(Ray Guhn And Others) Those Boys In Florida Are Fucked
 

I'm just calling this one like I see it....
I'll just put it like this...

The authorities (if you wanna call them that) have set this thing up like they were after a drug ring (I know all about those :winkwink:)

They've got a confidential informant (snitch) who basically helped them build their whole case this snitch has revealed that she was paid to have sex at a private party prior to being filmed...

I would hate to be these guys right now...

Blame Borsellino and Falcone ...

what's the big deal to be paid for sex

Its illegal.

Why are your posts always so vague? It's like your just trying to boost your postcount...or you're some kind of bot/human hybrid.

I think everyone knows what is wrong with paying for sex, it's called prostitution, and I'm pretty sure that EVERYONE knows that it is illegal nationwide. (with the exception of parts of NV or whatever)

I believe the problem here is the fact that they were producing content in that area, which is illegal, I do believe. In fact I think I read that the entire US is in a grey area as far as the production of adult content goes...except CA, parts of it (or perhaps all) of Cali are OK to produce in. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

I hear a lot of sponsors produce in FL though, and I'm keepin my fingers crossed that they don't have the same problems as Ray Guhn...:Oh crap

Lastly, I don't have the link, but there is another thread on this that I suggest EVERYONE read, as it clears up several issues dealing with the legality of producing adult material.

later
c-lo

Less said the better till Ray or any of the others care to divulge whatever they may care to divulge - eventually :winkwink:

Same as all cases - there are peripheral things, which may or may not be used later - and depending, can be open to serving a defense well.

Smell till they finish their investigation and arrest any other folks and the dust settles, it really means not a lot right now. Once the hype of the moment subsides - it's a new day and time to attack :)

if the rat has charges pending her credibility will go out the window

isnt that entrapment? so its now ok to break the law to get others to do it, and then arrest them?

i fucking hate that crap.

It looks like this case will be a real test bedfor FLA.

hate to be them

It is since 9/11 ... Did that for the alleged " 7 terrorists " ....

I thought the panhandle of florida has always had problems. The girls gone wild guy ran into problems up there.

I'm still amazed that a lot of you guys don't see what's happening yet.....but let me
tell you this......If you're in the US peddling porn....you're basically fucked
but you don't seem to grasp this yet.

With all the stuff that's going on and is about to go on...you're getting fucked
in the ass big time.....and when election day comes you all seem to bend over
and point your asses towards the sky asking if you can please get some more :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ServerGenuis, you think this is funny? You thing its funny that americans are getting screwed when it comes to this business? Im sure a LOT of americans are gonna love doing business with you, since you seem to care about them so much.

Looks like they were somewhat careless.

Where did I say that I think this is funny? Apart from that people do business
with me because of my skills and because I can be a value added to my clients
their business.....not because I'm Mr. Nice Guy :2 cents:

sounds to me like the assholes just don't know how to control their business... you can only expect shit like that to happen when your letting your models fuck whoever

Welcome to the adult entraintement business budy ;)

Wich sites got busted exactly ? They are talking about 5k sales a moths ... that's not a small program there.

fuck snitches, fucking cowards they are!

everyone wear your stop snitchin' tshirts today!

doesnt bangbros shoot in FL?

That's what I hear...

Oh, and ServerGenious, I think DirtyJ got the idea of you thinking it was funny because of the ":1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh " you posted.

Everyone has their reasons for living in the US, even though the laws are becoming more and more strict towards adult on a daily basis. Perhaps it's not convenient for everyone to pack up and move to Europe or Canada or whatever.

And it's not like we all brought this on ourselves. I would hope that most adult webmasters didnt vote for Bush & his "all porn is ch*ld porn / rape" movement. Fact is, there are more old die-hard right wing christian hypocrites voting than there are adult webmasters.

I don't believe we're blind to the fact of what is happening, we just aren't organized enough to fight it. And when you're often given the lesser of two evils to vote for, what the fuck are we supposed to do? :Oh crap

Just a rant,
c-lo

As well as a lot more.. loads of porn is shot in South Florida.
Bit differnet than the North. The only place you can legally shoot porn is LA county.

Yeah I hear what you're saying....but then again most of these frightning
new laws concern almost every individual in your country....not just adult
webmasters. I understand that just moving is an option for everybody aswell.
I hope that people start to realise soon what's going on with the most
valuable right they posses.....FREEDOM and make a wise decision at the
next elections.

Don't get me wrong I have nothing against Americans in general your country
has a lot of good things. It just amazes me that with all that is happening
most people either don't realise the consequences of it or they are just
accepting it.....it's like watching a movie really. Soon a great movie comes
out.....it's called America: From freedom to Fascism. I'm not claiming that
everything in it is 100% true but it does has some great angles and it perfectly describes what's happening and what will be the consequences.


