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slapass 07-07-2006 08:43 AM

Non nude model goes nude - Good or Bad?
 
I was thinking that all the people who had joined before would rush back to see the goods. But I suppose it totally fucks with retention.

Example is next door nikki, if she now starts showing everything will the site get bigger or is it only temporary?

tony286 07-07-2006 08:44 AM

I think its probably temporary for the old fans , they get their fantasy finally. Then they will leave and she will get new ones.

Elle Sommers 07-07-2006 08:50 AM

I've heard a lot of people say they're really disappointed that she went topless on Springer.. especially since she wasn't looking, "top notch" and says it wasn't planned. Who goes on Springer's "Naked Rumble 4" spur of the moment? :disgust

scottybuzz 07-07-2006 08:51 AM

yeh good reasoning tony

slapass 07-07-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elle Sommers
I've heard a lot of people say they're really disappointed that she went topless on Springer.. especially since she wasn't looking, "top notch" and says it wasn't planned. Who goes on Springer's "Naked Rumble 4" spur of the moment? :disgust

Could be but sites live on those long term retention numbers. Are those folks talking? Would they even know at this point? They could just ignore it abd see if it blows over.

J. Falcon 07-07-2006 09:35 AM

Interesting thread.

Sams_gfy 07-07-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
I think its probably temporary for the old fans , they get their fantasy finally. Then they will leave and she will get new ones.

I think so

Sinstar 07-07-2006 09:40 AM

I have seen there are those members who will leave once they see the goods, but there are far more who will join a nude site rather than a NN site.

gooddomains 07-07-2006 09:41 AM

I'd hit her anyway

Fetish Gimp 07-07-2006 09:42 AM

This is probably's Phil Cash's finest hour. He (and the rest of his sites) get mainstream publicity, the boards are discussing it which increase his visibility, the obsessed nerds finally get their wish, and Springer makes bank. Blame it on a spur of the moment/never to be repeated event and ka-ching everybody wins.

DutchTeenCash 07-07-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp
This is probably's Phil Cash's finest hour. He (and the rest of his sites) get mainstream publicity, the boards are discussing it which increase his visibility, the obsessed nerds finally get their wish, and Springer makes bank. Blame it on a spur of the moment/never to be repeated event and ka-ching everybody wins.

exactly

happened before will happen again, scheduled or not THE way to increase sales.

Elle Sommers 07-07-2006 10:01 AM

The guy with the whistle is really annoying.

Dirty Dane 07-07-2006 10:10 AM

If they go nude, they suddenly are into the other 99% of the market :)
However, I don't think tits only would convert as a nude site. People wanna see pussy :upsidedow

DutchTeenCash 07-07-2006 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elle Sommers
The guy with the whistle is really annoying.

there was a whistle? :winkwink:

pocketkangaroo 07-07-2006 10:14 AM

It's not good for retention guys. Non-nude and nude members are two entirely separate breeds. Nude guys are looking for a quick beatoff session and move on. Non-Nude guys connect with the model in some way and retain like crazy. Just read their boards, it's not so much sexual as it is being able to communicate with a hot 20 year old.

I read that Next Door Nikki has 3700 active members! I remember promoting her and seeing that 8% of the sales stayed past 3 months. I think I still get paid on some sales I made a year ago with her.

So killing off that loyal following for the all nude surfer is not a good thing necessarily. She has to build up a new image, which is tough with a lot more competition in the nude space. She'll get a nice boost from it in the coming weeks, but that's it. Springer doesn't even mention NDN I believe and 99% of the world will just see her as some girl who went topless on the show.

Then again, it's a good time to start PROMOTING HER for a couple weeks in your blogs.

TheSenator 07-07-2006 10:19 AM

http://www.battsworld.net/boobs.gif

I think customers of nn sites are super weird and build an unrealistic loyality to that model but the retention is fucking amazing.

Showing off your boobs on national TV is cool but your members are your bread n butter.

She should do hardcore now.

The fantasy is over.

Elle Sommers 07-07-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
It's not good for retention guys. Non-nude and nude members are two entirely separate breeds. Nude guys are looking for a quick beatoff session and move on. Non-Nude guys connect with the model in some way and retain like crazy. Just read their boards, it's not so much sexual as it is being able to communicate with a hot 20 year old.

I read that Next Door Nikki has 3700 active members! I remember promoting her and seeing that 8% of the sales stayed past 3 months. I think I still get paid on some sales I made a year ago with her.

So killing off that loyal following for the all nude surfer is not a good thing necessarily. She has to build up a new image, which is tough with a lot more competition in the nude space. She'll get a nice boost from it in the coming weeks, but that's it. Springer doesn't even mention NDN I believe and 99% of the world will just see her as some girl who went topless on the show.

Then again, it's a good time to start PROMOTING HER for a couple weeks in your blogs.




You could start promoting me. ;)

Rock Solid 07-07-2006 10:22 AM

Those are some nice boobies.

Kimo 07-07-2006 10:25 AM

man NDN is fuckin smokin'

slapass 07-07-2006 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp
This is probably's Phil Cash's finest hour. He (and the rest of his sites) get mainstream publicity, the boards are discussing it which increase his visibility, the obsessed nerds finally get their wish, and Springer makes bank. Blame it on a spur of the moment/never to be repeated event and ka-ching everybody wins.

Would you tie it to the site then? She really has done almost topless. Just curious as to what options would look best right now. I agree with it is an opportunity for quick cash. Not always the best idea long term though.

Young 07-07-2006 10:32 AM

The illusion is broken

most of the guys are probaly pissed at her and thinking somewher up on the lines of "Why Nikki...I thought I knew you better than that...why"

fucking weirdos.

DutchTeenCash 07-07-2006 10:35 AM

Im sure pf will find a way to solve this and make a benefit of it for both him nikki and the affiliates - hes a great marketeer

TheSenator 07-07-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
The illusion is broken

most of the guys are probaly pissed at her and thinking somewher up on the lines of "Why Nikki...I thought I knew you better than that...why"

fucking weirdos.


Her customers must be a weird bunch of characters.
"Nikki, you are better then that."
"Nikki, I support you no matter what"
"Nikki, I know you are going through a tough time."

blah blah blah


Let see Nikki do hardcore.

Ace_luffy 07-07-2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator
http://www.battsworld.net/boobs.gif

I think customers of nn sites are super weird and build an unrealistic loyality to that model but the retention is fucking amazing.

Showing off your boobs on national TV is cool but your members are your bread n butter.

She should do hardcore now.

The fantasy is over.


yummy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Young 07-07-2006 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator
Her customers must be a weird bunch of characters.
"Nikki, you are better then that."
"Nikki, I support you no matter what"
"Nikki, I know you are going through a tough time."

blah blah blah


Let see Nikki do hardcore.

If you go to the Non nude board where she posts at you can see a bunch of guys freaking out and her trying to explain herself....its classic stuff.

BLish 07-07-2006 11:00 AM

what about when Brooke Skye started out as hardcore and then moved into softcore g/g only?

BLish 07-07-2006 11:00 AM

what about when Brooke Skye started out as hardcore and then moved into softcore g/g only?

slapass 07-07-2006 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLish
what about when Brooke Skye started out as hardcore and then moved into softcore g/g only?

She did not do it in the same site.
You can make any change but is it cost effective and would you better not to do it.

MaddCaz 07-07-2006 05:44 PM

big rush then trail off?


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