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daddynastee 07-02-2006 09:58 AM

Weird Google Shift
 
Has anyone else that pulls hearty traffic via Google noticed a drop in numbers? I'm talking about Google search traffic, not the pay by click Google ads. The last four days have been disasterous for us, and when I studied my referring traffic stats I noticed a huge portion of our normal Google traffic (that's been consistent for years) was gone.

Any Google experts here? Would appreciate your opinion.

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2006 10:17 AM

google updated , you didnt fare very well, it happens , learn from it and move on..

darksoul 07-02-2006 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
google updated , you didnt fare very well, it happens , learn from it and move on..

google updates everyday.

scottybuzz 07-02-2006 10:21 AM

thanks smokes

daddynastee 07-02-2006 10:25 AM

Of course I knew that they'd "danced" and updated -- but I was wondering if anyone was aware of other kinds of logarithm changes or policy shifts, etc.

jrap 07-02-2006 10:35 AM

Have you checked the actual SERPS? Are you no longer ranking for queries that you use to rank for? or is it just a drop in traffic?

If the latter is the case..think about it
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gooddomains 07-02-2006 11:27 AM

google is doing good for me since the update

Zuss 07-02-2006 11:29 AM

95% of my pages got dropped.

daddynastee 07-02-2006 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrap
Have you checked the actual SERPS? Are you no longer ranking for queries that you use to rank for? or is it just a drop in traffic?

What are SERPS? And to answer your question: both. Queries and drop in traffic. My site is based on a successful blog format, with actual articles and features and blog posts bringing in a good amount of traffic from Google. But as of the other day it's like Google put up some sort of filter that shut out search results to our random blog pages. Formerly those pages brought in a decent amount of random traffic.

It's incredibly frustrating and a bit frightening -- should this be their new format and filtering system. My site is eight years old, so it's not like I'm a newbie, crying about a recent Google dance. It's just that in the past the shift hasn't wrecked havoc so hard on my traffic.

jrap 07-02-2006 12:10 PM

Were you using any gray/blackhat techniques?

JD 07-02-2006 12:11 PM

I got your traffic :winkwink: The google dance was VERY nice to me :)

Fetish 07-02-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuss
95% of my pages got dropped.

Mine too. What are serps?

daddynastee 07-02-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrap
Were you using any gray/blackhat techniques?

What are those? Have no idea what you're talking about.:Oh crap

Fetish 07-02-2006 12:55 PM

help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

poondaddy 07-02-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish
help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

$5 submissions 07-02-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddynastee
Has anyone else that pulls hearty traffic via Google noticed a drop in numbers? I'm talking about Google search traffic, not the pay by click Google ads. The last four days have been disasterous for us, and when I studied my referring traffic stats I noticed a huge portion of our normal Google traffic (that's been consistent for years) was gone.

Any Google experts here? Would appreciate your opinion.

How much of a drop (percentagewise) did you experience?

fr0gman 07-02-2006 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul
google updates everyday.

I disagree. My experience shows that Google updates abut 4 times a year.

SuckOnThis 07-02-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman
I disagree. My experience shows that Google updates abut 4 times a year.

Depends on how popular the site is. Sites like CNN will get updated more than once a day. When I make changes to my site I usually notice the update in Google in about 4-5 days.

Linkster 07-02-2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish
Mine too. What are serps?

Serps - search engine rank placements (or some variety of that)

There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

daddynastee 07-02-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions
How much of a drop (percentagewise) did you experience?

Substantial. Enough to get drunk over and cry in my beer last night. I'd say about a third of my traffic evaporated. Brutal.

daddynastee 07-02-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

Linkster -- how do you track this information...? And can you explain anything about applied "filters." Thanks.

OzMan 07-02-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
Serps - search engine rank placements (or some variety of that)

There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

Since you work there can you get me a Google slimouse pleez? :thumbsup

goldrush 07-02-2006 05:20 PM

Google and the sales have been rocking last few days :) can't complain here, SEs are a zero sum game after all. Some win some lose and it all evens out at the end of the day.

