relationship between system admin and perl programmer
 

ok, in my day job, I program perl.
they just hired a new system admin, which won't let me run .cgi or .pl scripts before I tell him exactly what that script does.
after he approves, he gives runs the chmod command to enable me to run the file.
is this normal?

Sounds like you need a working environment to make any progress?? :winkwink:

Na.. all bollocks unless that is some genuine and valid reason for this stuff.

PS.. Hate to say it, but does your SysAdmin have a clue?? Surprising how many don't - even in large corps.

The reason is that he simply don't trust you. On the other hand, it seems like he's gonna do his job proprely so deal with it ;)

I am curious how you can install but not chmod your own file? He disabled the chmod command? LOL

i'm known for being the most trust worthy programmer in the company, no way he is choosing by that....besides isn't the system admin suppose to make it possible for the users of the servers? even if some of them are programmers?

Sounds reasonable to me, his job is security of your network and he's ensuring your scripts aren't a weak point.
WG

he probably has only ftp access which has chmod disabled.

no, I used to have putty access before this guy decides no one should have it.
so what basicaly happens: I send him the file via email, along with the purpose.
I edit and run it on my local computer first so it should be a one time upload when I email it.

that could be his reason.
But his thinking is flawed.
He doesn't trust the code the programmer coded yet he trusts what the programmer says :)

the logic of it is that as a system admin he knows what is more risky, knowing that file managment(moving, deleting etc.) can more of a risk than reading a text file.

Next time upload him a root kit, tell him its a dewerks accounting script

Then his job is what dewerks spelled backwards is and its back to normal.

Quit the job and work adult full time, if you're a decent programmer there tons of money just waiting to be made.

well, you'd be surprised how moving a file can be manipulated to delete a file or do anything else nasty.
Does he check the code for input validation and other stuff ?
I doubt.

they are just putting system so no interlupping with your works. Don't get wrong.

Bitch him out the first time and set a precident so it won't happen again... Having been both a sysadmin and a programmer (often at the same time) having full access sped everything up tremendously... I'd be hella pissed if I had to deal with a loser admin like that.

That's true, he should be reviewing the code before it goes onto a live server :)
WG

Inclined to agree fuzebox - it can be kinda impractical to work like that. Ain't got time to waste on shit.

Nice one!! :winkwink:

:1orglaugh

why isn't this the way it works with all the purchased hosts on the web? why isn't any of this shit happen on my webair account?