Expired domains?
 

i tried buying a domain and when i tried buying it it says its not available, but the experation date says april 26th, is there a period until it goes back up for sale if they dont renew it?

it varies by registrar

... what´s the domain name ... I´ll take a look and help you out ...

http://www.snapnames.com/

If it's already snapped, forget about it.

opensrs waits 40 days after expiry date before sending the request to the master registry to be deleted. netsol has "no clue" when their domains delete. funny, how they're also verisign, who maintains the master registry.

Here's an explanation of the Delete Cycle from Snapnames.

http://www.snapnames.com/deleteprocess.html

There are some signs to look for, and some tips on how to catch the names. I won't post them but you can ICQ me if there's a certain name you're looking for and I'll help you find some ways to get it.

the problem is that network solutions are a bunch of fuckheads who have no clue

i tried to register a domain which had expired in November, 2001. I called them and said, its been expred for 6 months now, whats the deal? they said "it might have an issue surrounding it or there might be a controversy which is blocking release". My response was, ok, then what is the exact precise issue blocking release. Sorry, they said, we cannot tell you because you did not register it. I said to the lady "lady, what the fuck are you, stupid? do you think I want to go remind the guy that the cool name is already expired so that he can call you and spend a fucking 1/2 hour on hold in order to hear your nonsense?" she gave me the same fucking answer, like a stupid robot, and refused to let me speak to her superior.

I snap named the name, and am still waiting. Snap names sent me a email telling me that the name was officially changed to "expired status", so I continue to wait.

i'd bet the more you call netsol askin about a domain, the longer they hold on to it, til the right dollar amount comes their way. i wouldn't be surprised if they track whois requests similarly.

Snapnames is a joke. I've registered a handful of domains that were "snapped". Its just about knowing when they'll release the names and being there at the right time. There is an exact hour that they do it everyday.

Should be just a few weeks now, that's a sign that it's on the way out of their system.

seems like that shit takes forever

hehe cool

SnapNames is the worst out there!

lets say i have a program that grabs names and i have say 20 names...and Snap Has 10000 names who do you think will get the name quicker?

SnapNames will get it quicker.

If you have to drive down a dirt road, but SnapNames can drive down a dozen super highways.. who is going to get there faster ?

Well i wouldnt say snapnames is a joke, tho it is true that its a matter of timing. Domains are released to the public 2 times daily at specific times. However, going by a diagram on a site like snapnames (whose existence requires they are ahead of everyone else on as many names as possible) is most likely NOT a good way to guage things as it seems to me that it would be more than a little biased (which it is). They have tried to generalize the cycle of expired names, which they cant do, due to each registrar having its own way of doing things.

I will mention that fallendomains's AutoReg system checks names that members have added to the system every 5 minutes during a 1 hour window twice a day =)

actually its all a matter of timing. If you know the times the names drop from the master registry daily you can compete with snapnames easily. Their system is no better or worse than anyone elses, except as someone said, they have a few million names to check thru daily in 2 specific timeframe windows....

There are more than 2 times per day that you can pickup domain names. This is a common mistake most relative newbie dropcatchers believe. I've been doing this a long time and I know from experience many other variables to consider that aren't being taken into account.

Snapnames does admit the individual registrars variances too, and that its cycle is the usual process and not the only cycle.

Not true. Knowing the times has no bearing on comparing one dropcatcher to another. Its about the number of connections / bandwidth dedicated to catching names at droptimes. Their system is better in that aspect alone, having over a dozen other registrar connections attempting to register names. The odds are in their favor.

Brujah. Shhhh. :)

Think waiting 6 months for a domain to expire off netsol is bad?

Check this: Record expires on 14-Jan-2000.

Wtf? Still fucking won't release the fucker. I refuse to pay $35 to them just so I can turn around and pay the transfer fee over to bulkregister ($12, but still.. principle damnit.)