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2006 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul
google updates everyday.

serps dont drop by leaps and bounds everyday , they shift around a bit , but when your traffic drops by a noticeable amount its usually a ban or an update. and indeed there has been an update/algo change.

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2006 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish
Mine too. What are serps?

search engine ranking position..

Bill8 07-02-2006 06:32 PM

search engine results page

fr0gman 07-02-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Depends on how popular the site is. Sites like CNN will get updated more than once a day. When I make changes to my site I usually notice the update in Google in about 4-5 days.

I think that we are confusing how often Google spiders a site with THE Google updates. Google spiders some of my sites (most actually) several times a day. Google does not do a system-wide update but for a few times a year.

Fetish 07-02-2006 10:29 PM

Is there a way to type in your url and see under what keywords and what ranking under those keywords you are at?

TheJimmy 07-02-2006 10:39 PM

Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

:thumbsup :pimp

KRL 07-02-2006 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy
Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

:thumbsup :pimp

Yep, googlebot been like termites gone wild. :1orglaugh

TheJimmy 07-02-2006 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
Yep, googlebot been like termites gone wild. :1orglaugh

LOL I like that 'termites gone wild'

I might have to steal that one, our friend SPeRMiNaToR might opt for "Centipedes gone wild" though.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Manowar 07-02-2006 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy
Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

:thumbsup :pimp

same here!

X37375787 07-03-2006 12:03 AM

Are the SERPs still shifting around or has it settled down already?

TheJimmy 07-03-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox
Are the SERPs still shifting around or has it settled down already?

I don't think the dust has settled yet maing...

:pimp

X37375787 07-03-2006 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy
I don't think the dust has settled yet maing...

:pimp


My positions have been bouncing all over the place in the past few days. I wouldn't mind if the SERPs settled in their current position... :upsidedow

joachim kessef 07-03-2006 12:39 AM

the same happened to me i go adware campaign nothing show up i heard hear like it show up right now but nothing work we wrotte them the didnt reply and the charge me i dont know what to do
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$5 submissions 07-03-2006 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddynastee
Substantial. Enough to get drunk over and cry in my beer last night. I'd say about a third of my traffic evaporated. Brutal.

Ouch. Hang in there for a few more days. Updates are sometimes unstable for a few days. Once it's settled down you'll see where you really stand re SERPS.

kuthi123 07-03-2006 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish
help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...e+Search&meta=

v4 media 07-03-2006 01:19 AM

A few people have taken big drops, the main reasons with regard to this update seem to be.

Linking to banned domains, buying/trading links on non related sites, having the same blog articles as 20,000 other people, too many out links in relation to the amount of text on the page.

I could go on.. but I wont.. hehe

flashbang 07-03-2006 01:23 AM

up 63% here.... back to where i belong, lot of scammer sites got above me since jagger, good to see that stuff is dissappearing

Linkster 07-03-2006 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddynastee
Linkster -- how do you track this information...? And can you explain anything about applied "filters." Thanks.

I track it using a few programs I had written 4 years ago as well as just simple things like picking a phrase that I know I will usually rank pretty well with and watching the number of results Google reports when you type in the search - one that Ive used for years is the word "sex" (although they censor that search in the US/ English results now). For years the results showed 70 million results - then last year they started their "BD" changeover and it jumped to 300 mill results - two weeks ago it went to 3 billion results - and now its back down to 400 mill

The filters can be seen when they are applied by adding &filter=0 to the end of the resulting url when you type in a search - this will show all the sites being filtered out for dupe/ban etc
There are 100s of filters in the algorithm that can be "tweaked" based on incoming links, authority of the sites, titles, descriptions and on and on.
Recently there have been some people that think there were also domain age filters, ownership dupe filters and many others that havent been proven but are good guesses based on Googles recent acceptance as a qualified registrar


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