.. sometimes more.. sometimes less..

apply for a job at google :)

I applaud anyone who works 10 hours a day or more, trying to improve their business.

I know I do that and more. :thumbsup

seriously

Gone, my boss works for about 12-15 hours every day right now the past couple of weeks.. I can't keep up :S oh well..


did I mention he's a program owner..

I submit 2 gals a day MAX.... And make more than 6k a month. It's possible.

:thumbsup:winkwink:

Nothing is free in this world, not even for program owners :)

I am a failed gallery submitter :(

The easy answer, yes you are a slave...

But look around... Some how MANY gallery submitters became program owners, large tgp/mgp owners or some other venue to their millions...

So the hard answer is that you won't just get it here in the adult arena. You must have control over yourself and spend less than you make in the beginning so you can save what is needed to eventually become a player...

What you really should be asking is how many people make 6 - 12K but act like they make a million a year? Why do they do this? Because they want to be cool before they ARE cool.

:1orglaugh so true :thumbsup

Never mind program owners, just focus on your own thing, work hard, work smart and there's no limit to the amount you can make.

Yes, you are a slave.

You have two options... you can make shoes & shirts, or make galleries. Up to you. We own you either way.

I strongly belive that everybody on the world is a slave one way or another, there are just different types/degrees of slavery.

As for the original thread, your idea about program owners is WAY WAY flawed, unless the program owner hires somebody to run the program for them, then..:thumbsup

Conclusion: become a program owner....

Turn into program owner and then you can compare! Let us know your which one work best for you! :)

Haha I submitted like 6 mgp/tgp galleries a day back in the old days, I would literally submit until i fell asleep on my keyboard. Those days are over my friend as much fun as they were LOL!

I can make 6k alot easier these days than submitting galleries but at least if times got tough I know where I could turn to make the money.

DH

It would seem proper that a program OWNER should get more money than a submitter, in that he is actually investing a decent portion of his own money and has much higher overhead to worry about.

Higher risk/higher returns as a program owner I assume.

No it isn't, you can make a lot more submitting galleries.. and you really don't need 10 hours a day for it.. lol

everybody can make 6k, jus buy enough spots and partnerpasses :thumbsup

seriously buying passes and spots is nowadays making 80% of your money. Free submit is hard work, low traffic, bad conversions