-Phil

Actually a few things here.

first fallendomains was originally started over a year before you even thought of doing expireds, that can be verified by simply asking Gord at domainnamesystems when we first opened fallendomains. So you really have not been doing this very long at all.

secondly, I have access to the TLD zone files, do you? Obviously not, or you wouldnt have made such a ridiculous comment as "There are more than 2 times per day that you can pickup domain names". There are exactly 2 times you can download the updated TLD zone files per day.

Third, as snapnames runs from a single machine, as do many others of us doing the same thing, and we all use multi-threaded forking for the collection of names, they are NO better or faster than us. They would be faster than someone who does not have access to the zone files of course. You maybe?

Knowing the times has everything to do with it. number of connections? dedicated bandwidth? what the fuck does that have to do with downloading the zone files and scanning thru them? Nothing. Maybe if they had a server farm going on the same task, yeh. They dont. Snapnames is a single machine on a similar upstream connect, the same as many of us have. They run a tight program, yes. Are they faster? sometimes. Its just a matter of timing.

I've been doing it for myself a long time, not for others. You made a few typical newbie comments in this the other paragraphs that I'm not going to point out. :thumbsup

More proof that you don't know what you're talking about.

actually it just shows me that I was correct. You do not have zone file access. You are merely sponging off those of us that do :1orglaugh

and that you have no idea what the real deal is.

The fact is Brujah, that you do not have zone file access, therefore you must rely on others that do to get your names. Now, these sites that you sponge off have systems for scanning the zone files for names it finds expired, this takes some time, especially if they have low fork settings being used, so yes, they pop the names out more than twice a day as fast as "their" scripts can locate them. The zone files are updated twice a day. our system takes approx 1 hour + or - to process them all, so we do updates accordingly. We are one of the faster system doing it. When you grow up and actually get access and do things yourself, THEN you come to me with bullshit. Until then, you are a joke to me.

Note that this only pertains to standard listings, not yahoo or dmoz listings, which i believe you actually do spider for yourself.

Why don't you stop making so many incorrect assumptions ? You have no idea how incredibly stupid they make you look to people who really know how things work.

The more "real-time" sources you claim and the more you say what you think the strategies are.. the worst you make FallenDomains look with how much you really don't know.

There are better ways, and faster ways that you obviously don't know about yet.

Oh and just in case you want to argue still:


TLD Zone File Access Program
Participants of the TLD Zone File Access Program may ftp the TLD Zone Files for the .com, .net, and .org top-level domains. Each file contains the active domain names in that particular top-level, and each is updated twice daily. To become a participant of the program, please submit an application. Normally within two business days you will receive an agreement along with further instructions.

How did I know you would make a crack just before I posted that :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

so sorry sucker

Ahh okay, so yer saying here there are faster ways than the master registry actually dropping the names from the zone files hmmm?

heheh okay brujahahah

sure, you can guess that netsol or one of the other hundreds of registrars will actually drop the names in a given period. LOL.

The ONLY "realtime" method IS by having zone file access.

as for making yourself look "incredibly stupid" refer back to post #727692, thats okay, keep sponging off those of us that do have access :thumbsup

Grow the fuck up and get a clue.

Yes, I've had the zonefile access for a long time. No, I'm not going to tell you what you don't know yet.

How stupid can you really be ? :1orglaugh

actually no you dont =)

#1 your not on the access list.
#2. if you had it you wouldnt be wasting time and other peoples money on old shit.


keep trying to bullshit tho, its amusing and upping FallenDomains memberships like mad :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


God, i LOVE people who dont know shit trying to sound like they do. Especially when I have no probs showing the facts and proof to back it up =)

1. I do have zonefile access.

2. Clickmojo is proof that your lists are old, outdated, and barely useful. Anyone, at any moment.. can take one look and see for themselves by the sheer number of fresh names that you haven't even listed yet.

So, prove I don't have access then. You said you have no probs showing proof and facts to back it up. Prove it.

Oh and for those interested, fallendomains has just struck deals with (currently) 16 registrars to get feeds of their adult names AS the changes get sent to the master registry. Look out for even more great things coming up =)

Didn't you used to post as Eric Geiler ?

