Flag burning is finally gonna be banned!
 

(06-27) 04:00 PDT Washington -- A close vote is expected in the Senate this week as it takes up a long-debated constitutional amendment to ban desecration of the U.S. flag, legislation that in this congressional election year is one of three Republican-backed bills intended to protect patriotic symbols and rally the party's conservative base.

Also up for consideration in the House this week is the Freedom to Display the Flag Act, which would bar condominiums or other homeowner associations from restricting the size or placement of residents' flags. It's expected to pass today.

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And the first thing im gonna do when it passes is BURN ONE

It's not banned until 38 states pass it over 7 years.

This is bullshit. I guess the 1st Amendment means nothing.

I especially like the one that says you can hang a 500 foot flag in your front yard.

It will not be banned. The only countries that ban flag burning currently are: China, Cuba and Iraq. I don't think we want to part of that group and if someone wants to burn the flag let them. Just makes them look stupid!

If it passes the house and 38 state legislators pass it within 7 years it will be a Consitutional admendment. You know I'm quite posiitvie that flag burning existed in the late 1700's. So if the founding fathers wanted it banned they would have said so.

It's vote-getting. Feds often work on appearances with something that is under control by each state anyway. Like marriage etc.

Problem voting against it because you think it's unneeded wont matter in a political ad. They'll show your face with some sad music and a good announcer saying how you voted against protecting our flag, lol.

Politics, blah.

Awesome stuff - and a great diversion.

Got to add "flag burning" to the list with abortion, gay marriage ad nausea. Has anyone noticed eg.. the economy? Or is that up for discussion in August 2012?

that's stupid. Let them burn the flag if they want to, who cares? We have a ton more!

Although I would never ever think about burning the US flag and would get really pissed if I saw someone doing it I do NOT want to see a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning.

oops - IRAN is the third NOT Iraq. :upsidedow

this is getting more and more crazy

lol yep, they want the flag burning voted on now, but they want to discuss border security and immigration in a comittee and vote AFTER the november elections.

Politics, blah.

Actually. I had to look this one up because I really didnt believe it.... low and behold. YOU ARE WRONG!

As per, Wikipedia. Which i think most would deem to be a reliable source...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration

It is also illegal in Finland. I would venture to imagine if I looked further I could find more. Considering I found one the first place I looked.

Our government loves keeping company like that.

Take a look at the list of countries that still have the death penalty.


Then take a look at the list of countries without universal health care as a right of citizenship. Us along with South Africa are the only developed nations without it. That's what we rank 20 something in the world in infant mortality despide being the world's wealthiest nation.

Thinking about such things makes me sick. Easier to watch TV and forget about how fucked up this country treats it's lower class. I wonder what's on.

It's just a flag...lol I guess the US government has no serious issues to solve, so they acre about these useless things...lol

That's funny shit because burning the flag is EXACTLY how you are supposed to dispose of our flag when they get old.

Style over substance.
Bunch of idiots wasting time on shit like this instead of figuring out how to get us out of Iraq or balancing the budget or fixing our immigration policies or saving social security and medicare.

That stuff isn't important, what's really important is stopping flag burning and making sure boys aren't allowed to kiss.

Take the Philippines off the death penalty countires. They just recently banned it.

:P Crazy. I should be able to burn the flag. I should be able to kick someone's ass if they burn my flag.

I think ass-kicking should be a protected form of speech.

Thank you this is all smoke screen shit to get the sheep to come out to vote. These are knee jerk type of subjects that get the uneducated right out to vote. People seem to forget if you dont get offended now and then you truly dont live in a free country.

Yes, but in a specified manner and with ceremony...

True... China is pumping them out like rabbits ... :1orglaugh

Actually there will be specific exceptions for the president since he is so good at desecrating the flag:
http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/072803.asp

Did you read the wikipedia article or just see a bunch of countries listed and assume I was wrong. Most of those countries listed, if you read it, ban the burning of foreign national flags but not their own. Finland, yes, add them to the list of China, Cuba and Iran. Oh, to dispose of a worn out Finnish flag you should burn it or cut it to pieces small enough not to be recognizable as parts of the flag. :winkwink:

I'd be more worried about www.spp.gov than flag burning.

They'll win again... don't worry

Within 14 days of this country passing a consitutional amendment barring the burning of the flag, all of you will be able to tune into CNN and see me on the steps of the Supreme Court... having an American Flag BBQ.

Of course, that assumes I havent moved out of this sorry excuse for a nation by then.

Bring a boat

So i guess Larry Flynt can't use it as a diaper anymore :1orglaugh

48 states had the ban before the supreme court overturned it in 1989. if thats its only obstacle then it will become an amendment.

You have to be careful with Wikipedia... the nice thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it. And the problem with Wikipedia is... that anyone can edit it.

We'd also be in the historical company of Nazi Germany. An elite list indeed.

flag burning stimulates the economy, it's even good for big oil.

have to buy:
flag
gasoline ($3 a gallon)
matches

It's just a vote getter and draws attention away from real issues like the war and immigration. It can pass all they want but it will never get by the supreme court.

No, not yet, but we're going that direction apparently.

If we keep electing the Taliban to run our country we'll be there in no time.

:pimp

Although I hate the thought of some jackass burning the flag seeing the right to do it taken away is a bit unnerving.

It's a very specific constitutional amendment, designed precisely to get around the thorny and pesky "freedom" issue that the "activist" Supreme Court so often considers in it's decisions. Is there even a process for the Supreme Court to strike down a specific constitutional amendment like this one if it contradicts a more general amendment like the First? Would that lead to a constitutional crisis perhaps? Surely the Supreme Court would not be so bold as to defy Congress and strike down or ignore a brand new and very specific constitutional amendment?

I like to look at the positive side of things... It's nice to live in a historically significant time, to be eyewitnesses to the decline of the great American empire is a bit of an honour, in a tragic sort of way.

No, of course the Supreme Court will not strike down or ignore the amendment. They are all in this together. What needs to happen is the PEOPLE need to ignore congress AND the court and say enough is enough.

Yeah, you put it well. Its an honor to watch what was at once and still could be a great country implode.

For an amendment, don't they need like 2/3rds vote? I just don't see how they could drum up enough democrats to do this.

Just saw the representatives of the group that is pushing this in congress - flag burning has risen 33% this year - omg - from 3 cases last year in the US to 4 this year :)

That means that congress is going to spend 4 days on debate and voting of these bill amendments (just saw on Cspan they are voting on one of them and its dying) - one day for each flag that is burned - gee - and they just voted themselves a payraise????

Welcome to the new world order. :winkwink:

The only reason why people keep burning the US flag is because the americans
care about it....They know you all get your panties in the clinch whenever you
see your flag being burnt. I never see people burn English, Dutch, German flags.
It happened maybe once or twice and when they realised that nobody cared
they just didn't bother about it anymore.....:2 cents:

The idiots from Congress make the whole world laugh at USA
over and over again

As the world cup goes on and England supporters have flags on their cars ...

England flags are being burned in Scotland .....WTF ???

The republicans wanted it to fail so they could point fingers at the Democrats calling them flag burners. thats all folks.

Exactly.

You are right .

All the latest propose laws , amendments and other legal horseshit have been phrased and put forward to embarass the democrats .. and it is easy to do ...

Now, the dems want to start embracing the cults and religions, showing that they also are religious ... they have no fucking balls ...

The true strength of a counties confidence in who it is, is the ability to take critisism.

Burning your flag is the least of your worries.

We would be upset if the Scottish were not burning the Union Jack. :1orglaugh

flag burning is crackers but if someone wants to do it let them