:2 cents:

I believe there was a cover story about them on a local south florida news channel about a little over a year ago. bringing to lite the whole south florida porn connection. It was enough to rattle Jeb Bush's chain. I remember about 2 years ago Photogregg had a similar problem in South Florida when his home was raided by the cops. Not as serious as poor Ray Guhn.

Mike South wrote about it on his site-


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Ray Operates the site cumonherface.com

This is a State Charge not a federal charge and the case is going to hinge largely on whether or not hiring people to perform in adult films and for adult websites is prostitution. In California this was already decided in Los Angeles V. Freeman, and that is why shooting in L.A. is legal. In other areas it is untested.

The Racketeering charges where no doubt levelled in order to seize Ray's assets without due process.

These charges are state charges for Florida, If Ray looses this could very well be bad for anyone shooting in Florida, including all the icy porn sites, bang brothers, milfhunters etc.


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The thing to understand here is that technically speaking its only LEGAL to shoot in LA with a porn permit.




http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=232071

in summary:

3. You can legally hire people to perform sex acts in photographs and motion pictures throughout the United States.

My clients and other persons seeking to enter the adult entertainment business are usually very surprised when I tell them that California is the only state in which persons can be legally hired to perform sexual acts for the purpose of creating photographic or motion picture works. They?re shocked to learn that the same explicit materials sold legally in ?liberal? locations like New York, Chicago, and Las Vegas cannot be produced in those cities without the risk of prosecution for violation of state pandering or prostitution laws.

Under the laws of every state, the payment of money or other consideration for such sexual performances constitutes prostitution. Depending on the circumstances, the procurement of persons to perform in such works will constitute the crimes of pimping or pandering. So how are thousands of porn shoots legally conducted in California each year? The answer can be found in one case, People v. Freeman, 250 Cal.Rptr. 589 (Cal. 1988).

In the Freeman case, the California Supreme Court held that ?in order to constitute prostitution, the money or other consideration must be paid for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification.? 250 Cal.Rptr., at 600. The court characterized the payments made to the performers as ?acting fees? and held that ?there is no evidence that [ Freeman] paid the acting fees for the purposes of sexual arousal or gratification, his own or the actors.'? Id. Thus, the court held that Freeman ?did not engage in either the requisite conduct nor did he have the requisite [intent] or purpose to establish procurement for purposes of prostitution.? Ibid. In fact, the court said that ?even if [Freeman?s] conduct could somehow be found to come within the definition of ?prostitution? literally, the application of the pandering statute to the hiring of actors to perform in the production of a non-obscene motion picture would impinge unconstitutionally upon First Amendment values.? Ibid.

The California Supreme Court?s ruling paved the way for today?s multibillion-dollar international adult video industry centered in the San Fernando Valley. Unfortunately, so far no other state?s high court has adopted the California Supreme Court?s sound reasoning and the Freeman case is only legally binding law in California.

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So I hope this will pave the way for it to be legal to officially shoot in Florida....the bible thumpers will get the message on move on. Remember they have had negative clips on local news and in the Alternative weekly papers about South Florida content shooters...BangBros mostly and they have never been gone after. Just a warning if you not filming in Tampa or Miami consider yourself on notice.

Mind your own business Platinum Scammer...

Ray and the boys will be fine, they are well funded and have probably the best legal money can buy. Just worry about the next paycheque and your hand to mouth pityful racist existence.

DH

Producing porn in Florida is iffy, but seemingly safe in south Florida (Dade and Broward counties), but producing porn in Escambia county where it's damn near illegal to spit in public, was just plain dumb.

p.s. If you want to hear an attorney's opinion on this topic, don't miss our special guest, Chad Belville, tomorrow, Thursday, 6/29 at 3:00pm ET on Porn Site Chat.

You`re wrong. Prostitution is legal nationwide

It's a way for ordinary people to make good, easy money. The gov. made it illegal to keep the have-nots in check.

I have some bad news for ya-

http://www.bunnyranch.com/index1.html


I hate to do it......But I couldn?t resist.......yeah you can get laid legally at brothels in NV.

when i was in pensacola. i was eating at a restaurant, alone. and i was listening to the table next to mines conversation(call me a bastard, whatever) but it was rather interesting it was a bunch of cops. they were talking about beating 'hahahahahahas' and shit. they sure seemed to get a kick out of beating people in that town. they were talking about how they planned to beat a guy to death, but he passed out and went limp first. made me scared to ever go back there.

fuck north florida. fuck the cops and authorities there!

It would be entrapment if she coaxed them into paying her.. then ratting them out..

If she was just present and they approached her.. no..

Or that's how it used to be.. who knows anymore with the cops making up laws as they go..