I dont have to prove anything, the access lists by machine ip and class are freely available to anyone with access. So you show me where I am wrong (if you have access, cause you sure as hell aint on the list) :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


and yes, anyone can take a look and see instantly that you dont even half HALF the listings we do. Which is why you just opened up membership to your site again, boy people sure do love us compared to who they used to use. =)

FallenDomains features the "complete" list of expired dmains daily (20,000 to 80,000) as our standard list. we FEED many small places like you. You are not even competition. =/

I didnt come here to show people how little they get at clickmojo for the exorbitant price they pay there, I merely corrected a few things someone had said. It didnt even matter to me that it was you that said them, as the last time I said anything to you, I thanked you for the free trial comment you made which is working amazingly well. But of you wish to start a war so be it. You are unarmed. Period. I have shown the facts and you have shown all you can do is say "bullshit, i cant prove it, but bullshit"

Go away little boy.

You said you could prove it, and that you didn't have any problems proving I didn't have access.

Obviously, it was another lie that people are used to getting from you.

Eric was an employee at one of the resources as I remember.
Not a very good one apparently as he got shut down not long after?

Hardly me =)

But dont worry, I remember when you first came on the scene too.

please refresh my memory and the history of this thread by showing me where i said any such thing?

I said you are not on the list. I said you do not have access. period. No I am not about to jeapordize my own access by pasting a list which only authorized people have access to. Nice try tho =)

but you could easily prove me wrong by pasting only your listing on the list in the proper format as it is on the list. I would humbly apologize and shut up. Please do so, and quit spouting bullshit =)

as for me lying:
people can read documents about exactly all i have said here on the verisign site or numerous other places. They can SEE for themselves if I am wrong. They can also see you for the horseshit artist you are brujahahah.

:321GFY

Hey brujah, heres an easy one, if you are so knowledgeable about the expireds game, how come we have distinguished writers doing articles just for us, and we even write our own, and all you can seem to do is paste other peoples articles on your site? (some of which were written by people who write for us I might add).

This the best you can do?
Or just dont wanna say anything else that I can beat down with facts?

Folks,

In all honesty, http://clickmojo.com does have its usefulness and http://fallendomains.com has not encroached on the key features of his site. I do feel the price is a bit steep for it, however that is a personal opinion. Both sites used together properly could be the deciding factor in getting your perfect domain or a number of them. The fact is both sites have a different slant and you can find use in either or both.

I wrote the articles on my site, the ones for public and the ones for VIP. I don't need to have "distinguished" writers that are self-proclaimed guru's write for me. Nor do I paste other peoples articles on my site.

Rather than post more lies, why don't you backup everything you're saying ? What writers are you talking about ? Which articles do you claim I didn't write ?

Are you dense ? I quoted your words. Thats what you asked for.

ah, i didnt even look at the quote, just that you couldnt find one word to say :P


and brujah i pasted something directly from the verisign site that did in fact prove what i said about expired domains becoming available exactly 2 times daily =)

Or did you miss that tidbit =)

oh and yes, I do know that you did a search engine search for some of the words in that post and went and filled out an application 8 minutes later to get access to the zones =)

I am talking about all the articles that you post in the message forum of yers of course =)

Hey I found this great article..

I have seen the articles that you have on your site. The articles didnt even remotely shed any light on anything that wasnt known a few years before you got into the expireds game. The only ones that are remotely interesting are the ones you post in the message board, hence i used that as a referance.

What would you like to wager on it ? You're so positive I don't have access.. what are you willing to give up for proof that I've had it for a long time ?

Those aren't articles used as content. People post LINKS to news or viewpoints all the time. You made it sound as if the articles I write or use were written by other people that write for you.

Show me 1 article I linked to, that was written by one of your "staff writers".

My site isn't about telling other people how to start their own clickmojo site. Its about telling them how to use their domain names and how to use clickmojo to make money. I'll leave the domain technical articles to you.

I can't wait to see Brujah and nuclei duke it out on the next episode of Fox's Celebrity Webmaster Boxing! :Graucho

I've already got $100 on the winner...